Allen Winter | 3 Apr 01:55 2007
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Final Applications Date?

Howdy,

We don't specifically mention a date in the KDE4.0 Release Schedule
by which all apps must be in place in their modules.

Makes sense to me that all applications that will be released
with KDE 4.0 should be in place in their respective modules
on or before the Usability and Accessibility Review, 8 May.

Or, maybe by 1 June when the Feature Freeze hits instead?

Comments?

-Allen
Allen Winter | 3 Apr 17:41 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 6:02:34 am Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> A Dimarts 03 Abril 2007, Allen Winter va escriure:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > We don't specifically mention a date in the KDE4.0 Release Schedule
> > by which all apps must be in place in their modules.
> >
> > Makes sense to me that all applications that will be released
> > with KDE 4.0 should be in place in their respective modules
> > on or before the Usability and Accessibility Review, 8 May.
> >
> > Or, maybe by 1 June when the Feature Freeze hits instead?
> 
> We discussed this thing in last kde-games IRC meeting and i think we decided 
> that it would be good that games that wanted to be on final kdegames should 
> move to kdereview 3 weeks earlier than 1 June, so they had the 2 week review 
> period and still one week for those who don't test kdereview, that would make 
> May 10 as last day to switch to kdereview, pretty close to your May 8.
> 

So unless there are objections I will make 8 May the deadline
for moving new apps into our kdefoo modules.  

-Allen
Allen Winter | 3 Apr 22:45 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 1:43:59 pm Alex Merry wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 Apr 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 6:02:34 am Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > A Dimarts 03 Abril 2007, Allen Winter va escriure:
> > > > Makes sense to me that all applications that will be released
> > > > with KDE 4.0 should be in place in their respective modules
> > > > on or before the Usability and Accessibility Review, 8 May.
> > >
> > > We discussed this thing in last kde-games IRC meeting and i think
> > > we decided that it would be good that games that wanted to be on
> > > final kdegames should move to kdereview 3 weeks earlier than 1
> > > June, so they had the 2 week review period and still one week for
> > > those who don't test kdereview, that would make May 10 as last day
> > > to switch to kdereview, pretty close to your May 8.
> >
> > So unless there are objections I will make 8 May the deadline
> > for moving new apps into our kdefoo modules.
> 
> Although Albert's explanation of the kdegames situation is that the 
> games should be in kdereview by 10th May, and in kdegames by 1 week 
> before 1st June (25th May).
> 
Ah, right.  I misunderstood.

How about:
    New apps for KDE4.0 must be committed into either kdereview or kdefoo by 8 May. 
    No new apps can be added to kdefoo after 1 June.
    extragear is not part of this plan

kdefoo is a main application module, i.e, foo = {accessibility, addons, admin, base, edu, games...}
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Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper | 4 Apr 03:44 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007 1:43:59 pm Alex Merry wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 Apr 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 6:02:34 am Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > A Dimarts 03 Abril 2007, Allen Winter va escriure:
> > > > > Makes sense to me that all applications that will be released
> > > > > with KDE 4.0 should be in place in their respective modules
> > > > > on or before the Usability and Accessibility Review, 8 May.
> > > >
> > > > We discussed this thing in last kde-games IRC meeting and i think
> > > > we decided that it would be good that games that wanted to be on
> > > > final kdegames should move to kdereview 3 weeks earlier than 1
> > > > June, so they had the 2 week review period and still one week for
> > > > those who don't test kdereview, that would make May 10 as last day
> > > > to switch to kdereview, pretty close to your May 8.
> > >
> > > So unless there are objections I will make 8 May the deadline
> > > for moving new apps into our kdefoo modules.
> >
> > Although Albert's explanation of the kdegames situation is that the
> > games should be in kdereview by 10th May, and in kdegames by 1 week
> > before 1st June (25th May).
>
> Ah, right.  I misunderstood.
>
> How about:
>     New apps for KDE4.0 must be committed into either kdereview or kdefoo
> by 8 May. No new apps can be added to kdefoo after 1 June.
>     extragear is not part of this plan
>
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Allen Winter | 5 Apr 16:01 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 9:44:25 pm Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 1:43:59 pm Alex Merry wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 03 Apr 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 6:02:34 am Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > > A Dimarts 03 Abril 2007, Allen Winter va escriure:
> > > > > > Makes sense to me that all applications that will be released
> > > > > > with KDE 4.0 should be in place in their respective modules
> > > > > > on or before the Usability and Accessibility Review, 8 May.
> > > > >
> > > > > We discussed this thing in last kde-games IRC meeting and i think
> > > > > we decided that it would be good that games that wanted to be on
> > > > > final kdegames should move to kdereview 3 weeks earlier than 1
> > > > > June, so they had the 2 week review period and still one week for
> > > > > those who don't test kdereview, that would make May 10 as last day
> > > > > to switch to kdereview, pretty close to your May 8.
> > > >
> > > > So unless there are objections I will make 8 May the deadline
> > > > for moving new apps into our kdefoo modules.
> > >
> > > Although Albert's explanation of the kdegames situation is that the
> > > games should be in kdereview by 10th May, and in kdegames by 1 week
> > > before 1st June (25th May).
> >
> > Ah, right.  I misunderstood.
> >
> > How about:
> >     New apps for KDE4.0 must be committed into either kdereview or kdefoo
> > by 8 May. No new apps can be added to kdefoo after 1 June.
> >     extragear is not part of this plan
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Aaron J. Seigo | 5 Apr 17:39 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Thursday 05 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> On 8 May 2007 New applications must be committed into kdereview.
>
> On 8 May 2007 Resurrected applications (like kpilot) must be committed
> back into their main kdefoo module

