Don Stewart | 2 Jan 21:27 2009

#haskell IRC channel reaches 600 users


A small announcement :)

7 years after its inception, under the guiding hand of Shae Erisson (aka
shapr), the #haskell IRC channel[1] on freenode has reached 600
concurrent users! It's now in the top 3 language channels by size.

To chart the growth, we can note that the channel was founded in late
2001, and had slow growth till 2006, reaching 200 users in January of
that year. Since then growth in the user base has been far more rapid,
reaching 300 users in Dec 2006, 400 users in August 2007, 500 users
by July 2008, and 600 on January 2, 2009.

This puts the channel at the 7th largest community of the 7000 freenode
channels, and in the top 3 language communities. For comparision, a
sample of the state of the other language communities, with comments
comapred to their status a year ago:

   #php         612
   #python      604

 > #haskell     602 -- up 4

   ##c++        558
   ##c          506 -- down 1
   #perl        502 -- down 3
   #ruby-lang   288 -- down
   #lisp        264
   ##javascript 241
   #erlang      146 -- unchanged
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Jamie Brandon | 3 Jan 01:01 2009

Re: #haskell IRC channel reaches 600 users

The haskell community has a well deserved reputation for being one of
the friendliest online communities. Perhaps this would be a good point
to figure out what we're doing right? I'm convinced that part of it is
that offtopic conversation is encouraged through on haskell-cafe,
planet haskell and irc. It makes people seem more human and hence
harder to flame.

Jamie

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Don Stewart <dons <at> galois.com> wrote:
>
> A small announcement :)
>
> 7 years after its inception, under the guiding hand of Shae Erisson (aka
> shapr), the #haskell IRC channel[1] on freenode has reached 600
> concurrent users! It's now in the top 3 language channels by size.
>
> To chart the growth, we can note that the channel was founded in late
> 2001, and had slow growth till 2006, reaching 200 users in January of
> that year. Since then growth in the user base has been far more rapid,
> reaching 300 users in Dec 2006, 400 users in August 2007, 500 users
> by July 2008, and 600 on January 2, 2009.
>
> This puts the channel at the 7th largest community of the 7000 freenode
> channels, and in the top 3 language communities. For comparision, a
> sample of the state of the other language communities, with comments
> comapred to their status a year ago:
>
>   #php         612
>   #python      604
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Brent Yorgey | 3 Jan 19:20 2009

Haskell Weekly News: Issue 99 - January 3, 2009

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Issue 99 - January 03, 2009
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   Welcome to issue 99 of HWN, a newsletter covering developments in the
   [1]Haskell community.

   Happy new year to all! May 2009 be a year full of joy, family, friends,
   professional success, much Haskell hacking, and a minimal number of
   rabid weasels. Just in case.

Announcements

   #haskell IRC channel reaches 600 users. Don Stewart [2]announced that 7
   years after its inception, under the guiding hand of Shae Erisson (aka
   shapr), the [3]#haskell IRC channel on freenode has reached 600
   concurrent users!

   citeproc-hs-0.2. andrea rossato [4]announced the release of
   [5]citeproc-hs-0.2, a Haskell implementation of the Citation Style
   Language, which adds a Bibtex like citation and bibliographic
   formatting and generation facility to [6]pandoc. This version adds
   support for citation collapsing, a wrapper around [7]hs-bibutils, and
   some [8]API documentation.

   hs-bibutils-0.1. andrea rossato [9]announced the first release of
   [10]hs-bibutils, Haskell bindings to Chris Putnam's [11]bibutils.
   Bibutils is a library and a set of bibliographic utilities to
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Jeremy O'Donoghue | 4 Jan 16:19 2009
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ANN: wxHaskell 0.11.1

The wxHaskell development team is pleased to announce the release of
wxHaskell 0.11.1, a Haskell binding for the wxWidgets GUI library.

The Haskell support is built on a reasonably complete C language
binding, which could be used as the basis for wxWidgets support on other
languages/platforms which do not have easy mechanisms for linking with
C++ code.

The main highlights of wxHaskell 0.11.1 are: 

- Support for XRC resource files, allowing GUI design using a visual
tool. Note that this
   is currently not type safe, and programs will crash if a widget is
   not cast to the correct
   type on loading.
- Support for wxWidgets 2.8.x. Support for wxWidgets 2.4.2 is now
dropped and wxHaskell
   will not compile against versions of wxWidgets prior to 2.6. This
   means that exploratory
   development using GHCi is no longer possible. Workaround is to
   continue to use older
   wxHaskell versions.
- Support for GHC 6.10
- Preliminary support for Cabal / Hackage

The full list of changes is provided at the end of this mail.

