Josef Spillner | 1 Aug 18:12 2007
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[kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

Hello,

I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some news 
on pro-linux.de:
iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
http://italc.sourceforge.net/

It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.

I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also lists 
edu distros.

Josef
Jos Poortvliet | 1 Aug 18:29 2007
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Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

On 8/1/07, Josef Spillner <spillner <at> kde.org> wrote:

Hello,

I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some news
on pro-linux.de:
iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
http://italc.sourceforge.net/

Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This might not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use nor depend on KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM configuration... 

It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.

I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also lists
edu distros.

That's a good idea. Imho, each KDE project should have a wiki... Techbase is... technical. This stuff belongs as close to the projects as possible.

Josef


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Jeremy Whiting | 1 Aug 18:36 2007

Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

On Wednesday 01 August 2007 10:29:59 am Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On 8/1/07, Josef Spillner <spillner <at> kde.org> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some
> > news
> > on pro-linux.de:
> > iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
> > http://italc.sourceforge.net/
>
> Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This might
> not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use nor depend on
> KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM configuration...
>
> It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.
>
> > I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also
> > lists
> > edu distros.
>
> That's a good idea. Imho, each KDE project should have a wiki... Techbase
> is... technical. This stuff belongs as close to the projects as possible.
>
> Josef

It is Qt 4 based... so the linux client is close to being a kde app ;) 
http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Requirements

Jeremy
Don Balentine | 1 Aug 18:52 2007
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Re: : Interesting project: iTALC

>>> Jeremy Whiting <jeremy <at> scitools.com> 8/1/2007 12:36 pm >>>
On Wednesday 01 August 2007 10:29:59 am Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On 8/1/07, Josef Spillner <spillner <at> kde.org> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some
> > news
> > on pro-linux.de:
> > iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
> > http://italc.sourceforge.net/ 
>
> Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This might
> not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use nor depend on
> KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM configuration...
>
> It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.
>
> > I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also
> > lists
> > edu distros.
>
> That's a good idea. Imho, each KDE project should have a wiki... Techbase
> is... technical. This stuff belongs as close to the projects as possible.
>
> Josef
>
>It is Qt 4 based... so the linux client is close to being a kde app ;) 
> http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Requirements 
>
> Jeremy

I've been running iTALC for about 2 years.  We run both the master and client under KDE.  I know it runs under
other desktops as well.  It's a great tool for schools to use.
Eric Krüse | 1 Aug 20:14 2007
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[kde-edu]: Programme for Teachers

I mentioned this on the IRC channel just reposting it
here for documentary purposes, but one thing that all
distros aimed at schools are lacking is a very
important sort of programme for the teachers. I am
known in my area for sending letters about once a
month aimed at switching schools over to open source
software. One of the main reasons why I have not found
any converts is the fact that there is no programme
for teachers to track grades and behaviour. I believe
this would greatly enhances KDEEdu's chance in winning
against the competition. This with Kiosktool updated
for KDE4 could be a great thing.

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jos | 2 Aug 18:08 2007
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Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

Now THAT's more interesting. We want testemonies, as many as we can ;-)

So any more information you can give would be great!

On 8/1/07, Don Balentine <dbalentine <at> ewsc.k12.in.us> wrote:
> >>> Jeremy Whiting <jeremy <at> scitools.com> 8/1/2007 12:36 pm >>>
> On Wednesday 01 August 2007 10:29:59 am Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On 8/1/07, Josef Spillner <spillner <at> kde.org> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some
> > > news
> > > on pro-linux.de:
> > > iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
> > > http://italc.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This might
> > not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use nor depend
> on
> > KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM configuration...
> >
> > It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.
> >
> > > I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also
> > > lists
> > > edu distros.
> >
> > That's a good idea. Imho, each KDE project should have a wiki... Techbase
> > is... technical. This stuff belongs as close to the projects as possible.
> >
> > Josef
> >
> >It is Qt 4 based... so the linux client is close to being a kde app ;)
> > http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Requirements
> >
> > Jeremy
>
> I've been running iTALC for about 2 years.  We run both the master and
> client under KDE.  I know it runs under other desktops as well.  It's a
> great tool for schools to use.
>
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Don Balentine | 2 Aug 19:31 2007
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Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

I'm more than happy to share my experiences with it. About two years ago the state of Indiana started a
project call ACCESS.  The basis of the project was to provide 1 computer per student in each classroom.  The
school I work for setup five classrooms of 30 machines each.  Each workstation runs linux with KDE.  

I only mention the project because after I stumbled across iTALC I began spreading the word across the
state.  Now atleast 10 schools use the software and many more are looking to add it.  Our teachers now insist
on having it.  With 30 computers in a regular classroom, management is a huge part of the classroom.  iTALC
allows the teacher to lock the workstations as well as monitor the students activity during the class period.

If there is any specific information you would like to know, feel free to ask.  I can also speak with some
teachers and see if they will write a bit about their experiences with iTALC.  Hope that helps.

>>> <jos <at> mijnkamer.nl> 8/2/2007 12:08 pm >>>
Now THAT's more interesting. We want testemonies, as many as we can ;-)

So any more information you can give would be great!

