what is KdE on cygwin

Hi,

first of all i would admit i am not a regular user of linux therefore
not to familiar with the terms. i know some unix comands to help me do
the things i need to do to use Unix/linux. i installed Cygwin on my XP
system to emulate solaris system so that i can run unix software from
my windows machine.

my questions are as follows
Q.1 other than emulating a remote unix system  what really a user
should ge by installing cygwin.

Q.2. Can i install unix software in windows machine if cygwin is
installed?  and run it as if the software is installed in a remote
unix machine and i am emulating it?

yours answers will be highly appreciated. thank you.

AJ

Re: what is KdE on cygwin

Asad Jamil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> first of all i would admit i am not a regular user of linux therefore
> not to familiar with the terms. i know some unix comands to help me do
> the things i need to do to use Unix/linux. i installed Cygwin on my XP
> system to emulate solaris system so that i can run unix software from
> my windows machine.
>
> my questions are as follows
> Q.1 other than emulating a remote unix system what really a user
> should get by installing cygwin.

Speaking for myself, I like cygwin so that I have all of those tools
locally on a windows box.

> Q.2. Can i install unix software in windows machine if cygwin is
> installed?  and run it as if the software is installed in a remote
> unix machine and i am emulating it?

Additionally, I've used cygwin as the basis for installing KDE and then
installing and running various graphical applications as well. However,
my favorite is based on cueTea (a free port of the GPL's version of QT)
formerly known as qtwin. In this case Scribus:
http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Installing_Scribus_on_Win32

Which by way of example involves installing cygwin as a requirement.

Hope that helps clarify a little bit,

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Re: what is KdE on cygwin

steven <at> poiema.org wrote:
> Additionally, I've used cygwin as the basis for installing KDE and then
> installing and running various graphical applications as well. However,
> my favorite is based on cueTea (a free port of the GPL's version of QT)
> formerly known as qtwin. In this case Scribus:
> http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Installing_Scribus_on_Win32

Have you tried the qt3 package now in the Cygwin net release, together
with my build of scribus?

ftp://sunsite.dk/projects/cygwinports/release/KDE/scribus/


Yaakov
Cygwin Ports

RE: qt4 win32-msvc2005 manifests

I am sorry, I accidently hit the send button before.

Have you ever tried to use the Qt4 DLLs generated by the Visual Studio 2005
makefiles?
Visual Studio 2005 introduced the generation of so-called manifests, wherein
the path to the required visual studio dll (e.g. MSVCR80.dll) is specified.
These manifests have a similar name and reside in the same directory as the
DLLs (e.g. QtCore4.dll.manifest for QtCore4.dll).

However, if a DLL is called/used by any program, it needs to have this
manifest information embedded. Otherwise you will just get an error message,
saying that the application has failed to start, since MSVCR80.dll was not
found.
The Qt makefiles for Visual Studio 2005 as provided by Qt/Win currently do
not embed this manifest information automatically. I had to embed it
manually by calling e.g.
mt /manifest QtCore4.dll.manifest /outputresource:QtCore4.dll;#2
for every Qt DLL after a successful build.

For more information on that topic you can refer to
http://www.grimes.demon.co.uk/workshops/fusWSThirteen.htm#unmanaged_versioni
ng
or
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235542(en-US,VS.80).aspx

Do you think that it is possible to generate Qt4 Makefiles for Visual Studio
2005, which automatically embed the manifests into the DLLs?
(How such a makefile would look like is described here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235591.aspx)

Thanks a lot for your thoughts!