Binary packages are available from the wxHaskell download site at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73133, for the
following platforms:
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Greg Heartsfield | 5 Jan 01:11 2009

ANNOUNCE: cabal2doap 0.1

I am pleased to announce a new tool for cabalized Haskell projects:
Cabal2doap generates Description of a Project (DOAP) XML/RDF data
representing a Haskell project.  This should make it possible for
semantic web project aggregation sites to find and index Haskell
projects.

The project is available through Hackage:
http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/cabal2doap

You can read a little more about it, and see a DOAP graph generated
from a haskell project at this blog post:
http://blog.gregheartsfield.com/2009/01/04/cabal2doap/

Thanks,
Greg Heartsfield
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Achim Schneider | 5 Jan 06:57 2009
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Re: #haskell IRC channel reaches 600 users

"Jamie Brandon" <jamiiecb <at> googlemail.com> wrote:

> The haskell community has a well deserved reputation for being one of
> the friendliest online communities. Perhaps this would be a good point
> to figure out what we're doing right? I'm convinced that part of it is
> that offtopic conversation is encouraged through on haskell-cafe,
> planet haskell and irc. It makes people seem more human and hence
> harder to flame.
> 
Well... if you believe what's written in the Cathedral and the Bazaar
(which I tend to in this case), which is that the main difference
between academic culture and hacker culture lies in the
tabooisation/encouragement of personal critique (aka flame, cf. rant),
then stuff might be easy to explain.

The flame-taboo in hacker culture doesn't actually prevent flames to
appear, albeit they are partly hidden and much less prone to
escalation than in say alt.politics. The valve tends go get opened
only iff you really, really know that you're right and the flamed one
doesn't have a chance to fight back with equal force without appearing
even more like a fool. Such flames aren't addressed exactly because of
the taboo and the respect peers have for the flamer _as a hacker_, not
necessarily as a flamer.

In academics, OTOH, were asbestos and flame throwers are compulsory,
people with highly sophisticated skills in both technical topics and
mental warfare are bred.

The Haskell community, as I observe it, is a melting pot of both
cultures.
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Achim Schneider | 5 Jan 07:27 2009
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Re: #haskell IRC channel reaches 600 users

Achim Schneider <barsoap <at> web.de> wrote:

> [...]
>
Hmmm... I seem to have left out the academics definition of bogosity. I
bet that others are much more qualified to elaborate on this, but my
working assumption has been (and still is) that it does include a wide
range of working code, and excludes a lot of abstract nonsense.

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Ian Lynagh | 5 Jan 23:43 2009
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Re: possible bug in pretty-1.0.1.0


Hi John,

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:17:56AM -0800, John MacFarlane wrote:
> I noticed a difference in how "hang" works between pretty-1.0.0.0 and
> pretty-1.0.1.0. I think it's a bug. If this isn't the right place to
> report it, please let me know where I should.

The best place at the moment is in GHC's trac:
    http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket
setting the component to "libraries/pretty".

Thanks
Ian

ICFP: Child care at conference

Potential ICFP attendees:

The ACM-SIGPLAN Executive Committee, which oversees and sponsors ICFP,
is considering expanding its travel grants for event participants in
need of child care assistance.  (Such expansion would also apply to
other major SIGPLAN-sponsored conferences, such as PLDI, POPL,
OOPSLA.)  The purpose of this message is to solicit feedback from
potential attendees regarding the desirability for child care
assistance and what forms of assistance be most appropriate.

If child care assistance at ICFP (or other SIGPLAN events) is of
interest to you, please contact me (at icfp.publicity <at> gmail.com -or-
fluet <at> tti-c.org) with your comments.  Some questions of particular
interest:
 * What age groups of children are most appropriate to cover?
 * What types of costs might SIGPLAN cover to facilitate your
participation in events?

Sincerely,
-Matthew Fluet (ICFP Publicity Chair)
Tony Hannan | 8 Jan 01:01 2009
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Hypothetical Haskell job in New York

Hello Haskellers,

I'm trying to convince my boss to use Haskell. His main concern is finding people who know Haskell when hiring. He is comfortable with Java because he knows he can always find a Java developer. So if I advertised we were looking for Haskell programmers in New York City, how many would respond? Please reply to this email if you would respond. Email me privately if you like and I will post the results to haskell-cafe later.

Thanks,
Tony

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