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Friedrich W. H. Kossebau | 2 Jan 01:44
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Re: tags/unmaintained/4 tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit/parts [POSSIBLY UNSAFE]

Am Montag, 31. Dezember 2007, um 16:22 Uhr, schrieb Friedrich W. H. Kossebau:
> Am Montag, 31. Dezember 2007, um 15:35 Uhr, schrieb Allen Winter:
> > On Monday 31 December 2007 08:46:28 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > > SVN commit 755123 by kossebau:
> > >
> > > Moving KHexEdit to the Off, as dicussed with the release team.
> > >
> > > Is only halfways ported to KDE4 (compiles at least) and has no active
> > > maintainer. Let's hope Okteta is ready for KDE 4.1 to close the gap
> > > this is leaving. Kept the Okteta libs and parts in the subdirectories
> > > core, gui and parts, as they are maintained and used.
> >
> > Thanks Friedrich.
> >
> > Would you please add this info into the kdeutils table at
> > http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status
>
> Will do.
>
> Looking there I found out that I forgot about the translations. In
> trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/messages I see no" unmaintained" folder. So
> should I simply remove the khexedit.pot? So how would the process of
> resurrecting the program, given somebody wants to do it, with regard to
> translations be supported? Where could one note the revision number of once
> existing translations or similar?

No idea? Will just svn r(e)m(ove) it then, on Wednesday night, if noone minds 
and update the process_orphans.txt with
	delete messages/kdeutils/khexedit.po
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Tom Albers | 2 Jan 09:48
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Re: tags/unmaintained/4 tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit/parts [POSSIBLY UNSAFE]

Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 01:44 schreef u:
> No idea? Will just svn r(e)m(ove) it then, on Wednesday night, if noone minds 
> and update the process_orphans.txt with
> 	delete messages/kdeutils/khexedit.po

Yes please.

> Just saw, I forgot kdeutils/doc/khexedit, oh well. Were should this dir go?
> 	tags/unmaintained/4/doc?
> Or better
> 	tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit/doc?

tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit/doc please.

Toma
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Albert Astals Cid | 2 Jan 14:54
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Re: tags/unmaintained/4 tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit/parts [POSSIBLY UNSAFE]

A Dimecres 02 Gener 2008, Tom Albers va escriure:
> Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 01:44 schreef u:
> > No idea? Will just svn r(e)m(ove) it then, on Wednesday night, if noone
> > minds and update the process_orphans.txt with
> > 	delete messages/kdeutils/khexedit.po
>
> Yes please.

I did it, as it is needed to have a full l10n-kde4 checkout

>
> > Just saw, I forgot kdeutils/doc/khexedit, oh well. Were should this dir
> > go? tags/unmaintained/4/doc?
> > Or better
> > 	tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit/doc?
>
> tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit/doc please.

Done too.

Albert

>
> Toma
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Alexander Neundorf | 2 Jan 16:18
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disabling kdenetwork/lanbrowsing for 4.0.0

Hi,

in kdenetwork there is lanbrowsing/, which consists of:
-the lisa daemon, a daemon which basically scans the local network for IP 
addresses which respond to ping packets, and which cooperates with other lisa 
daemons in the network
-the lan:/ ioslave, which queries the lisa daemon, and which check (on demand) 
the samba, nfs, http, and ssh ports on a host to offer these services of a 
host as directories via kio
-a control module for all that

I wrote that in KDE 2 times, and more or less since end of 2002 I didn't 
really work on it, especially not for KDE 4. In the meantime there are 
technologies like Zeroconf, which should be able to do the same job, just 
better.

Therefor I'd like to disable lanbrowsing from kdenetwork for the 4.0.0 
release, patch attached.

Ok ?

Alex
Attachment (disable-lanbrowsing.patch): text/x-diff, 549 bytes
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Tom Albers | 2 Jan 16:22
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Re: disabling kdenetwork/lanbrowsing for 4.0.0

Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 16:18 schreef u:
> Hi,
> 
> in kdenetwork there is lanbrowsing/, which consists of:
> -the lisa daemon, a daemon which basically scans the local network for IP 
> addresses which respond to ping packets, and which cooperates with other lisa 
> daemons in the network
> -the lan:/ ioslave, which queries the lisa daemon, and which check (on demand) 
> the samba, nfs, http, and ssh ports on a host to offer these services of a 
> host as directories via kio
> -a control module for all that
> 
> I wrote that in KDE 2 times, and more or less since end of 2002 I didn't 
> really work on it, especially not for KDE 4. In the meantime there are 
> technologies like Zeroconf, which should be able to do the same job, just 
> better.
> 
> Therefor I'd like to disable lanbrowsing from kdenetwork for the 4.0.0 
> release, patch attached.
> 
> Ok ?
> 
> Alex

Hi, 

Thanks for informing this list. Do you plan to work on it in the future? 
If not, I think it is better to move it to /tags/unmaintained/4 
If you do, we might consider moving it to playground for now. 
What do you think?
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Friedrich W. H. Kossebau | 2 Jan 17:29
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Re: tags/unmaintained/4 tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit/parts [POSSIBLY UNSAFE]

Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2008, um 14:54 Uhr, schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> A Dimecres 02 Gener 2008, Tom Albers va escriure:
> > Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 01:44 schreef u:
> > > No idea? Will just svn r(e)m(ove) it then, on Wednesday night, if noone
> > > minds and update the process_orphans.txt with
> > > 	delete messages/kdeutils/khexedit.po
> >
> > Yes please.
>
> I did it, as it is needed to have a full l10n-kde4 checkout

Thanks.

