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Daniel Stone | 1 Mar 2003 01:59
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Re: KDE Shirts Available

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 06:18:35PM +0100, Eva Brucherseifer scrawled:
> On Thursday 27 February 2003 06:17, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 07:38:17PM +0100, Eva Brucherseifer scrawled:
> > > The KDE Promo Team and Kernelconcepts are offering you shirts featuring
> > > your favourite desktop KDE. The shirts are dark blue and show an
> > > embroidered 4-color blue K gear at the size of 5.5cm. They are available
> > > as polo shirts, T-Shirts and girlie shirts. Polo shirts targeted esp. at
> > > KDE members who do promotional work e.g. on expos.
> > >
> > > price for KDE contributors only:
> > > -----------------------------------
> > > T-Shirt/Girlie-Shirt	15.00 EUR
> > > Poloshirt 			13.50 EUR
> >
> > Hi Eva!
> > What's the shipping rate to Australia, and international orders in
> > general?
> 
> It's the same as for the US (I verified this and already changed the form). If 
> you order more than one shirt, it is possible, that the price is lower than 
> the one given, esp. for countries outside the EU.
> Aren't there several KDE people in Australia? And maybe there are some LUGs 
> around who are interested. 

There are three (soon to be four) KDE people in Australia, but my LUG
is, sadly, the sort of rabid GNOME LUG.

Daniel, Linux Users of Victoria Committee Member

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Daniel Stone | 1 Mar 2003 02:08
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Re: contributions (well, sort of)

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 09:53:04AM +1100, Ian Reinhart Geiser scrawled:
> Oh how i long for a doenner...    if you ever figure out how to get one from 
> .de to .us that would rock :)

Doner, as in the spicy lamb on a stick that goes into souvlakis/kebabs?

> that and a magnum

Dude, we even have Magnums *here*.

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Ian Reinhart Geiser | 1 Mar 2003 03:20
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Re: contributions (well, sort of)


On Saturday 01 March 2003 12:08 pm, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 09:53:04AM +1100, Ian Reinhart Geiser scrawled:
> > Oh how i long for a doenner...    if you ever figure out how to get one
> > from .de to .us that would rock :)
>
> Doner, as in the spicy lamb on a stick that goes into souvlakis/kebabs?
yes, but they are only really really good in the turkish part of Berlin... i 
think the south east part...  
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> > that and a magnum
>
> Dude, we even have Magnums *here*.
Yeah for some reason .us is the only country that Good Humor (the name of the 
brand in america) that dosent have mangnums... pisser because they have them 
in .mx :P

odd country i live in indeed...

-ian reinhart geiser

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Scott Wheeler | 1 Mar 2003 07:59
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Re: contributions (well, sort of)

On Friday 28 February 2003 23:53, Ian Reinhart Geiser wrote:
> Oh how i long for a doenner...    if you ever figure out how to get one from 
> .de to .us that would rock :)

Send me your mailing address and I'll drop one in the mail for you; I can pick 
one up 100 m from here.  Onions and red cabbage?  

:-P

-Scott

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Scott Wheeler | 1 Mar 2003 08:51
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Re: KToolBar question

On Saturday 01 March 2003 0:19, Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> I modified KToolBar to only save settings if the settings have actually 
> changed.  From all my tests the code works just as it should without 
breaking 
> anything, but KToolBar is not the most comprehendable bit of code and so I 
> would like it is someone could take a look before I commit it.

Just a note; please use 'diff -u' in the future.  I'm attaching my 
(recommended) .cvsrc.  If you have that you can just do a 'cvs diff' and it 
will show all of your changes in a format that we won't flame over.  :-)

In this format, there's not context and it's difficult to read.

Now, moving on to the technical content -- what is the motivation for this?  
Has profiling shown that this is a bottleneck or a significant speed hit?  
Are you trying to speed up shut down time; is there a need for this?  Does 
this make the code more understandable?

Forget not:

"We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: 
premature optimization is the root of all evil." -Donald Knuth

Cheers,

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Alex Zepeda | 1 Mar 2003 09:44
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Kudos on the release of KDE 3.1

It's been a good two or three months since I've been able to actually
build arts+kdelibs+kdebase to completion.  So imagine my suprise when this
latest release is by far the best release of KDE I've ever used (rather,
by release I mean the cvs update I did the other night).

Konqueror is in general far more responsive than I ever remember it or kfm
being (I'm still using a P2-450 with 128mb ram and a horribly slow
debugging kernel).