so 6 days after the libs freeze all apps must be present and accounted for?

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On Thursday 05 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> On 8 May 2007 New applications must be committed into kdereview.
>
> On 8 May 2007 Resurrected applications (like kpilot) must be committed
> back into their main kdefoo module

so 6 days after the libs freeze all apps must be present and accounted for?

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Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper | 5 Apr 16:55 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Thursday 05 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007 9:44:25 pm Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 1:43:59 pm Alex Merry wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 03 Apr 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 6:02:34 am Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > > > A Dimarts 03 Abril 2007, Allen Winter va escriure:
> > > > > > > Makes sense to me that all applications that will be released
> > > > > > > with KDE 4.0 should be in place in their respective modules
> > > > > > > on or before the Usability and Accessibility Review, 8 May.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We discussed this thing in last kde-games IRC meeting and i think
> > > > > > we decided that it would be good that games that wanted to be on
> > > > > > final kdegames should move to kdereview 3 weeks earlier than 1
> > > > > > June, so they had the 2 week review period and still one week for
> > > > > > those who don't test kdereview, that would make May 10 as last
> > > > > > day to switch to kdereview, pretty close to your May 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > So unless there are objections I will make 8 May the deadline
> > > > > for moving new apps into our kdefoo modules.
> > > >
> > > > Although Albert's explanation of the kdegames situation is that the
> > > > games should be in kdereview by 10th May, and in kdegames by 1 week
> > > > before 1st June (25th May).
> > >
> > > Ah, right.  I misunderstood.
> > >
> > > How about:
> > >     New apps for KDE4.0 must be committed into either kdereview or
> > > kdefoo by 8 May. No new apps can be added to kdefoo after 1 June.
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Allen Winter | 5 Apr 22:35 2007
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Re: Final Applications Date?

On Thursday 05 April 2007 11:39:17 am you wrote:
> On Thursday 05 April 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > On 8 May 2007 New applications must be committed into kdereview.
> >
> > On 8 May 2007 Resurrected applications (like kpilot) must be committed
> > back into their main kdefoo module
> 
> so 6 days after the libs freeze all apps must be present and accounted for?
> 

Yeah, about a week.
We said this was an ambitious, optimistic plan :)

http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status shows
the following apps which are affected by this schedule:

 Marble
 Gwenview
 KMobiletools
 KPilot
 Kaider

Is there someone handling kdegames?  Because we know that there
are several new games planned for KDE 4.0.  We need that list
added to the wiki.

Christian Ehrlicher | 11 Apr 19:50 2007
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compiler for KDE4/win32 binary packages

Hi,

On win32 we support two compilers to compile kde4. Because they're 
binary incompatible, it is not possible to mix mingw and msvc libs and 
executables and we have to take care that the end-user does not get into 
this situation. Also msvc is not supported by the open-source version of 
Qt4.
So my question is - are there any objections against the plan to release 
binaries for mingw only?
If not - can we somewhere write this down to avoid a discussion why not 
to release msvc binaries in the future?

Christian

Hi,

On win32 we support two compilers to compile kde4. Because they're 
binary incompatible, it is not possible to mix mingw and msvc libs and 
executables and we have to take care that the end-user does not get into 
this situation. Also msvc is not supported by the open-source version of 
Qt4.
So my question is - are there any objections against the plan to release 
binaries for mingw only?
If not - can we somewhere write this down to avoid a discussion why not 
to release msvc binaries in the future?

Christian

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Jarosław Staniek | 11 Apr 20:03 2007
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Re: compiler for KDE4/win32 binary packages

Christian Ehrlicher said the following, On 2007-04-11 19:50:
> Hi,
> 
> On win32 we support two compilers to compile kde4. Because they're 
> binary incompatible, it is not possible to mix mingw and msvc libs and 
> executables and we have to take care that the end-user does not get into 
> this situation. Also msvc is not supported by the open-source version of 
> Qt4.
> So my question is - are there any objections against the plan to release 
> binaries for mingw only?
> If not - can we somewhere write this down to avoid a discussion why not 
> to release msvc binaries in the future?

Maybe a note on techbase.kde.org and on kdelibs.com?

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