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Bob Marcum | 1 Nov 2006 04:50

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Re: Suggestion for an later release of eStudio


Peter wrote:
> 
> 
>Bob:  > When you highlight an area in the editor window, it would be nice to
>  > be able to right click in that highlighted area and be presented edit
>  > options, at least copy/cut. Then, when you position the cursor in the
>  > editor window (of that estudio window or another you may have open) it
>  > would be nice to be able to right clich there and be presented with
>  > the option to 'paste' into wherever the cursor is in that window...
>  > rather than having to move the mouse up to the tool bars to find those
>  > options. (Boy, am I lazy!)
> 
>Peter: I just type Ctrl+C or Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V. Because I'm very lazy.
> 

Peter, I should have realized this approach!  I have used it a bit and it so powerful and so easy!  Thank you!

Some people just really know how to be lazy.  :)

 
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Emmanuel Stapf [ES] | 1 Nov 2006 06:02

RE: EiffelStudio 5.7 Installation Problem

> Why is this happening?

Looks like something goes wrong during the precompilation phase and since we are
doing 3 precompilations for classic and 3 for .NET. My guess is that the .NET
one are failing. 

> On a different matter I want to replace the beta 2.0 version of the
> Microsoft.NET Framework. Can I uninstall the the beta version of the
> framework, install the new 2.0 framework without uninstalling
> EiffelStudio 5.7 first?

I suspect that there is something that EiffelStudio 5.7 doesn't like in the beta
of .NET 2.0. You can uninstall the beta and install the final release of .NET
2.0 without reinstalling  EiffelStudio. Only the .NET precompiles might need to
be rebuilt if you need them.

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Manu

 
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Ron Ostrow | 2 Nov 2006 05:25

Re: EiffelStudio 5.7 Installation Problem

--- In eiffel_software@..., "Emmanuel Stapf [ES]"
<manus <at> ...> wrote:
>
> > Why is this happening?
> 
> Looks like something goes wrong during the precompilation phase and
since we are
> doing 3 precompilations for classic and 3 for .NET. My guess is that
the .NET
> one are failing. 
> 
> > On a different matter I want to replace the beta 2.0 version of the
> > Microsoft.NET Framework. Can I uninstall the the beta version of the
> > framework, install the new 2.0 framework without uninstalling
> > EiffelStudio 5.7 first?
> 
> I suspect that there is something that EiffelStudio 5.7 doesn't like
in the beta
> of .NET 2.0. You can uninstall the beta and install the final
release of .NET
> 2.0 without reinstalling  EiffelStudio. Only the .NET precompiles
might need to
> be rebuilt if you need them.
> 
> Regards,
> Manu
>

I uninstalled EiffelStudio 5.7, uninstalled Microsft .NET Framework
2.0 beta, installed Microsft .NET Framwork 2.0 (final non-beta

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Emmanuel Stapf [ES] | 2 Nov 2006 05:55

RE: Re: EiffelStudio 5.7 Installation Problem

> What are "base-mt", "vision2-mt" and "wel-mt"? Were they 
> suppose to be precompiled during enstallation?

It is the version of base, wel and vision2 compiled in multithreaded mode. They
are only needed if you plan on developing a multithreaded application using a
precompiled library.

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Cheng-Chang Wu | 2 Nov 2006 08:51

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Can't input chinese.

Hi,

Eiffel Studio 5.7 for linux cannot display chinese
characters nor accept inputs from input method such as
scim.

Have ISE plan to work on this problem?

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Colin Adams | 2 Nov 2006 09:32

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RE: Can't input chinese.

>From: Cheng-Chang Wu <chengchangwu@...>

>Eiffel Studio 5.7 for linux cannot display chinese
>characters nor accept inputs from input method such as
>scim.

This is consistent with 5.7 compiler not accepting Unicode class texts.

>Have ISE plan to work on this problem?

Since ECMA mandates Unicode class texts (8.32.1) as an option, then they 
surely have.

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Bernd Schoeller | 2 Nov 2006 10:50

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Re: Can't input chinese.

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:32:22 +0100, Colin Adams  
<colinpauladams@...> wrote:

>> From: Cheng-Chang Wu <chengchangwu@...>
>
>> Eiffel Studio 5.7 for linux cannot display chinese
>> characters nor accept inputs from input method such as
>> scim.
>
> This is consistent with 5.7 compiler not accepting Unicode class texts.
>
>> Have ISE plan to work on this problem?
>
> Since ECMA mandates Unicode class texts (8.32.1) as an option, then they
> surely have.

A couple of students have tried to create an internationalized version of  
EiffelStudio including a chinese translation of the development  
environment. Unfortunately, switching from STRING_8 to STRING_32  
everywhere seems to create numerous problems. Still, the students have  
create an internationalization framework that can be applied to Eiffel  
applications. We hope to publish it soon. That way, you would first create  
an English application using EiffelStudio (employing the framework) and  
later create translations using the well-established .mo/.po files.

Eventually we might get a Chinese version of EiffelStudio, but that  
definitely needs lots of time and work.

See http://eiffelsoftware.origo.ethz.ch/index.php/I18n

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Cheng-Chang Wu | 2 Nov 2006 12:07

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RE: Can't input chinese.


--- Colin Adams <colinpauladams@...> 說：

> >From: Cheng-Chang Wu <chengchangwu@...>
> 
> >Eiffel Studio 5.7 for linux cannot display chinese
> >characters nor accept inputs from input method such
> as
> >scim.
> 
> This is consistent with 5.7 compiler not accepting
> Unicode class texts.
> 
> >Have ISE plan to work on this problem?
> 

But not all chinese texts are encoded using Unicode.
There are at least three common chinese encoding
systems:  GB, BIG5 and Unicode. GB encoding system is
the official standard in Mainland china, but BIG5 is
de facto standard of Taiwan.

GTK can handle all of these encodings. Maybe Eiffel
Studio has masked the highest bit of characters so
they cannot be shown with GTK.

For CJK input Eiffel Studio should use GtkImContext to
get input from the user.

Cheng-Chang Wu

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Cheng-Chang Wu | 2 Nov 2006 12:27

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Re: Can't input chinese.

Hi,

> 
> A couple of students have tried to create an
> internationalized version of  
> EiffelStudio including a chinese translation of the
> development  
> environment. Unfortunately, switching from STRING_8
> to STRING_32  
> everywhere seems to create numerous problems.

My problem is really not that big. I was developing
eiffel programs using Eclipse as my editor. Now I want
to  edit these programs using Eiffel Studio's editor,
but comments written in chinese can not be shown
correctely. These chinese characters are encoded with
Big5, not Unicode. Most of the GTK applications can
treat these strings as 8 bit strings and show it
according to the current locale. Only Eiffel Studio
fails to do it correctly.

The second problem is Eiffel Studio seems have no
support for XIM or gtk's immodule, so no chinese input
server can connect to Eiffel Studio.

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Colin Adams | 2 Nov 2006 12:36

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RE: Can't input chinese.

>From: Cheng-Chang Wu <chengchangwu@...>

>--- Colin Adams <colinpauladams@...> »¡¡G

>
>But not all chinese texts are encoded using Unicode.

So convert them using iconv.

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