Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi Daniel,

On Sun 30 November 2008 00:33:59 Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia wrote:
> Hi David, Artist:
>
> OK, here we go!!!
> (see attachments)
>
> I'll send you the icons in 3 mail messages becouse some times
> i have trubles with my messages attachments, sorry.

These icons are much better. The only thing I would comment on is that the 
32x32 icon against some backgrounds (particularly white or light grey) looks 
as if it its outline is a straight line across the bottom, between the 
clock's feet, so that the feet don't seem separate.

Cheers,
--

-- 
David Jarvie.
KAlarm author and maintainer.
http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm

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Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi David, Artist:

I think you'r referring to the bottom shadow, if we attenuate or eliminate 
it
the clock will appear to be floating just like in the smallest versions and 
we
lose the effect of been "put it over".

Regards

Daniel.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Jarvie" <djarvie <at> kde.org>
To: "Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia" <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>
Cc: <kde-artists <at> kde.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

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Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

On Monday 1 December 2008 13:56, Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia wrote:
> Hi David, Artist:
>
> I think you'r referring to the bottom shadow, if we attenuate or eliminate
> it the clock will appear to be floating just like in the smallest versions
> and we lose the effect of been "put it over".

With some background colours, the legs appear separate and the bottom
shadow looks like a shadow. With other backgrounds, the legs don't appear
distinct from the bottom shadow, and the legs and shadow appear to merge
into a single shape which appears to form a straight line along the bottom
of the icon.

Cheers,
David.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Jarvie" <djarvie <at> kde.org>
> To: "Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia" <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>
> Cc: <kde-artists <at> kde.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

--

-- 
David Jarvie.
KAlarm author & maintainer.
http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm

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Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi David:

I don't know why that's happening, I have done some test with differents 
backgrounds and get it a similar distorsion in white and grays backgrounds.
I'm just using a black solid-to-transparence to get this bottom shadow 
effect. The shadow is a dark (black) trasparent object, and we must get 
identical response, but maybe in this 32x32 version we must eliminate the 
feets shadow and use only the general clock shadow.
I'm sending this test with two versions, the left clock have only the 
general shadow and the other have no either (see attachmet), but in my 
particular opinion, I'll still preferring the clock with the both bottom 
shadows.

Any ones have another idea about this?

Regards,
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Jarvie" <djarvie <at> kde.org>
To: "Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia" <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>
Cc: <kde-artists <at> kde.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

> On Monday 1 December 2008 13:56, Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia wrote:
>> Hi David, Artist:
>>
>> I think you'r referring to the bottom shadow, if we attenuate or 
>> eliminate

Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi Lee O. David, Artist:

I think you must try with this SVG version (see attachment) is a bit less 
shiny, so when we resize them we obtain better border results at different 
background colors.
And, why can't you render the reflections, troubles with my SVG?

Regards,

Daniel.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lee Olson
To: Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia
Cc: David Jarvie ; kde-artists <at> kde.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Would this work? (See Attachment)

- Lee

2008/12/1 Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>

Hi David:

I don't know why that's happening, I have done some test with differents 
backgrounds and get it a similar distorsion in white and grays backgrounds.
I'm just using a black solid-to-transparence to get this bottom shadow 
effect. The shadow is a dark (black) trasparent object, and we must get 

Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Can you supply PNG versions at the different sizes? I preferred your 
(Daniel's) right-hand icon, and Lee's files are promising, although I did 
notice that the reflection had disappeared.

Cheers,
David.

On Tue 2 December 2008 21:09:17 Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia wrote:
> Hi Lee O. David, Artist:
>
> I think you must try with this SVG version (see attachment) is a bit less
> shiny, so when we resize them we obtain better border results at different
> background colors.
> And, why can't you render the reflections, troubles with my SVG?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lee Olson
> To: Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia
> Cc: David Jarvie ; kde-artists <at> kde.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing
>
>
> Would this work? (See Attachment)
>
> - Lee

Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi David:

Well, I'm sending (see attachments) this version at different sizes as you 
wish, from 32x32 to 128x128 without shadows, looks more clear now and that 
likes me, but looks like floating to me, with the current lighting (top 
left) the clock must project shadows in the floor. If we use this "floating" 
icon, and we wants to add a background shadow, then we must change the 
lighting too. :(
Maybe in the smallest versions we can eliminate this effect but in the 
biggers ones we must keep it, that's just my opinion.
By the way, the versions at 16x16 and 22x22 are in a frontal perspective and 
looks good to me, needs to be modificated from his latest version?

Regards

Daniel.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Jarvie" <djarvie <at> kde.org>
To: "Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia" <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>
Cc: <kde-artists <at> kde.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

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Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi Lee, David, Artist:

I'm with you Lee, let's see David's opinion :)

Regards
Daniel.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lee Olson
To: Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia
Cc: David Jarvie ; kde-artists <at> kde.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Daniel,

I agree that keeping the shadows for the larger versions is a good idea 
(32x32 to 128x128). For 22x22 and 16x16, the icon needs to be optimized for 
visibility, so in my opinion, the shadow isn't needed, as it's hard to see 
at that size anyway.

- Lee

2008/12/2 Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>

Hi David:

Well, I'm sending (see attachments) this version at different sizes as you 
wish, from 32x32 to 128x128 without shadows, looks more clear now and that 
likes me, but looks like floating to me, with the current lighting (top 
left) the clock must project shadows in the floor. If we use this "floating" 
icon, and we wants to add a background shadow, then we must change the 
lighting too. :(
Maybe in the smallest versions we can eliminate this effect but in the 
biggers ones we must keep it, that's just my opinion.
By the way, the versions at 16x16 and 22x22 are in a frontal perspective and 
looks good to me, needs to be modificated from his latest version?

Regards

Daniel.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jarvie" <djarvie <at> kde.org>
To: "Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia" <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>
Cc: <kde-artists <at> kde.org>

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

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Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

Hi David, Artist:

Sorry, I'll be without mail from Friday 5 to Monday 8, but anyway I'll be 
working on :)
I'd done this version just playing with The GIMP, it's gold, did you like 
it?

Regards,
Daniel.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Jarvie" <djarvie <at> kde.org>
To: "Daniel Ramón Fernández Macia" <cl8swt <at> frcscu.ciges.inf.cu>
Cc: <kde-artists <at> kde.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [Bug 164118] 22px kalarm.png needs redrawing

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