Andrea Franceschini | 24 May 22:14 2002
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foreign keyboard

I installed Forte for Java 3.0 with SDK 1.4.0
 
I have an Italian Keyboard but it is recognized as an American Keyboard. How can I make Forte understand that my keyboard is Italian?
 
Thankyou
 
Andrea Franceschini
atari <at> libero.it
Tomm Carr | 1 May 01:33 2002
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RE: Reformat code (again), in 3.4 M3

> From: Thomas Boerkel [mailto:tb <at> ap-ag.com] 
> Subject: [nbusers] Reformat code (again), in 3.4 M3
> 
> "Reformat code" still does not indent broken up lines 
> correctly in 3.4 M3. Shouldn't this be fixed for 3.4?
> 
> Example:
> 
> x = someMethod(para1,
>                para2,
>                para3);
> 
> 
> Will be reformatted as:
> 
> x = someMethod(para1,
> para2,
> para3);

I have a similar peeve.  I love being able to define abbreviations.  So
I type 'sout' and 'System.out.println("");' is substituted.  The problem
comes in when you try to make a multi-line entry.  For example, define
'try' as:

try {
	|
}
catch (exception e) {
}

The 'try {' goes where you want it, but the subsequent lines are flush
against the left side.  The editor does not intercept and indent them as
it would if you typed it all in.  One of the advantages to
object-oriented programming is that it should be easy to make it so the
editor treats input the same, whether it comes from the keyboard or from
the expansion of an abbreviation, and indents it all properly.

The reformat function will indent it but one doesn't always want to
invoke it while in the middle of entering new code where, for instance,
closing braces may not yet be entered.

Has this been entered as an RFE yet?

Tomm

Geoff Lane | 1 May 04:05 2002
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shared projects

Ok, so I recently started working for a company that is using JBuilder
as the 'blessed' IDE. The one feature that it has that seems to be
missing from/not obvious in NB (or I should say that I've never used)
that the head manager really likes is the ability to check in a project
file into CVS along with the code. When you open this project file in
JBuilder, you can immediately build the project (it references JARs on a
shared directory), can run the project in Tomcat, etc.

They are open to the idea of switching to a free IDE like NetBeans
because they don't feel like forking over the $$ for the upgrade to
JBuilder 6.

It seems like I can do this with NetBeans as well (via the 'Import
Project' command), but it also seems that A LOT of settings are stored
in that project directory including the size/state of the windows in the
IDE, etc.

1) Is this really possible?

2) Is there a way to separate the 'view' pieces from the core project
files that are needed to build and run a given bunch of code?

3) Anyone done this before? Caveats, etc?

Ultimately I'm asking what the best way would be to allow someone to
check a bunch of code into CVS, have another developer check it out and
with a minimal effort have everything 'just work'.

Thanks a bunch.

/me trying to get back on my beloved Net Beans

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Steve Benigan | 1 May 04:12 2002
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Interview with SVP Steve Mills (IBM)

InfoWorld interviewed Steve Mills recently concerning IBM's views on 
various developments.

He was questioned about Netbeans and his answers sound like he doesn't 
know much at all about Netbeans.  I thought that Sun and IBM were 
talking about the issues but maybe not... unless word hasn't worked it's 
way up to Steve's level...

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/04/29/020429hnmills.xml
---------------------------------------------------
"InfoWorld: So then how do you account for IBM essentially forking the 
open source development environment by starting Eclipse instead of 
joining with the Net Beans environment?

Mills: I didn't know that Eclipse was an anti-Sun movement.

InfoWorld: Certain people at Sun seem to think so. When you talk about 
reference implementations, that was one of the purposes of the Net Beans 
relationship in the first place. It sounds like that effort now is 
muddied by the fact that there are two paths for open-source 
contributions, particularly in the area of Web services.

Mills: No, I absolutely disagree with you. I don't see it that way at all.

InfoWorld: So how do you see the relationship between those two things?

Mills: There's nothing about Eclipse that's proprietary. There's nothing 
about Eclipse that's not modifiable through the eclipse.org initiative. 
And there's nothing wrong with offering up derivative works in an open 
source full publicly vetted environment. This is like saying that all 
invention done in the past is the invention that you're stuck with and 
you can't create anything new. Eclipse is not an anti-Sun effort, and it 
is not a proprietary effort. Eclipse.org has the opportunity to make 
modifications, it's not something that lives under some rigid control, 
my way or the highway.

InfoWorld:You're suggesting that Net Beans is an attempt to provide 
minimum participation? I'm not sure I understand?

Mills: Yes exactly. What's wrong with introducing new things, 
particularly if you introduce them in the context of providing open 
source, and by inviting dozens of tools vendors to and take advantage of 
what's there for the purposes of further extending the tools and 
workbenches that they currently deliver. Clearly we're interested in 
seeing an open tool environment that supports a wide variety of 
platforms and does not lock anybody to Solaris and Solaris-based 
tooling. We're equally interested in seeing the same scenario play out 
in the world of Intel

InfoWorld: So you're suggesting that was the motive for starting 
Eclipse, to provide that kind of pervasive environment across platforms, 
and that Net Beans somehow did not deliver that?

