James Robey | 18 May 2013 23:08
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[BULK] Re: [BULK] A new "laszlo-like", view-based, pure HTML system: Nametag.

Hello All,

	The web site continues to work for myself and others but apparently Amazon's CloudFront Service is
experiencing regional failures. For instance, this site has always worked on the East Coast and Colorado
and Texas, but i've seen intermittent failures in California and elsewhere.

	I will switch services, and try again. 

On May 17, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Blyth, Mike wrote:

> Sounds interesting, but http://www.nametagworks.com/examples.html gives me a "Sorry, invalid
request" message.
> 
> 
> --Mike Blyth
> 
> From: laszlo-user-bounces@...
[mailto:laszlo-user-bounces@...] On Behalf Of James Robey
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:51 AM
> To: OpenLaszlo user community discussion
> Subject: [Laszlo-user] [BULK] A new "laszlo-like", view-based, pure HTML system: Nametag.
> Importance: Low
> 
> Hello,
> 
>            Those of you still on this list realize that the Laszlo Runtime promoted good coding habits and flexible
object oriented behavior, purely in the DOM. For those of us who enjoyed that view-based OO model, there
was nothing like it.
> 
>            My name is James Robey, and I used to be a Laszlo developer. For the past year (and in less direct ways, 6 years
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James Robey | 16 May 2013 08:50
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[BULK] A new "laszlo-like", view-based, pure HTML system: Nametag.

Hello, 

Those of you still on this list realize that the Laszlo Runtime promoted good coding habits and flexible object oriented behavior, purely in the DOM. For those of us who enjoyed that view-based OO model, there was nothing like it. 

My name is James Robey, and I used to be a Laszlo developer. For the past year (and in less direct ways, 6 years before today), i've been developing a runtime in HTML that duplicates every good feature (in my opinion) from Laszlo, but with a few new twists that completely blow the lid off of the concept of "Object-Oriented HTML", and in doing so, may be a good replacement for teams wanting to keep a componetized, view-based framework while simultaneously keeping ALL of the best features of HTML/CSS/Javascript intact. Sound too good to be true?

Decide for yourself, check out http://nametagworks.com/examples.html

It was made public for the first time today (May 15th 2013) despite being largely finished for months. I wrote a lot of personal software on-top of this working out issues you won't have to. In the coming days, i'll put downloads (already finished, code-wise) up for everyone to use. It is my pleasure to tell this community about it a little bit before everyone else.

Yours in good, fun coding,

James Robey
President, DOM Algebra, LLC





malay_bhr | 28 Feb 2013 04:56
Augusto Callejas | 17 Jan 2013 21:17
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[BULK] startExec is not a function

Hi-

I'm seeing a lot of errors with this message in my OL app:

  TypeError: $3.startExec is not a function

I found this which seems relevant:

  http://jira.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-5270

It mentions:

Discussion with Max revealed that we should pass in "history: false" when we call
Lz.swfEmbed( ... ) for a live example, so that we don't irritate the history
mechanism. This makes hundreds of firebug errors go away on every page of the
developer's guide.
What are the implications of passing history: false to the javascript embed command? Is there documentation on what other arguments that command takes?

Augusto.


Kevin Meixner | 29 Dec 2012 19:25

Re: Laszlo-user Digest, Vol 98, Issue 1

On 12/18/2012 3:00 PM, laszlo-user-request@... wrote:
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> Today's Topics:
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>     1. Re: The silence in this mailing list reminds me of an old
>        Monty Pythons song... (Steven Cho)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:44:29 +0100
> From: Steven Cho<st.c.cho@...>
> Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] The silence in this mailing list reminds me
> 	of an old Monty Pythons song...
> To: Raju Bitter<r.bitter.mailinglists@...>
> Cc: laszlo-user<laszlo-user@...>
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> Yes, this project sure looks dead. Well, the same fate as Adobe Flex.
> Any technology or framework which has not made the switch to HTML5
> early enough is dead by now.
>
> Stevie
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Ironically, OpenLaszlo did make the switch to HTML5 (formerly called 
DHTML) long before HTML5 was even on Adobe's radar, but unfortunately, 
when OpenLaszlo was passed to the new owners they did not do anything 
with it. They were sitting on a gold mine, a nearly completed 
cutting-edge HTML5 development framework, but they did not understand 
that. Sticking with the movie theme, it reminds me of the last scene 
from Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark where the Ark is put in a crate in 
some huge warehouse somewhere by some "Top Men" to be lost forever again 
and Indiana Jones saying "Fools. Bureaucratic fools!... ...They don't 
know what they've got there."

Kevin

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Raju Bitter | 16 Nov 2012 00:49

The silence in this mailing list reminds me of an old Monty Pythons song...

OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead!
Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
[clang] Bring out your dead!
DEVELOPER: Here's one -- nine pence.
DEAD PROJECT: I'm not dead!
OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: What?
DEVELOPER: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.
DEAD PROJECT: I'm not dead!
OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead!
DEVELOPER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PROJECT: I'm not!
OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: He isn't.
DEVELOPER: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
DEAD PROJECT: I'm getting better!
DEVELOPER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a
moment.
OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's
against
regulations.
DEAD PROJECT: I don't want to go in the cart!
...

