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Jonathan Riddell | 2 Apr 2012 12:02
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Fwd: Re: KSecrets

It is alpha state, it should not be included in SC 4.8.

----- Forwarded message from Valentin Rusu <kde <at> rusu.info> -----

Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:48:41 +0200
From: Valentin Rusu <kde <at> rusu.info>
To: Anne-Marie Mahfouf <annemarie.mahfouf <at> free.fr>
Cc: annma <at> kde.org, jriddell <at> ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: KSecrets

On 03/31/2012 12:04 PM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
>Hi Valentin,

Hello,

>
>I am inquiring with this mail about the status of KSecrets. Several 
>questions were raised recently:
>- Is KSecret used within KDE? If so, how?

KSecrets is not yet used within KDE. It aims to replace KWallet and it 
was previously started by Michael Leupold who worked with Stef Walter 
from GNOME/keyring to define a freedesktop.org specification for a 
secrets storing service. GNOME/keyring already implements this 
interface, but I don't know if it's ready.

When I attended the last Randa meeting, I started the implementation of 
a client library, initially designed for kdelibs. That library is ready 
to be used. In parallelel, I did a KWallet implementation based on that 
library. But when I attempted to include it in kdelibs, a veto came from
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Dirk Mueller | 2 Apr 2012 13:25
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Re: KDE 4.8.2 tarballs (try#1) uploaded

On Friday 30 March 2012, Rex Dieter wrote:

> > kde-base-artwork-4.8.2 installs the same ksplash theme that already comes
> > with kde-workspace.
> Looks like creating that separate kde-base-artwork tarball was a mistake
> (happened in 4.8.1 too, which also differred from 4.8.0)

Yes, kde-base-artwork was accidentally in the svn-tarball list still. I've 
removed it from there now (and deleted the generated tarball on ftp).

Thanks,
Dirk
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Dirk Mueller | 2 Apr 2012 13:36
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Re: KDE 4.8.2 tarballs (try#1) uploaded

On Saturday 31 March 2012, Andrea Scarpino wrote:

> Maybe you want to add this commit:
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-
> baseapps/konsole/repository/revisions/bf3e57e94b54c1c4337d7960e0fda0ef98156
> 451
> 
> Is a workaround to the font issue with Qt 4.8 (KDEBUG#280896)

Hi, 

I've added it. I've also updated kdesdk to fix the permission issues: 

a47a7a28ba48e5553bdb610c548a32dd  kdesdk-4.8.2.tar.xz
c63b525e94a0e7e1753ea3d9dbff6970  konsole-4.8.2.tar.xz

Greetings,
Dirk
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Anne-Marie Mahfouf | 2 Apr 2012 15:20
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Re: Fwd: Re: KSecrets

On 04/02/2012 12:02 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> It is alpha state, it should not be included in SC 4.8.
>
I think I remember that when it was in review it was mentioned that it 
was in alpha state and that having it in production would make it test 
and fixed and improved. This did not happen.

I am in favor of removing it, as is Jonathan.

What do other people think?

Anne-Marie

> ----- Forwarded message from Valentin Rusu<kde <at> rusu.info>  -----
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:48:41 +0200
> From: Valentin Rusu<kde <at> rusu.info>
> To: Anne-Marie Mahfouf<annemarie.mahfouf <at> free.fr>
> Cc: annma <at> kde.org, jriddell <at> ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: KSecrets
>
> On 03/31/2012 12:04 PM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
>> Hi Valentin,
> Hello,
>
>> I am inquiring with this mail about the status of KSecrets. Several
>> questions were raised recently:
>> - Is KSecret used within KDE? If so, how?
> KSecrets is not yet used within KDE. It aims to replace KWallet and it
> was previously started by Michael Leupold who worked with Stef Walter
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Albert Astals Cid | 2 Apr 2012 19:06
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Re: Fwd: Re: KSecrets

El Dilluns, 2 d'abril de 2012, a les 15:20:12, Anne-Marie Mahfouf va escriure:
> On 04/02/2012 12:02 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > It is alpha state, it should not be included in SC 4.8.
> 
> I think I remember that when it was in review it was mentioned that it
> was in alpha state and that having it in production would make it test
> and fixed and improved. This did not happen.
> 
> I am in favor of removing it, as is Jonathan.
> 
> What do other people think?

