Re: kdeutils maintainer? khexedit program unmaintained

On Friday 30 November 2007 14:34:51 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> from http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status#Module_Status I 
> read there is no Release Maintainer for kdeutils. So who decides/cares there? 
> I guess this list, then.
> 
The Release Team, so I'll copy this over to our mailing list.

> With KHexEdit currently there is a tricky situation. Under kdeutils/khexedit 
> live two separate projects, the program KHexEdit and the binary editor plugin 
> (see the subdirs core, gui, parts), project name Okteta*.  I personally only 
> care for Okteta, but not for the program (see footnote why). 
> 
> Right now KHexEdit is roughly ported and runs, but is not fully functional 
> (painting draws outside of PaintEvent, view tabs running wild and crash the 
> program, html/rtf export not working). So not really in release state (yet).
> Two solutions:
> 1. Exclude from release and hope for me getting Okteta ready for the next one.
> 2. Search maintainer and fix KHexEdit.
> 
> I favour #1 (one program to rule things, no conflicts ;) But I understand 
> those who like #2 more, just tell me what you think.
> In case most like #2 more I would blog and mail a maintainer query to Danny 
> for inclusion in the digest.
> 
> So?
> 
> * Both projects share no code, as the plugin was written from scratch. Instead 
> of modifying KHexEdit to make use of the libs, I decided to write a program 

Re: [kde-ev-marketing] Delaying 4.0?

On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Wade Olson wrote:

> Because we, the release planning group, have been asking since the
> summer for a good, safe, reliable date for a release event would be.
> And guess what: that answer was November.  So we padded 2 months and
> are now running into the same problem.

Really? When I was asked I said "plan for mid of february" ? ;) I was rather 
surprised to see an announcement for the release party one month before that 
time. 

Anyway, not gonna change anything anymore. Note that I`d rather release 4.0.x 
shortly afterwards than delaying forever. 

Greetings,
Dirk

Does the string freeze remain in effect?

Hi,

ok, so KDE 4.0 has been delayed by around a month. Does this open another 
window to do some string changes (if so, for how long), or does the string 
freeze remain in effect?

On a more general note: I suppose for people who are highly involved in kde 
development this will not be a problem, and the information is accessible 
somewhere, but as an on-and-off contributor, I've found myself confused about 
what is or is not allowed at the moment, more than once. To me it would be 
really helpful, if there was a large visible note right at the top of 
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule (or some other 
highly visible page), which always lists the freezes which are currently in 
effect, and how long they are expected to stay in effect.

Regards
Thomas

Re: Does the string freeze remain in effect?

Tagging & release date RC2.

Hi, 

The techbase page has no date assigned to tagging and releasing RC2.
Was the plan to tag it this week and release next week?

Toma

Re: Tagging & release date RC2.

On Monday 03 December 2007 20:46:19 Tom Albers wrote:
> The techbase page has no date assigned to tagging and releasing RC2.
> Was the plan to tag it this week and release next week?

That's what I understand we agreed upon. I didn't get around to fixing the 
techbase site, sorry for that.  Also, does someone feel like emailing k-c-d 
with the updated plans (Ok, a bit late, but also forgot about doing that).
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Re: kdeutils maintainer? khexedit program unmaintained

Re: kdeutils maintainer? khexedit program unmaintained

Hi Allen,

Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2007, um 23:11 Uhr, schrieb Allen Winter:
> On Friday 30 November 2007 22:12:21 Allen Winter wrote:
> > On Friday 30 November 2007 14:34:51 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > from
> > > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status#Module_Status
> > > I read there is no Release Maintainer for kdeutils. So who
> > > decides/cares there? I guess this list, then.
> >
> > The Release Team, so I'll copy this over to our mailing list.

Alright, am subscribed there, too.

> > > With KHexEdit currently there is a tricky situation. Under
> > > kdeutils/khexedit live two separate projects, the program KHexEdit and
> > > the binary editor plugin (see the subdirs core, gui, parts), project
> > > name Okteta*.  I personally only care for Okteta, but not for the
> > > program (see footnote why).
> > >
> > > Right now KHexEdit is roughly ported and runs, but is not fully
> > > functional (painting draws outside of PaintEvent, view tabs running
> > > wild and crash the program, html/rtf export not working). So not really
> > > in release state (yet). Two solutions:
> > > 1. Exclude from release and hope for me getting Okteta ready for the
> > > next one. 2. Search maintainer and fix KHexEdit.
> > >
> > > I favour #1 (one program to rule things, no conflicts ;) But I
> > > understand those who like #2 more, just tell me what you think.
> > > In case most like #2 more I would blog and mail a maintainer query to
> > > Danny for inclusion in the digest.
> > >
> > > So?
> > >
> > > * Both projects share no code, as the plugin was written from scratch.
> > > Instead of modifying KHexEdit to make use of the libs, I decided to
> > > write a program also from scratch, using the libs. I am only halfway
> > > done, see playground/utils/okteta. Bookmarks, Undo, and embedded search
> > > dialog are still missing to match KHexEdit's features, but else looks
> > > good.
> > >
> > > Friedrich
> >
> > If khexedit (the application) is truly terrible and unmaintained then we
> > shouldn't release it.  We should remove khexedit from kdeutils and plan
> > on Okteta for 4.1. In the meantime, Okteta should be developed in
> > playground.
> > IOW: I agree with option 1.
> >
> > This is the same plan we are following for KAider replacing KBabel.

Did someone besides me try KHexEdit? I might be wrong with my impression and 
biased (well, the latter I am for sure ;).

> So should I add a kdeutils table to the Module Status page
> saying that khexedit will be removed for 4.0 and that
> okteta will be new in 4.1??
>
> Freidrich: I assume you will be happy to do the khexedit move to
> unmaintained/4?

Not happy (heh, this is killing/removing a program which is around since 
1999), but I would do.

As the Okteta libs and KParts living in subdirs of KHexEdit (core/, gui/ and 
parts/) are maintained, by me, I would keep them there, just moving the files 
in the toplevel dir (and pics) which belong to the KHexEdit program.
The parts are implementing the modul interfaces from 
kdelibs/interfaces/khexedit/, which are used at least by KPilot and KDevelop 
(http://lxr.kde.org/ident?i=BytesEditInterface).

I guess renaming kdeutils/khexedit/ to kdeutils/okteta after that would match 
the content left in there, but it would make too many people unhappy, that 
close to a release, right? Too sad.
Moving to extragear, to follow the path of KAider, right now would be similar 
complicated...

I would svn mv kdeutils/khexedit/*  -N (or similar) to where exactly?

Friedrich

Re: Tagging & release date RC2.

Re: Tagging & release date RC2.

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 01:55:54 Allen Winter wrote:
> On Monday 03 December 2007 16:22:27 Sebastian Kuegler wrote:
> > On Monday 03 December 2007 20:46:19 Tom Albers wrote:
> > > The techbase page has no date assigned to tagging and releasing RC2.
> > > Was the plan to tag it this week and release next week?
> >
> > That's what I understand we agreed upon. I didn't get around to fixing
> > the techbase site, sorry for that.
>
> Done, by toma.

Toma rocks.

> > Also, does someone feel like emailing k-c-d with the updated plans.
>
> Done, by me.

You rock.

> Dirk:  the plan calls for tagging RC2 on Wed 5 Dec.  Is that date ok for
> you?

Dirk rocks anyway.
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