Kevin Meixner | 24 Oct 2012 21:11

Re: Laszlo-user Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5

On 10/24/2012 3:00 PM, laszlo-user-request@... wrote:
> Send Laszlo-user mailing list submissions to
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>     1. Re: OpenLaszlo 5.0, mobile support, components,	Java 7
>        support (Steven Cho)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:14:17 +0200
> From: Steven Cho<st.c.cho@...>
> Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] OpenLaszlo 5.0, mobile support, components,
> 	Java 7 support
> To: amy@...
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> Thanks a lot for your answer, Amy.
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Amy Muntz<amy@...>  wrote:
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> I can share what I know. Laszlo is still fixing bugs in trunk (the current
>> development branch) which means they are funding OpenLaszlo at some level.
>> Their focus is DHTML right now, and SWF as their are regressions. Some
>> recent changes include an overhaul of the click-div code to improve
>> performance for all browsers (except IE9) as well as a number of very subtle
>> focus issues involving input text and the dojo RTE. That said, they are
>> fixing a number of browser-specific bugs in those areas.
> That means Laszlo is only maintaining OpenLaszlo right now, and will
> not add new features to the platform? Probably fixing bugs required to
> be fixed for Webtop projects?
>
>> They are not focused on the web site or management of the open source
>> project, but the code and the changes they are making are still available
>> and ongoing.
> For the past two months the developer mailing lists have been quiet,
> does that mean that all development is taking place behind closed
> doors in the future? Do Laszlo employees still follow the open source
> project mailing lists at all? It seems that all questions answered in
> the user mailing list were answered by people not working for Laszlo.
>
> And what about the mobile runtime? Does anyone know which browsers are
> targeted by the DHTML mobile runtime? And what are the differences
> between that runtime and the default DHTML runtime?
>
> Thanks, Stevie
>
>
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Hi,

There has been silence from Critical Path about OpenLaszlo since they 
acquired it except for a small update notice placed at the top of the 
OpenLaszlo site (http://www.openlaszlo.org/). The OpenLaszlo community 
has not been kept in the loop about any official plans about the future 
of OpenLaszlo since CP took over. I have also not heard anything from 
any current employee of Critical Path or the subgroup that officially 
owns OpenLaszlo since they came over. Your guess about the future of 
OpenLaszlo is as good as mine. Most of the activity on the OpenLaszlo 
mailing list and OpenLaszlo forums has moved to stackoverflow.com under 
the "OpenLaszlo" and "Lzx" tags. I think the main people who used to 
respond to the mailing list now answer each others questions there. 
There is also a community space if you want to ask a non-programming 
related question, that would be the best place to ask probably:

https://www.assembla.com/spaces/openlaszlo-community/wiki/

Kevin

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augusto callejas | 16 Oct 2012 03:55
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JavaScript execution exceeded timeout (OpenLaszlo 4.9.0/DHTML)

I'm unable to load my OpenLaszlo application on iPhone (but able on iPad). When I run the Debug Console, the
following error is reported:

JavaScript execution exceeded timeout. (LFCdhtml.js)

I'm running OpenLaszlo 4.9.0, DHTML Runtime.

Has anyone else run into this error? If so, how can I refactor my code so that I can avoid it? Other folks
running into this error doing web development have suggested breaking down JavaScript execution in
smaller parts:

http://stackoverflow.com/a/7787988

If I know the corresponding areas in my LZX file that I should break into parts, then I could follow the same approach.

Thanks,
Augusto.

Jean-Marie Landri | 15 Oct 2012 23:57
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How to add cookies to input text

Hello,
how can i add cookies to input text field that will remember the previous inputs?
thank you
Steven Cho | 14 Oct 2012 18:27
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OpenLaszlo 5.0, mobile support, components, Java 7 support

Hi all,

I have a few questions on the upcoming release of OpenLaszlo 5.0

1. Is there any timeline for a release?

2. I'm evaluating the platform at the moment, and would like to see
the design of the new components, which are mentioned here:
http://openlaszlo.org/download
> OpenLaszlo 5.0, which is the upcoming release with newly redesigned components.
I couldn't find any source code for new components, are they currently
in beta and not public?

3. Mobile support
You are mentioning mobile features for the 5.0 release, which features
are those?
>  It also provides new features for creating and deploying mobile applications.

4. Tomcat 7 support
Will OpenLaszlo support Java 7 and Tomcat 7? If not, is there a
technical reason for it?

5. Mobile DHTML runtime
What's the difference between the DHTML runtime, and the mobile DHTML
runtime? Which mobile browsers are supported by the mobile runtime in
trunk?

Thanks,
Stevie

David Buckler | 9 Oct 2012 18:23
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Laszlo Contractor Wanted

We have a 7 year mature CRM product, think Salesforce, with the front end built entirely in OpenLaszlo.  We are looking for a contractor to augment our existing team.  Initially we have a need of 40+ hours a month but that could grow quickly.  Initial projects will be bug fixes and minor feature adds.  We are currently running Laszlo version 4.0.7 but have a side project of getting to 4.9 so if you have experience with this upgrade that is a plus.  The back end is built in Coldfusion and we do have projects available in this area too.  Anyone interested please contact me, db-v2pLX8z/RlnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org, with examples of work and a resume.

Thanks,
David
CTO - Intuvo

 


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