Font anti-aliasing works (for whatever reason Qt has some trouble with Xft
and Xft2 being installed).

The documentation works (this is the first time I've ever seen the docu
work locally).

If only gcc could improve like this.  Mumblemumble Apple should have used
TenDRA instead.  Oh well, different list.

:)

- alex
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Scott Wheeler | 1 Mar 2003 12:04
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Re: JuK -> KDE CVS

On Friday 28 February 2003 19:31, Charles Samuels wrote:

> Wouldn't it make more sense to make it a noatun plugin?

Possibly.  As I'm sure you recall I was the first one who pondered the 
possibility of this in our conversation a few weeks back on IRC.  We agreed 
that Noatun's plugin API currently can't do what JuK needs and that you might 
be willing to change this in the future.  (more later in the email)

> Then you'd get effects, equalizer, visualization, and various plugins for 
> free.

Well, in their current state these aren't useful in JuK.  I need these to be 
available as ordinary widgets that can be "plugged in" to the playlist GUI.  
As far as I know this isn't currently possible.

And there is the issue that most people simply don't care, but well, that's 
not terribly important.

> And we could implement plugin-profiles in noatun, create a [Kicker K-Menu] 
> item just for JuK.

Nice idea.  Again, I don't think this is currently possible.

> All of this while having the exact same UI.

Again, not currently possible.  When it is, as I've said before, I'm open to 
this possibility.

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Stefan Gehn | 1 Mar 2003 09:52
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Re: JuK -> KDE CVS

Moin,

On Freitag Februar 28 2003 20:13, Piotr Szymanski wrote:
> Charles Samuels (Friday 28 of February 2003 20:01)
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> > Someone uses it? :)
> > I wrote it, and don't use it...
>
> I use noatun and never knew it had an equalizer.

Shame on you ;)

> I am the only noatuun user in PLD dev team and it kind of loses to
> kmplayer. Sure would like noatun to have new features, but I dont know

kmplayer and noatun are totally different IMO, they serve a different purpose 
(full featured desktop mediaplayer vs. embedded videoplayer). It's a bit like 
comparing noatun and kaboodle.

> where to write. Who is noatuns maintainer anyway?

You just replied to one of his mails ;)
And to enlighten you some more, I'm the one working on that freaky KJöfol 
skinloader :)

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Martijn Klingens | 1 Mar 2003 14:25
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Re: IMPORTANT: VFolder-based KDE menus

On Friday 28 February 2003 01:16, Waldo Bastian wrote:
> - If your application is going to be released for use with KDE 3.2 or newer
> only, it is adviced that you install your menu .desktop file to
> $xdg_appsdir instead of $kde_appsdir/Some/Submenu. Typically it is enough
> to add xdg_apps_DATA = yourdesktopfile.desktop
>
> You mustn't do this if your application is supposed to be used with KDE 3.1
> or older, because these versions of KDE will not look in $xdg_appsdir.

Is there some kind of automake magic possible to do the optimal thing 
depending on the KDE version?

I know that automake supports some kind of conditional processing, but I have 
never tried to actually use it.

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Charles Samuels | 1 Mar 2003 17:15
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Re: JuK -> KDE CVS


On Saturday 01 March 2003 3:04, Scott Wheeler wrote:
> On Friday 28 February 2003 19:31, Charles Samuels wrote:
> > Wouldn't it make more sense to make it a noatun plugin?
>
> Possibly.  As I'm sure you recall I was the first one who pondered the
> possibility of this in our conversation a few weeks back on IRC.  We agreed
> that Noatun's plugin API currently can't do what JuK needs and that you
> might be willing to change this in the future.  (more later in the email)
>
> > Then you'd get effects, equalizer, visualization, and various plugins for
> > free.
>
> Well, in their current state these aren't useful in JuK.  I need these to
> be available as ordinary widgets that can be "plugged in" to the playlist
> GUI. As far as I know this isn't currently possible.
I don't think anyone would complain if a visualization or other plugins were 
floating windows.  I've long been considering making plugins register their 
QWidget *.  Best example of why this would be useful is how a plugin (Young 
Hickory) could traverse that list easily.

Secondly, the effects and equalizer API would let you implement your own GUI 
for the same data as now.  For the equalizer and visualization class, this 
would be the best way to handle it.

>
> And there is the issue that most people simply don't care, but well, that's
> not terribly important.
>
> > And we could implement plugin-profiles in noatun, create a [Kicker
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