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Mario Torre | 1 Dec 2011 19:27
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OpneJFX mailing lists and project page

Hello all,

I can't find the address for the OpenJFX project and especially the mailing list.

The only reference on http://openjdk.java.net/projects is about the "external" official
JavaFX .

Are those already open?

I would also like to know if there is already some kind of timeline for the first code drop.

Thanks,
Mario
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mark.reinhold | 1 Dec 2011 19:39
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Re: OpneJFX mailing lists and project page

2011/12/1 10:27 -0800, neugens.limasoftware@...:
> I can't find the address for the OpenJFX project and especially the
> mailing list.

They should appear later today.

- Mark
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Mario Torre | 1 Dec 2011 19:57
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Re: OpneJFX mailing lists and project page

Il giorno 01/dic/2011, alle ore 19:39, mark.reinhold@... ha scritto:
> 2011/12/1 10:27 -0800, neugens.limasoftware@...:
>> I can't find the address for the OpenJFX project and especially the
>> mailing list.
> 
> They should appear later today.
> 
> - Mark

Hi Mark,

Later *today*, wow this is cool indeed (I was expecting more a reply like: "we're working on it").

Thanks a lot,
Mario
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Donald Smith | 5 Dec 2011 15:49
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Re: Patent Grant

A quick update -- I have what I believe is the final draft ready to go 
-- should be just a very short period of time to go -- thanks for not 
kicking me too hard, and apologies again for delays...

  - Don

On 23/11/2011 2:07 PM, Donald Smith wrote:
> It's coming, I'm really sorry it's taken so long, there's no excuse.  
> No big changes to what's in 6, just having a hard time getting the 
> final bits of attention.  I'll keep kicking, and please keep kicking me.
>
>  - Don
>
> On 22/11/2011 4:48 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
>> Not that I know. At least, there is no field of use restriction in
>> "OpenJDK Community TCK License Agreement for Java SE 6" from
>> http://openjdk.java.net/legal/  but I see there is still not one for 7.
>> Anybody know what happened to that?
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Andrew Haley | 5 Dec 2011 16:07
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Re: Patent Grant

On 12/05/2011 02:49 PM, Donald Smith wrote:
> A quick update -- I have what I believe is the final draft ready to go 
> -- should be just a very short period of time to go -- thanks for not 
> kicking me too hard, and apologies again for delays...

<kick>

:-)

Andrew.
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Donald Smith | 9 Dec 2011 14:46
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Re: Patent Grant

<kicks self>

Unfortunately I don't have any progress to report - it's still going to 
be at least a few more days.

  - Don

On 05/12/2011 10:07 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 12/05/2011 02:49 PM, Donald Smith wrote:
>> A quick update -- I have what I believe is the final draft ready to go
>> -- should be just a very short period of time to go -- thanks for not
>> kicking me too hard, and apologies again for delays...
> <kick>
>
> :-)
>
> Andrew.
>
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Timothy Madden | 13 Dec 2011 17:21
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Is there a better alternative for -cp/CLASSPATH ?

Hello

Is there a way to launch java applications (classes), without having to 
know and to specify where the .class files are installed all the time ?

Currently I have to set CLASSPATH or use the -classpath option on the 
java command line every time I want to start a Java application (I hear 
it is recomanded I do not set CLASSPATH in advance, but instead set it, 
or use -cp,  upon every invocation of java; this way every Java 
application is invoked with its own CLASSPATH).

Is there no way I could type just:
	`java net.grinder.Grinder´
without having to specify the installation files/directory for The Grinder ?

Is there no such thing as a local registry/repository/catalog of 
installed java classes/jars, that the launcher could use ?

Thank you,
Timothy Madden
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Andrew Haley | 13 Dec 2011 18:50
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Re: Is there a better alternative for -cp/CLASSPATH ?

On 12/13/2011 04:21 PM, Timothy Madden wrote:
> Is there no such thing as a local registry/repository/catalog of 
> installed java classes/jars, that the launcher could use ?

This is one of the goals of Project Jigsaw:

http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/

Andrew.
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Iris Clark | 13 Dec 2011 20:39
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OpenJDK bug database: DRAFT Developer Workflow

Hi!

I'm defining requirements for the OpenJDK bug database [1].  As one
would guess, it's not easy.  We have more than 15 years of data,
process evolution, and supporting tools that we need to consider.
Opinions on the effectiveness of existing process and tools vary.
Many people with different roles (end-users, developers, quality,
release management, etc.) need to be able to access the system.

I've written a preliminary draft of what the pilot workflow for bugs
and RFEs might look like.  It is based on the existing bug system with
modifications to omit portions that aren't used.  There is no
requirement that we stick closely to this draft, though any changes
will need to consider the impact on data migration.  It still needs
quite a bit of work.

  http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~iris/jira/JIRAforOpenJDK.html

Please send feedback/comments to this mailing list.  I'll provide
regular updates as feedback is incorporated and I fill in other
sections of the document.

Thanks,
iris

[1] http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/announce/2011-October/000112.html
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David Holmes | 14 Dec 2011 03:39
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Re: OpenJDK bug database: DRAFT Developer Workflow

Hi Iris,

A few initial comments.

The description for state "Understood" in the transition from dispatched 
was not at all what I would expect:

"This bug is either something which will be fixed as part of other work 
currently being conducted (but not quite a duplicate) or this bug was 
created specifically to describe planned changes."

??? Later descriptions of "understood" seem more in line with today's 
meaning. Though where it says;

"Sufficient investigation has been preformed to gain a basic 
understanding of how this bug/feature request should be addressed. There 
is no requirement that an actual solution be known at this time."

this matches more with "Cause known" than "Fix Understood".

I really like what we currently have in terms of:
- cause known (problem has been identified)
- fix understood (a solution seems to have been devised)
- fix in progress (actively implementing the solution)

As an IE (and someone who watches many new bug reports) I will often 
take a bug to "cause known" as part of my initial eval. Combining an 
understanding of the problem with the discovery of a solution into one 
state loses very important information in my opinion. For example, a bug 
with an understood fix can be easily picked up by a new developer as a
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