People will complain we are removing stuff from 4.8.1 to 4.8.2 (even if it's 
stuff they never used)

My suggestion is to leave it there as i don't see it hurting us at the moment 
and make sure it is in good shape for 4.9

Albert

> 
> Anne-Marie
> 
> > ----- Forwarded message from Valentin Rusu<kde <at> rusu.info>  -----
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:48:41 +0200
> > From: Valentin Rusu<kde <at> rusu.info>
> > To: Anne-Marie Mahfouf<annemarie.mahfouf <at> free.fr>
> > Cc: annma <at> kde.org, jriddell <at> ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: KSecrets
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Jonathan Riddell | 3 Apr 2012 10:10
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Re: Fwd: Re: KSecrets

On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:06:29PM +0200, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dilluns, 2 d'abril de 2012, a les 15:20:12, Anne-Marie Mahfouf va escriure:
> > On 04/02/2012 12:02 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > > It is alpha state, it should not be included in SC 4.8.
> > 
> > I think I remember that when it was in review it was mentioned that it
> > was in alpha state and that having it in production would make it test
> > and fixed and improved. This did not happen.
> > 
> > I am in favor of removing it, as is Jonathan.
> > 
> > What do other people think?
> 
> People will complain we are removing stuff from 4.8.1 to 4.8.2 (even if it's 
> stuff they never used)
> 
> My suggestion is to leave it there as i don't see it hurting us at the moment 
> and make sure it is in good shape for 4.9

Shipping alpha software as if it is stable is a mistake and we should fix it.  It will hurt our reputation to
continue doing that.

Jonathan
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Albert Astals Cid | 3 Apr 2012 11:04
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Re: Fwd: Re: KSecrets

--- El mar, 3/4/12, Jonathan Riddell escribió:

> +0200, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El Dilluns, 2 d'abril de 2012, a les 15:20:12,
> Anne-Marie Mahfouf va escriure:
> > > On 04/02/2012 12:02 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > > > It is alpha state, it should not be included
> in SC 4.8.
> > > 
> > > I think I remember that when it was in review it
> was mentioned that it
> > > was in alpha state and that having it in
> production would make it test
> > > and fixed and improved. This did not happen.
> > > 
> > > I am in favor of removing it, as is Jonathan.
> > > 
> > > What do other people think?
> > 
> > People will complain we are removing stuff from 4.8.1
> to 4.8.2 (even if it's 
> > stuff they never used)
> > 
> > My suggestion is to leave it there as i don't see it
> hurting us at the moment 
> > and make sure it is in good shape for 4.9
> 
> Shipping alpha software as if it is stable is a mistake and
> we should fix it.  It will hurt our reputation to
> continue doing that.
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Will Stephenson | 3 Apr 2012 15:25
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4.8.2 today?

I'm not aware of any showstopper issues for a 4.8.2 today, I assume we'll 
announce it later this afternoon.

Sebas, are you doing the announcements?

Will

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Will Stephenson | 3 Apr 2012 15:25
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4.8.2 today?

I'm not aware of any showstopper issues for a 4.8.2 today, I assume we'll 
announce it later this afternoon.

Sebas, are you doing the announcements?

Will

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Sebastian Kügler | 3 Apr 2012 15:36
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Re: 4.8.2 today?

On Tuesday, April 03, 2012 15:25:24 Will Stephenson wrote:
> I'm not aware of any showstopper issues for a 4.8.2 today, I assume we'll 
> announce it later this afternoon.
> 
> Sebas, are you doing the announcements?

Yes, I'm waiting for Dirk's OK.

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