Dirk Mueller | 1 Jul 2003 01:14
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Re: build system f*ckage aka, development, or lack thereof

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Alexander Kellett wrote:

> ../libkonq/.libs/libkonq.so: undefined reference to `non-virtual thunk [nv:-40] to KonqFavIconMgr::interfaces()'

I don't get these errors. do you use --enable-final?

did you update your admin dir and reran make -f Makefile.cvs etc?

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Dirk Mueller | 1 Jul 2003 01:11
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Re: how do I fix this header conflict?

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Benjamin Reed wrote:

> Well it depends on how long acinclude.m4.in is at any given time and what
> you're building (kdelibs, kdebase, etc.) because it doesn't fail until
> you're past line 32768 in configure (autoconf tries to inject the current
> configure line number into tests by using the "#line" definition).

Yes, I know that. I was actually asking which tests still fail when 
replacing -pedantic-errors with "-Wmissing-prototype -Werror". 

IIRC the linenumber > 32768 thing is only C89 pedantic. However, when we 
tried to make the configure checks using C99 semantics we ran into many 
platform specific breakages (FreeBSD and Solaris being par-excellence 
examples of broken system headers). 

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Aaron J. Seigo | 1 Jul 2003 01:07

Re: admin patch for mac os x


On Monday 30 June 2003 02:48, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> That's for people who use the mimetree viewer and therefore don't want
> the attachment icons in the message itself.

on my TODO i have a note that when we get a bit closer to the KDE 3.2 feature 
freeze i'm supposed to clean up the attachment and header options a bit.. 
hopefully we'll have no more than two modes for each (and still satisfy 
everyone =)

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Maks Orlovich | 1 Jul 2003 01:25
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Re: qt-copy/patches

> This seems like a great idea! A perfect example of a patch that would be
> appropriate to be placed here (only if it hasn't already been included in
> QT) would the patch that Gentoo has that keeps QT Designer from crashing
> when loading the KDE widget set.

Are you sure that workarounds for glibc bugs belong there?

Ingo Klöcker | 1 Jul 2003 01:49
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Re: admin patch for mac os x

On Tuesday 01 July 2003 01:07, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday 30 June 2003 02:48, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > That's for people who use the mimetree viewer and therefore don't
> > want the attachment icons in the message itself.
>
> on my TODO i have a note that when we get a bit closer to the KDE 3.2
> feature freeze i'm supposed to clean up the attachment and header
> options a bit.. hopefully we'll have no more than two modes for each
> (and still satisfy everyone =)

I don't know what you have in mind but I don't think that two modes will 
be enough for the headers unless we make the header fully customizable 
via CSS or whatever. Our users are currently using all modes (probably 
except "all headers"). Unless we have a better reason than "too many 
options confuse new users" there's no way that we disappoint our 
current users by removing options.

Regards,
Ingo

Aaron J. Seigo | 1 Jul 2003 02:25

Re: admin patch for mac os x


On Monday 30 June 2003 05:49, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> current users by removing options.

not so much removing options, but providing more natural access to options, 
removing redundant options, making the interface more pliable rather than  
providing a limited number of hardcoded "guesses" at what people want. 

both the header and the attachments options suffer from too many similar, 
unflexible options. i actually discussed this at some length leading up to 
3.1 on kmail-devel IIRC; even did some mock-ups.. anyways... we can talk more 
about it when the time comes, and on kmail-devel =)

suffice it to say for now that i have no intention of dissapointing or pissing 
off users; rather i feel that when contrasted with much of the elegance of 
kmail's interface there are a few areas that really stand out as 
dissapointments. header and attachment options are two such areas.

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Benjamin Reed | 1 Jul 2003 04:22
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Re: how do I fix this header conflict?

> Yes, I know that. I was actually asking which tests still fail when
> replacing -pedantic-errors with "-Wmissing-prototype -Werror".

Ah, I see.  At the very least, gethostname, initgroups, and a number of
the kde_cv_proto_* kdefakes checks that have darwin-equivalents (mkstemp
and the like).

> platform specific breakages (FreeBSD and Solaris being par-excellence
> examples of broken system headers).

Just wait, OSX keeps merging more of FreeBSD into their userland (on top
of a bunch of already-existing ancient NeXTisms), maybe it'll get worse. 
<grin>

Is the patch I sent at least a suitable workaround?  It seems like it
would at least minimize the damage.  I could also just wrap the CXXFLAGS
assignment in a "case $host in" if you want to be sure I don't mess things
up for other platforms that are chugging along with what exists...

Dirk Mueller | 1 Jul 2003 04:37
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Re: how do I fix this header conflict?

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Benjamin Reed wrote:

> Ah, I see.  At the very least, gethostname, initgroups, and a number of
> the kde_cv_proto_* kdefakes checks that have darwin-equivalents (mkstemp
> and the like).

Ok, can I see the config.log entries of those tests that unexpectedly fail, 
please?

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Alexander Kellett | 1 Jul 2003 08:14
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Re: build system f*ckage aka, development, or lack thereof

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Dirk Mueller wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Alexander Kellett wrote:
> > ../libkonq/.libs/libkonq.so: undefined reference to `non-virtual thunk [nv:-40] to KonqFavIconMgr::interfaces()'
> 
> I don't get these errors. do you use --enable-final?
> did you update your admin dir and reran make -f Makefile.cvs etc?

no enable-final, have rerun .cvs, have cvs up'ed all of kdelibs 
and kdebase including admin dirs of course, no luck. shall make 
clean and start again from scratch today i rather stupidily had 
a path change in my ccache exe's and have thus been running without
it for the last months.. argggghhh :)

Alex

Alexander Kellett | 1 Jul 2003 08:15
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Re: qt-copy/patches

On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 07:25:55PM -0400, Maks Orlovich wrote:
> > This seems like a great idea! A perfect example of a patch that would be
> > appropriate to be placed here (only if it hasn't already been included in
> > QT) would the patch that Gentoo has that keeps QT Designer from crashing
> > when loading the KDE widget set.
> 
> Are you sure that workarounds for glibc bugs belong there?

seems like unsafe would be fine to me. i'd also use such a patch.

Alex


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