Mills: Absolutely. Look, I'm a cross-platform software provider. I've 
got to build applications that run on a whole variety of systems. I have 
tools today and I want more tools that support that paradigm of 
multi-platform, cross-platform. And I'm interested in not creating an 
inherent lock-in to which platform you're forced to build on or which 
platform you're forced to deploy on. That's what we're doing with 
Eclipse, that's the whole purpose, to move away from the historical 
multi-decade old legacy view that system vendors, such as IBM, only 
deliver things that provide support from a tooling standpoint for the 
creation of applications that run on their system"

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/04/29/020429hnmills.xml

Kevin Anderson | 1 May 04:17 2002

Re: Compound beans: problems using


Steve Benigan wrote:

> Under
> one circumstance this message went away but I haven't been able to
> reproduce it.

Yes, I experienced that too.  I had actually drafted my post a few days
back.  But just as I was about to send it the error stopped happening, so I
held off.  Interesting...

Steve Benigan | 1 May 04:38 2002
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Re: shared projects

I had to deal with the same issue but with Visual Cafe users.  When it 
comes down to it, people work in different ways so setting up a project 
that's used by all developers is overkill.  Nevertheless, if you need to 
maintain such control over the project, consider using an ANT scripts to 
provide 'project-like' functions.  You could even use an ANT script to 
mount points within the CVS tree among other things (I haven't done this 
but I think it's possible).

For multi-IDE setups, I use ANT to get everything from Source Code 
Control, build, and deploy.  All developers must use ANT but however 
they set up their tool is up to them.  This has a tremendous benefit in 
large systems since ANT can be run from the command line and does not 
depend on any IDE.  It's a paradigm shift but it provides a lot of 
consistency and flexibility.

Geoff Lane wrote:
> Ok, so I recently started working for a company that is using JBuilder
> as the 'blessed' IDE. The one feature that it has that seems to be
> missing from/not obvious in NB (or I should say that I've never used)
> that the head manager really likes is the ability to check in a project
> file into CVS along with the code. When you open this project file in
> JBuilder, you can immediately build the project (it references JARs on a
> shared directory), can run the project in Tomcat, etc.
> 
> They are open to the idea of switching to a free IDE like NetBeans
> because they don't feel like forking over the $$ for the upgrade to
> JBuilder 6.
> 
> It seems like I can do this with NetBeans as well (via the 'Import
> Project' command), but it also seems that A LOT of settings are stored
> in that project directory including the size/state of the windows in the
> IDE, etc.
> 
> 
> 1) Is this really possible?
> 
> 2) Is there a way to separate the 'view' pieces from the core project
> files that are needed to build and run a given bunch of code?
> 
> 3) Anyone done this before? Caveats, etc?
> 
> Ultimately I'm asking what the best way would be to allow someone to
> check a bunch of code into CVS, have another developer check it out and
> with a minimal effort have everything 'just work'.
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> /me trying to get back on my beloved Net Beans
> 

Gilles Pommereuil | 1 May 11:48 2002

Javac command-line length problem on Win 2K

Hi,

Sorry to bore you with a problem you probably have heard about a thousand 
times, but I could not find any info on this searching the web :

I am using Forte for Java CE 3.0 on Windows 2000 / XP, and the "external" 
compilation always fails when it has many files to compile at once, because 
the arguments to the javac command make the command line too long... I am 
sure someone here knows how to fix this...

Thanks !

Gilles

Petr Kuzel | 1 May 12:51 2002
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Re: Velocity template file type for Netbeans?

flacco wrote:
> 
> I'd like to edit my Velocity templates in netbeans.
> 
> Using nb's HTML editor works OK, but nb wants to append ".html" to the
> end of all my velocity templates, when they should end in ".vm" - e.g.
> "my-template.vm.html"  instead of "my-template.vm"
> 
> So first question - what is the best way to prevent this?  Can I specify
> that HTML documents don't have extensions automatically appended?

First add "vm" into list of extensions recognized by HTML object
(Options : IDE Configuration : System : Object Types : HTML Objects).

Then you can save your .vm file (now recognized as HTML) as template
(a popup menu item).

  Cc.

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Michael Ruflin | 1 May 13:34 2002
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Re: Reformatting of plain editor/text files

Hi Nilesh

> However I am working with javacc parsers (.jj) extensions. The way I can
> open this file is in the text mode. But in the plain editor I can not
> format the .jj file. Even though it is very similar to java source file.
> Would anybody be able to suggest any solutions. I also think netbeans does
> not support syntax coulring for .jj file.
Sorry, there is no easy way to reformat your file using an Action.
(Not sure if this was requested by you)

What you can do:
Go to Tools > Options > Editing > Editor Settings > Plain Editor:
Indentation Engine
and set it to Java Indentation Engine. The Indentation (after return) should
now work
as in a java file. (I have never tried it, maybe this is wrong...)
Hopefully that helps a bit.

Greetings,

Michael

Maxym Mykhalchuk | 1 May 14:13 2002

Re: Interview with SVP Steve Mills (IBM)

Hi, All!

Sorry for possible offtopic,
but it's COOL !!!

Especially about Solaris and Solaris-based, I work with Netbeans for more
than a year, and mostly on Windows or Linux. I have to say that I started
Netbeans on Sun Solaris OS (on Intel CPU) and found no difference in speed
or anything else. May be he started Netbeans on one of the Sun's hi-end
computers, and it was running faster then on IBM's hi-end, and it made him
ungry ;)

Now, in upcoming Netbeans 3.4 modules PVCS and VSS (Visual Source Safe) do
appear, the last running only on Windows ('cause it's MS's proprietary
thing).

Max


Gmane