Perkins, Bradley D | 23 Oct 01:03 2014

Re: Maintenance "Upgrade" Question

Actually we're not changing platforms. The server is and will stay on
Windows. The network it is on doesn't allow outbound http(s), therefore
could not do automatic activation or access store.4d.com from there.

I was asking if interacting with store.4d.com from a Mac to do a web-based
Windows registration was risky? Back when the current licensing scheme was
new I somehow managed to register and license a server for the wrong
platform. It took a few days to get that straightened out.

I got access to a user's Windows box and did the web-based registration
from there. I got my licenses.

Also, it was possible to install and verify the licenses on v14 while v11
was serving on the same box. Of course I won't serve from both v11 and v14
at the same time.

Thanks,

Brad

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>Subject: Re: Maintenance "Upgrade" Question
>Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:44:45 -0400
>From: Bill Weale <bill.weale@...>
>To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@...>
>Message-ID: <44D6E338-1907-4C5C-A2B1-74D0EAB01770@...>
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Bill Desjardin | 23 Oct 00:31 2014

Records in Table

All,

Are there circumstances where Records in Table can return zero, even when there is a record in the table?  The
data base is Client/Server version 12.5.  There is a single record in a table to store configuration data. 
There is startup code that checks for Records in Table equal to zero, and adds a record if there is not
already one present.  The code has been stable for years.  Over the last year or so there have been three cases
of a second record being added.  The latest thinking is that a second record may be added if the original
record is being updated in a transaction.  Can Records in Table return erroneous results if there is a
record modification going on inside of a transaction?

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Perkins, Bradley D | 22 Oct 22:29 2014

Re: Maintenance "Upgrade" Question


>The new server will launch and tell it it can not publish. please speak
>to your sales rep to find out best way of doing this as prod machine can
>not get to 4D to license
>
>Regards
>
>Chuck
>
>On Oct 22, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Perkins, Bradley D wrote:
>
>>Once I get new license. Is it possible for me to launch v14 to install
>>them, while the V11 is still running? The V11 server would be running on
>>the same ports.

I had sent a message to our partner rep earlier and asked here when I
didn't hear back.  She responded and says I can do deferred activation.
Then there is a process where I sneaker some files from the no-http server
to another machine and submit to 4D and receive my licenses.

What I was actually asking about earlier was how to get the V14 product
keys from our existing under-maintenance V11 server licenses.
I still haven't heard back if I can do this from a Mac for a Windows
Server (I vaguely recall that doing something similar was what caused
problems in the past).

Thanks,

Brad

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Kirk Brooks | 22 Oct 22:09 2014
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What does Form Event 0 mean?

I am tracing through some code that involves communication with a subform
and notice I'm seeing Form Event = 0. It seems to be coming from the
subform.

I don't think I've ever encountered this before and I'm not sure is this a
Yosemite artifact or what.

Anyone have any info?  13.5

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Perkins, Bradley D | 22 Oct 20:20 2014

Maintenance "Upgrade" Question

I am going to be upgrading a v11 Server to v14 this weekend.

We have licenses under "Maintenance" but I haven't upgraded them yet.
The server is on a heavily fire-walled network and HTTP(s) traffic is
blocked, therefore I can't get to store.4d.com.

I'm asking the following because I botched an upgrade in the past and it
took a few days to straighten out. With the Summit next week I want to get
the licenses installed and verified ASAP.

1. Since I can't access store.4d.com from the server, will there be a
problem if I do the license upgrade from another machine? (I would think
not).
2. These are Windows licenses. Can I do the upgrade from my Mac (I don't
have quick access to real Windows Machine).

Once I get new license. Is it possible for me to launch v14 to install
them, while the V11 is still running? The V11 server would be running on
the same ports.

Thanks,

Brad Perkins

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Chip Scheide | 22 Oct 14:00 2014

Scope of Sets v12+

Can someone confirm, or correct me, please.

Scope of sets:
Local sets ($setname) - have scope through out the process they are created, and do NOT have a corresponding
set on the server.
Process sets (setname) - have scope also through out the process they are created in but ALSO have a
corresponding set on the server, and both sets exist for each instance of the process, on each client.
Interprocess sets (<>setname) - have scope throughout the client processes, and have a corresponding set
on the server which has scope through out the server processes. 1 instance of the set for each client, one
only(?) instance on server, for each client(?). 

Thanks 
Chip
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Ortwin Zillgen | 22 Oct 13:28 2014
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Re: Set of icons

> It's always hard to find great sets of icons.

I like the noun-project for that purpose: SVG-icons!
<http://thenounproject.com>

okay, most of them have to be reformatted as PNG, to be used in 4D-buttons

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Jérôme Pupier | 22 Oct 12:21 2014
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Set of icons

Hi all,

It's always hard to find great sets of icons.
Google has released a set for new Lolipop Android version.

I think it can be a nice resource for all developpers, including 4D devs.

https://github.com/google/material-design-icons
(preview: http://google.github.io/material-design-icons/)

Another I often use: Fatcow icons
http://www.fatcow.com/free-icons

Hope it will help you making nice interfaces..

Amicalement,

Jérôme

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Douglas von Roeder | 22 Oct 01:51 2014
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Fwd: Message to the NUG

Aloha, all.

Jack des Bouillons is able to read NUG messages but is not able to post
messages so he's asked post this message for him.

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Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:29 PM
Subject: Message to the NUG
To: Douglas von Roeder <dvonroeder@...>

My old MacBook Pro, running 10.6.8, died, and I got a brand new machine
running 10.9.4.

I retrieved all my data using Time Machine.  That worked well, except that
now I cannot get into design mode using 13.4 nor 14.2.  I can launch my
apps, but then I get a message saying my license does not allow access to
design.

I have a feeling the the restore process put the 4D licenses in the wrong
place.  Where should they reside on a Mac running 10.9.4?

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Chip Scheide | 21 Oct 22:22 2014

Re: v2004 - how to get 4D write templates extracted?

Thanks Jim,
That will help

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:06:08 -0400, Jim Hays wrote:
> You can loop through the records and look for any embedded expressions.
> If there are expressions, then maybe they are "templates", if no
> expressions, they are already "computed", and represent data.  The computed
> ones make more sense to export via printing to PDF or similar.
> 
> If they have expressions, you would probably need to see the existing code
> to know how to compute them.
> 
> Here are some commands to use to find out if the stored items have
> expressions
> 
> $WR_area_i:=WR New offscreen area
> WR PICTURE TO AREA ($WR_area_i;[Table]PictField)
> 
> $refs_i:=WR Get doc property ($WR_area_i;wr view references )` might be
> helpful
> 
> $numRefs_i:=WR Count ( $WR_area_i; wr nb objects) ` get the number of
> references
> 
> WR DELETE OFFSCREEN AREA($WR_area_i)
> 
> 
> And other than that, you can find commands for printing the area, saving as
> RTF, etc.
> 
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Chip Scheide | 21 Oct 18:58 2014

v2004 - how to get 4D write templates extracted?

I have not worked with 4D write in 20 years... so....
I need some guidance please.

I am looking at a database with about 20,000 records in one table.
In this table there is a picture field - it contains document 
templates(?) that are 4D write documents.

First - is there any reason to extract them? in other words even if I 
extract the templates can they be used somewhere else (Word for 
example)?

Second - how do I extract them? programatically.

Thanks 
Chip
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