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Tim Ellison | 17 Nov 16:42
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Board accepted attic resolution

FYI, at yesterday's meeting, the Board resolved as follows:

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it no longer in the best
       interest of the Foundation to continue the Apache Harmony
       project due to inactivity

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Apache Harmony
       project is hereby terminated; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Attic PMC be and hereby is tasked with
       oversight over the software developed by the Apache Harmony
       Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Harmony" is
       hereby terminated; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Harmony PMC is hereby terminated.
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ArLi Weng | 7 Nov 05:13
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[classlib][awt]Problem with libgl.so

i download the Apache Harmony 5.0M15 JRE for 32-bit Linux from apache.org, but not work for me, when i create
an awt.frame at java code, run it just tell me libgl.so not exist, but it exist in the
/mnt/public/gPRG/JavaDev/harmony-5.0-jdk-991518/jre/bin/libgl.so, my command and response here:

$ /mnt/public/gPRG/JavaDev/harmony-5.0-jdk-991518/jre/bin/java -showversion -jar cc-src.jar
Apache Harmony Launcher : (c) Copyright 1991, 2010 The Apache Software Foundation or its licensors, as applicable.
java version "1.5.0"
Apache Harmony (1.5.0)
DRLVM (1.5.0-r991518)
pre-alpha : not complete or compatible
svn = r991518, (Sep  7 2010), Linux/ia32/gcc 4.3.2, release build
http://harmony.apache.org
Uncaught exception in AWT-NativeEventThread:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can not find the library: libgl.so
	at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:806)
	at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:229)
	at org.apache.harmony.awt.Utils$2.run(Utils.java:44)
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivilegedImpl(AccessController.java:112)
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(AccessController.java:75)
	at org.apache.harmony.awt.Utils.loadLibrary(Utils.java:42)
	at org.apache.harmony.awt.wtk.linux.LinuxWTK.<clinit>(LinuxWTK.java:32)
	at java.lang.VMClassRegistry.initializeClass(VMClassRegistry.java)
	at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:146)
	at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:89)
	at java.awt.Toolkit.createWTK(Toolkit.java:975)
	at java.awt.Toolkit.access$1(Toolkit.java:972)
	at java.awt.Toolkit$1.init(Toolkit.java:555)
	at org.apache.harmony.awt.wtk.NativeEventThread.run(NativeEventThread.java:46)
Uncaught exception in main:
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
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johann Sorel | 3 Nov 12:42
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Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic


Thanks for the details.

well if it's not possible, that's it, no reason to continue on this topic.
At least I see several people appreciate the notion of public-domain/unlicense :) .

so ... Bye harmony and let's hope someone will revive you one day.

johann

> -----Original Message-----
> From: t.p.ellison <at> gmail.com
> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:30:24 +0000
> To: dev <at> harmony.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
> 
> On 03/11/2011 08:49, johann Sorel wrote:
>> You are right, if they want they can use it with this license but
>> still it's a source of problems. we have plenty of different licenses
>> out there, MIT, BSD, GPL ... and some more license we surely be
>> created in the futur, mixing them is not always fun. All of them are
>> not fully compatible. Legal problems are something really dirty when
>> you encounter them, noone working on open-source projects want to
>> have such problems.
>> 
>> The apache license is ~more or less~ fine today (everyone has it's
>> own preference), but might become a problem later. To avoid those
>> problems the change can only be done now while the PMC is still
>> here.
>
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johann Sorel | 3 Nov 09:49
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Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic


Hello,

You are right, if they want they can use it with this license but still it's a source of problems. we have
plenty of different licenses out there, MIT, BSD, GPL ... and some more license we surely be created in the
futur, mixing them is not always fun. All of them are not fully compatible. Legal problems are something
really dirty when you encounter them, noone working on open-source projects want to have such problems.

The apache license is ~more or less~ fine today (everyone has it's own preference), but might become a
problem later. To avoid those problems the change can only be done now while the PMC is still here.

Setting it in public domain can also make it revive, forks can start much more easely from it. Several JVM
have ~dyed~ (or are in lawsuit like google dalvik, android) in the last year. Having a few more vm out there
would be for the best, specialy if they are already reliable alternatives like harmony.