Best regards,
Marco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marco Feuerstein [mailto:feuerste <at> cs.tum.edu] 
> Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 08:59
> To: 'kde-cygwin <at> kde.org'
> Subject: qt4 win32-msvc2005 manifests
> 
> Hi,
> 
> we are successfully using the qt4 visual studio 2005 build using your
> supplied patch (after some additional work...)
> Therefore, I have one feature request:
> The DLLs built with the generated visual studio 2005 makefiles, do not
> include 
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> Marco Feuerstein
> 
> Chair for Computer Aided Medical Procedures & Augmented Reality (I-16)
> Department of Informatics
> Technische Universität München
> Boltzmannstr. 3
> 85748 Garching b. München
> Germany
> Tel: +49 89 289-17077
> Fax: +49 89 289-17059
> http://campar.in.tum.de/Main/MarcoFeuerstein
> 

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qt4 win32-msvc2005 manifests

Hi,

we are successfully using the qt4 visual studio 2005 build using your
supplied patch (after some additional work...)
Therefore, I have one feature request:
The DLLs built with the generated visual studio 2005 makefiles, do not
include 

---
Marco Feuerstein

Chair for Computer Aided Medical Procedures & Augmented Reality (I-16)
Department of Informatics
Technische Universität München
Boltzmannstr. 3
85748 Garching b. München
Germany
Tel: +49 89 289-17077
Fax: +49 89 289-17059
http://campar.in.tum.de/Main/MarcoFeuerstein

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Re: qt4 win32-msvc2005 manifests

Marco Feuerstein schrieb:
> I am sorry, I accidently hit the send button before.
> 
> Have you ever tried to use the Qt4 DLLs generated by the Visual Studio 2005
> makefiles?
> Visual Studio 2005 introduced the generation of so-called manifests, wherein
> the path to the required visual studio dll (e.g. MSVCR80.dll) is specified.
> These manifests have a similar name and reside in the same directory as the
> DLLs (e.g. QtCore4.dll.manifest for QtCore4.dll).
> 
> However, if a DLL is called/used by any program, it needs to have this
> manifest information embedded. Otherwise you will just get an error message,
> saying that the application has failed to start, since MSVCR80.dll was not
> found.
> The Qt makefiles for Visual Studio 2005 as provided by Qt/Win currently do
> not embed this manifest information automatically. I had to embed it
> manually by calling e.g.
> mt /manifest QtCore4.dll.manifest /outputresource:QtCore4.dll;#2
> for every Qt DLL after a successful build.
> 
> For more information on that topic you can refer to
> http://www.grimes.demon.co.uk/workshops/fusWSThirteen.htm#unmanaged_versioni
> ng
> or
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235542(en-US,VS.80).aspx
> 
> 
> Do you think that it is possible to generate Qt4 Makefiles for Visual Studio
> 2005, which automatically embed the manifests into the DLLs?
> (How such a makefile would look like is described here:
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235591.aspx)
> 
> Thanks a lot for your thoughts!

I had this already as a feature request for 4.0 but discarded it because
trolltech did not implement this - at least I found no hint for a
presence of this feature.
But since I hit the same problems and need qt4 to compile kdelibs4 with
msvc2005 I maybe should take a look on this.
Thx for your links.

Christian

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Problem starting KDE on CygWin

Hi,

I'm trying to install KDE 3.4 on CygWin. I've installed all the need packages, rebased and done
every step mentioned on readme. When I try to start up KDE, I get a black screen and the following
message on terminal:

WARNING: Problem deleting stale lockfile /opt/kde3.4/home/share/config/kpersonal
izerrc.lock

I've tried to delete this file, but nothing happens, I still receive the same message. What
can I do?

Thanks,

Thiago Takehara

Re: Problem starting KDE on CygWin

Thiago Takehara schrieb:

>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to install KDE 3.4 on CygWin. I've installed all the need packages, rebased and done
>every step mentioned on readme. When I try to start up KDE, I get a black screen and the following
>message on terminal:
>
>WARNING: Problem deleting stale lockfile /opt/kde3.4/home/share/config/kpersonal
>izerrc.lock
>
>I've tried to delete this file, but nothing happens, I still receive the same message. What
>can I do?
>
>  
>
Are you using a fat32 file system? It was reported that ntfs does not 
have this problem.

Ralf