On 8/1/07, Don Balentine <dbalentine <at> ewsc.k12.in.us> wrote:
> >>> Jeremy Whiting <jeremy <at> scitools.com> 8/1/2007 12:36 pm >>>
> On Wednesday 01 August 2007 10:29:59 am Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On 8/1/07, Josef Spillner <spillner <at> kde.org> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some
> > > news
> > > on pro-linux.de:
> > > iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
> > > http://italc.sourceforge.net/ 
> >
> > Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This might
> > not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use nor depend
> on
> > KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM configuration...
> >
> > It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.
> >
> > > I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also
> > > lists
> > > edu distros.
> >
> > That's a good idea. Imho, each KDE project should have a wiki... Techbase
> > is... technical. This stuff belongs as close to the projects as possible.
> >
> > Josef
> >
> >It is Qt 4 based... so the linux client is close to being a kde app ;)
> > http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Requirements 
> >
> > Jeremy
>
> I've been running iTALC for about 2 years.  We run both the master and
> client under KDE.  I know it runs under other desktops as well.  It's a
> great tool for schools to use.
>
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
> kde-edu <at> mail.kde.org 
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu 
>
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Ben Crawford | 2 Aug 21:31 2007
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Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

This software looks very interesting.  I have convinced my school to add it to the list of monitoring programs to test before we decide on which solution we pick.

We are currently a windows network, but I have been pushing a Windows/Linux dual boot and one of the issues that came up was monitoring students who may be in different operating systems.

It will be a few weeks before we start testing.  I will post our experiences with this software after we put it through its paces.

Ben

----- Original Message ----
From: Don Balentine <dbalentine <at> ewsc.k12.in.us>
To: kde-edu <at> kde.org
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 5:31:29 AM
Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

I'm more than happy to share my experiences with it. About two years ago the state of Indiana started a project call ACCESS.  The basis of the project was to provide 1 computer per student in each classroom.  The school I work for setup five classrooms of 30 machines each.  Each workstation runs linux with KDE.  

I only mention the project because after I stumbled across iTALC I began spreading the word across the state.  Now atleast 10 schools use the software and many more are looking to add it.  Our teachers now insist on having it.  With 30 computers in a regular classroom, management is a huge part of the classroom.  iTALC allows the teacher to lock the workstations as well as monitor the students activity during the class period.

If there is any specific information you would like to know, feel free to ask.  I can also speak with some teachers and see if they will write a bit about their experiences with iTALC.  Hope that helps.

>>> <jos <at> mijnkamer.nl> 8/2/2007 12:08 pm >>>
Now THAT's more interesting. We want testemonies, as many as we can ;-)

So any more information you can give would be great!

On 8/1/07, Don Balentine <dbalentine <at> ewsc.k12.in.us> wrote:
> >>> Jeremy Whiting <jeremy <at> scitools.com> 8/1/2007 12:36 pm >>>
> On Wednesday 01 August 2007 10:29:59 am Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On 8/1/07, Josef Spillner <spillner <at> kde.org> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I just stumbled over the following Qt4-based project while reading some
> > > news
> > > on pro-linux.de:
> > > iTALC - Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers
> > > http://italc.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This might
> > not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use nor depend
> on
> > KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM configuration...
> >
> > It's in active use in a school in Saxony according to the author.
> >
> > > I suggest having a page on edu.kde.org which lists such tools and also
> > > lists
> > > edu distros.
> >
> > That's a good idea. Imho, each KDE project should have a wiki... Techbase
> > is... technical. This stuff belongs as close to the projects as possible.
> >
> > Josef
> >
> >It is Qt 4 based... so the linux client is close to being a kde app ;)
> > http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Requirements
> >
> > Jeremy
>
> I've been running iTALC for about 2 years.  We run both the master and
> client under KDE.  I know it runs under other desktops as well.  It's a
> great tool for schools to use.
>
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
> kde-edu <at> mail.kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>
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RalfGesellensetter | 2 Aug 21:47 2007
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Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

Am Mittwoch 01 August 2007 18:29 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This
> might not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use
> nor depend on KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM
> configuration...

Dear Jos,

I know the author of iTalc (and LMMS) for two years now, and also iTalc. 
It was developed under Qt3, mainly for KDE, in the first place. Only 
recently, with Qt4, the software could be ported to other platforms.

Tobias (the author) knows the benefits of the GPL, but his marketing 
(and earnings) might focus on non-linux settings (unfortunateley still 
the majority in schools).

iTalc is next to perfect, and also used with many Skolelinux/Debian-Edu 
KDE desktops in Germany. 

BTW: Anybody joining FrOSCon in Cologne (St.Augustin) August 25/26?

Regards
Ralf
jos | 3 Aug 05:48 2007
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Re: [kde-edu]: Interesting project: iTALC

On 8/2/07, RalfGesellensetter <rgx <at> gmx.de> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 01 August 2007 18:29 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> > Hmmm, I had to look a long time to find ANY reference to linux. This
> > might not be the best project to advertise KDE with, it doesn't use
> > nor depend on KDE, and does only mention it when talking about KDM
> > configuration...
>
> Dear Jos,
>
> I know the author of iTalc (and LMMS) for two years now, and also iTalc.
> It was developed under Qt3, mainly for KDE, in the first place. Only
> recently, with Qt4, the software could be ported to other platforms.
>
> Tobias (the author) knows the benefits of the GPL, but his marketing
> (and earnings) might focus on non-linux settings (unfortunateley still
> the majority in schools).
>
> iTalc is next to perfect, and also used with many Skolelinux/Debian-Edu
> KDE desktops in Germany.

I stand corrected ;-)
And I have a question.
We (kde marketing ppl) are looking for numbers. How much KDE is out
there... I'll reply here with the marketinglist as cc, see if they're
interested. Maybe trying to figure out a good guess of how many
Skolelinux desktops are out there. On their site is a list of 151
registered schools using it, interesting, but how many did not
register?

 <at> Don: thank you for the information. And sorry also... If there is
anything we can do for iTalc in the area of promotion - let us know.
We could announce new versions, do an interview for the dot, stuff
like that.

> BTW: Anybody joining FrOSCon in Cologne (St.Augustin) August 25/26?
>
> Regards
> Ralf
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