Why is the full checkout needed? Is the script run locally? 
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status#i18n 
doesn't say so. Well, it says, one needs the templates and scripts folder. 
And even then: Isn't it enough to just checkout the module folders, in this 
case templates/messages/kdeutils/ and templates/docmessages/kdeutils/ and do 
the modification? What text should I add to techbase, then?

Friedrich
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Albert Astals Cid | 2 Jan 17:33
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Re: tags/unmaintained/4 tags/unmaintained/4/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit trunk/KDE/kdeutils/khexedit/parts [POSSIBLY UNSAFE]

A Dimecres 02 Gener 2008, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau va escriure:
> Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2008, um 14:54 Uhr, schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> > A Dimecres 02 Gener 2008, Tom Albers va escriure:
> > > Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 01:44 schreef u:
> > > > No idea? Will just svn r(e)m(ove) it then, on Wednesday night, if
> > > > noone minds and update the process_orphans.txt with
> > > > 	delete messages/kdeutils/khexedit.po
> > >
> > > Yes please.
> >
> > I did it, as it is needed to have a full l10n-kde4 checkout
>
> Thanks.
>
> Why is the full checkout needed? Is the script run locally?
> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status#i1
>8n doesn't say so. Well, it says, one needs the templates and scripts
> folder. And even then: Isn't it enough to just checkout the module folders,
> in this case templates/messages/kdeutils/ and
> templates/docmessages/kdeutils/ and do the modification? What text should I
> add to techbase, then?

Well, the process_orphans.sh script is not run automatically, so to "apply" 
the changes done in it you need to have the full checkout.

Albert

>
> Friedrich
> _______________________________________________
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Urs Wolfer | 2 Jan 21:45
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Re: disabling kdenetwork/lanbrowsing for 4.0.0

On Wednesday 02 January 2008 16.22:25 Tom Albers wrote:
> Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 16:18 schreef u:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in kdenetwork there is lanbrowsing/, which consists of:
> > -the lisa daemon, a daemon which basically scans the local network for IP
> > addresses which respond to ping packets, and which cooperates with other
> > lisa daemons in the network
> > -the lan:/ ioslave, which queries the lisa daemon, and which check (on
> > demand) the samba, nfs, http, and ssh ports on a host to offer these
> > services of a host as directories via kio
> > -a control module for all that
> >
> > I wrote that in KDE 2 times, and more or less since end of 2002 I didn't
> > really work on it, especially not for KDE 4. In the meantime there are
> > technologies like Zeroconf, which should be able to do the same job, just
> > better.
> >
> > Therefor I'd like to disable lanbrowsing from kdenetwork for the 4.0.0
> > release, patch attached.
> >
> > Ok ?
> >
> > Alex
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for informing this list. Do you plan to work on it in the future?
> If not, I think it is better to move it to /tags/unmaintained/4
> If you do, we might consider moving it to playground for now.
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Albert Astals Cid | 3 Jan 00:32
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Removing settings:/ ioslave ?

Hi, as of now, settings:/ ioslave it is not working, if you look at its code, 
the listings of the settings:/ ioslave comes from the contents built at 
buildsycoca state of what it is defined in the Settings/ submenu entry 
defined by kde-settings.menu

The problem is that right now, kcm entries are not Type=Application anymore, 
they are now Type=Service so they are not taken into account in menu building 
time so what you get in settings:/ is the KDE3 kcm if you have any or nothing 
otherwise.

Actually i think that the current state is "unfixable" because the only way of 
fixing settings:/ that i can think of is basically rewriting it not to use 
the Settings/ menu defined in kde-settings.menu and instead using whatever 
systemsettings does to get the categories and kcm, but that is too much for 1 
day we have until the tagging.

So basically i'm requesting for permission to remove it and for a suggestion 
of what to do with the nice settings:/ link we have in konqueror start page.

Albert

P.S: This is all based on my and Rafael (ereslibre) understanding of the code, 
that can be totally wrong and might be easily fixable, but this is the best 
we could do while trying to understand kio_settings
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Albert Astals Cid | 3 Jan 00:43
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Konqueror first page links to media:/

That does not exist!!!

Releasing KDE 4.0 like that is a bad idea, any taker?

Albert
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