Johann Sorel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: clraychen <at> gmail.com
> Sent: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:48:10 +0800
> To: dev <at> harmony.apache.org, melanster <at> gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
> 
> Hi,
> As my understanding, if anyone (inlcuding students) want to use Harmony
> or
> contribute to Harmony.
> There is no limitation with the Apache license.
> 
> Correct me, if I am wrong.
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Ray Chen | 3 Nov 07:48
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Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic

Hi,
As my understanding, if anyone (inlcuding students) want to use Harmony or
contribute to Harmony.
There is no limitation with the Apache license.

Correct me, if I am wrong.

Thanks!

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Melan Nimesh <melanster <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:31 PM, johann Sorel <sorel.johann <at> inbox.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is
> > still alive.
> > maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the
> > benefit of other vm, student and university works ? and android by the
> way
> > (even if I'm not fan of it).
> >
>
> +1 for moving the project under public domain
>
>
> >
> > Mail from last year :
> > http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain
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johann Sorel | 2 Nov 17:43
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Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic


Everyone preach for it's own license preference, it's not the place to debate on this subject.
I personally had a bad experience with opensolaris when oracle changed the license and 'stole' free
developers work (I see it this way).

more than the license the ©Copyright is like a Sword of Damocles waiting in the dark. I trust the apache
foundation but still we don't know what the futur will be. Until a projet is under public domain I don't
consider it truly Free.

If you think the apache license is so close to public domain then it should not be a problem ?

The decision is not mine, and probably some contributor to harmony like IBM will have a word on this, or is it
the PMC decision only ?

johann sorel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: niclas <at> hedhman.org
> Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:35:37 +0800
> To: dev <at> harmony.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
> 
> Personally, I think the Apache License is as close to public domain
> you can come, since PD is not universally defined across
> jurisdictions.
> The "no right to trademarks" and "give us some credit" obligations
> will not stop anybody from using it.
> 
> Cheers
> Niclas
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johann Sorel | 2 Nov 16:01
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Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic

Hello,

I'm intruding again, before moving it to the attic and while the PMC is still alive.
maybe you could consider moving the project under public domain for the benefit of other vm, student and
university works ? and android by the way (even if I'm not fan of it).

Mail from last year :
http://harmony.markmail.org/message/bzifm5jshpviyyzz?q=public+domain

This will allow other project with bsd-like, mit, ...etc... licenses to reuse parts of harmony more
easely. Don't let all this work go to waste.

See it as a gift to the community :) .

johann sorel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mikhail.a.markov <at> gmail.com
> Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:54:28 +0400
> To: dev <at> harmony.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
> 
> +1
> 
> Sadly, but indeed there are no activity in the project for months...
> 
> On 11/2/11, Alex Blewitt <alex.blewitt <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1
>> 
>> Sorry to see it go but with the history and lack of sponsorship
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Tim Ellison | 29 Oct 11:03
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[Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic

Please vote on the proposal to move Apache Harmony to the Apache Attic.

[+1] Move Harmony to the Attic
[ 0] Don't care
[-1] Don't move Harmony to the Attic.

The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.

Thanks,
Tim
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Tim Ellison | 29 Oct 11:02
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Moving Apache Harmony to the Attic

Back in March I wrote [1] about the choice facing our community to
either find a new goal for Apache Harmony, or move the project under the
responsibility of the Apache Attic project [2].

There has been no significant activity in Apache Harmony since, so it
would seem appropriate to make the move.  I will start a vote (on a new
thread) for you to express your opinion.

The Apache Attic project has a separate PMC who would take over
responsibility for the Harmony code repository, mailing lists, etc.
This ensures the continued oversight of the project's assets in place of
the Harmony PMC.

While there will be no more releases of Apache Harmony after it moves to
the Attic, there is no impact to the license or terms available to
users.  If a group of people choose to work on Harmony again then the
resources can be reinstated under a new PMC at the approval of the Board.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to Apache Harmony over the years!

[1] http://markmail.org/message/ah5f42h4p2bhub6o
[2] http://attic.apache.org

Regards,
Tim
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lcj.dev | 18 Oct 04:10
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How is Harmony going on now ? <eom>



2011-10-18



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