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Daniel Child | 1 Apr 2009 01:54

issues importing Unicode data

Hi All,

I'm working on Mac OS X and need to manipulate some Chinese and  
Japanese data. Using 4D SQL I'm having no luck importing Unicode from  
a text file. Or at least, I'm not having any luck.

I prepared some basic tab-delimited data in UTF-8, and also tried  
UTF-16. Neither worked. If I type Chinese or Japanese data into a 4D  
app and export, and reimport, it works fine. Whatever I do, the  
characters come out garbled.

Is there some secret to this? Any suggestions on what text application  
I could use to prep the data? I used SubEthaEdit simply because it  
gives you the option to easily switch between different versions of  
Unicode.

I am coming back to 4D after many years away from it. Maybe I am  
missing something obvious in the new version? Any help would be really  
appreciated.

Thanks.

Daniel
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Michael Ashton | 1 Apr 2009 02:45
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V11 Unlimited Desktop

Does a "stand-alone" application built with V11 Developer Professional with
4D Unlimited Desktop display the "Powered by 4D" logo when shutting down --
as the 2004 "Sponsored" version does?
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Cannon Smith | 1 Apr 2009 03:02

RE: V11 Unlimited Desktop

I was led to believe that it didn't display this when I purchased it, but it does display the message. If I am
missing a setting that someone knows about, I'd be happy to hear about it.

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Michael Ashton wrote:

> Does a "stand-alone" application built with V11 Developer Professional with
> 4D Unlimited Desktop display the "Powered by 4D" logo when shutting down --
> as the 2004 "Sponsored" version does?
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Walt Nelson | 1 Apr 2009 03:35
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Re: V11 Unlimited Desktop

Michael,

I'm curious: is it a bad thing when an application says "Powered by 4D"?

I would make a case that it is a good thing, not a bad thing. 

Piggy-backing off the reputation of an established brand is a time-honored marketing technique; in fact,
the entire Franchising industry is based on it: McDonalds, Burger King, Starbucks, and hundreds of
others. 

I have been a sales trainer for more than 30 years, in addition to my 4D activities the past 20 years. We in
sales know the power of brand piggy-backing (e.g. My real estate training school is affiliated with a
Century 21 franchise). 

4D developers are technoids, not salespeople, so they tend to be unaware of this basic marketing technique
(brand piggy-backing),  They want to hide their 4D affiliation, instead of thinking of ways to gain a
marketing advantage from it.

Just as a suggestion, Michael: start thinking of ways you can piggy-back off the 4D branding, rather than
trying to hide it. 

HTH,

Walt Nelson - Guam
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MIYAKO | 1 Apr 2009 03:55

Re: V11 Unlimited Desktop

Hello,

please be reminded that 4D offers both options,

if you are comfortable with having the 4D brand associated with you app,
take advantage of the new "Powered by 4D" logo.

http://www.4d.com/corporate/logos/logos.html

to suppress the sponsored message,
consider the OEM Desktop which doesn't display the logo on exit.

http://www.4d.com/products/Dep-comparative.html

miyako

On 2009/04/01, at 10:35, Walt Nelson wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I'm curious: is it a bad thing when an application says "Powered by  
> 4D"?
>
> I would make a case that it is a good thing, not a bad thing.
>
> Piggy-backing off the reputation of an established brand is a time- 
> honored marketing technique; in fact, the entire Franchising  
> industry is based on it: McDonalds, Burger King, Starbucks, and  
> hundreds of others.
>
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Michael Ashton | 1 Apr 2009 04:10
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Re: V11 Unlimited Desktop

Thanks for the responses. I don't have a  problem with it. I just wanted to
be sure that the resulting application was not a "demo".

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Jeremy Roussak | 1 Apr 2009 10:18
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Re: RE :Solid State Drives for 4D Development?

Any concerns over the maximum number of read/write cycles for the  
memory? It's a matter that's been raised and discussed on a  
photographic site I visit.

Jeremy

On 31 Mar 2009, at 20:48, Patrick Abrams wrote:

> To:
>
> Solid state drive is a very nice toy
>
> I use the intel x25 ssd , and it is very fast
>
> 10 times in random read and twice the speed in random write compared  
> to macbook HD

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Tony Oppenheim | 1 Apr 2009 11:27

4D v11.3 install question

Folks,

I just installed 4D Developer Pro v11.3 on my Mac Pro. I haven't  
previously installed any earlier version of 4D v11 on this machine.

When the installer asked me about the install location it indicated it  
would create a folder named 4D in the Applications folder on my  
Macintosh HD. I took this to mean it would install 4D in the  
Applications folder located in the root directory of my hard drive  
(where most applications live).

After the install I found that it had created an Applications folder  
inside my User folder and then created a 4D folder in that new  
Application folder instead of installing 4D in the common Application  
folder that already existed at the root level of my drive.

I prefer to have my apps in the main Applications folder...

Do I need to uninstall and reinstall, or can I just drag the 4D folder  
to the common Applications folder?

Or is there some reason that 4D v11 has to live in the User/ 
Applications folder?

Thanks!

Tony

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David Hudson | 1 Apr 2009 11:54
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Re: 4D v11.3 install question

Hello Tony,

I think you will find that it is also in the root level - but since it  
is available to all users you also see sit in your own user's list of  
applications.

So really there is nothing to move - in any case my own policy is to  
*never* change default installation locations or move them afterwards,  
it only causes trouble down the line with updates and so on.

I too have just installed v.11 on a new Mac - it's as you describe.  
Don't re-install, don't move.

Regards

David Hudson

East Yorkshire, UK

On 1 Apr 2009, at 10:27, Tony Oppenheim wrote:

> After the install I found that it had created an Applications folder  
> inside my User folder and then created a 4D folder in that new  
> Application folder instead of installing 4D in the common  
> Application folder that already existed at the root level of my drive.
>
> I prefer to have my apps in the main Applications folder...
>
> Do I need to uninstall and reinstall, or can I just drag the 4D  
> folder to the common Applications folder?
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David Hudson | 1 Apr 2009 14:03
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Print label will not rotate in v.11

Hello,

Database converted from 6.6.4 to v.11, running on Mac, Epson printer  
for which the current driver is already embedded in the latest Mac OS,  
according to Epson.

The label editor (wizard? I forget what it's called, been a long time)  
is called from a method. User chooses label file to use, sets the  
number of labels. the format is vertical (portrait) with 12 labels on  
an A4 sheet. This has worked perfectly for several years on both Mac  
(10.3.9) and Win XP.

In my new installation on v.11 with OS 10.5.6 (same printer) the  
labels print rotated (landscape) and there is no way that I get them  
to print in the correct orientation - which displays vertically in the  
layout editor. Weirdly, the printer dialogues display a vertical  
option but do not display a landscape option (which otherwise I would  
try given that the selected vertical option does the opposite). There  
is also a glitch with the sizing option in the printer's settings  
dialogues - shows something like 17,000 per cent and gives an error  
warning if I amend it, saying that only values between 1 and 10,000  
percent are allowed. The printer dialogues behave normally elsewhere  
in 4D and in other applications on this computer.

I have tried 4D's SET PRINT OPTION (which has an orientation  
parameter) before the PRINT LABEL call but this has no effect.

Has anyone else encountered this problem in v.11 - any fixes? Or am I  
going to have to ditch a perfectly good printer - given that there is  
currenly no different driver available for the printer - just because
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