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n. alex rupp | 19 Dec 01:22
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Re: Jeep is a trademark of Chrysler

IANAL, but the facts remain.

The word "Jeep" is not a word in any other context but that used to define the
WWII General Purpose military vehicle and its derivatives.  Except perhaps as a
character in Popeye comics.  My point is that the word is contrived, not a part
of standard vocabulary.

At Dictionary.com it's defined as "A trademark used for a civilian motor
vehicle."

So the principle below is beside the point.  As intellectual property, that
particular word is not a part of the public domain and cannot be used.  Like
"Frisbee" brand flying discs and "Kleenex" brand facial tissues, "Jeep" is not
applicable to any other usage.

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Subject: Re: Jeep is a trademark of Chrysler

> The principle to trademark infringement is whether it creates
> confusion in the marketplace.  "Jeep" is a widely recognized trademark
> in this country, and has been applied to non-vehicular, "lifestyle"
> products, I believe, though nothing like an app server!  So there's
> potential for confusion, but it's arguable.  And we have enough to
> argue about right now.
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Jeremy Boynes | 19 Dec 03:06

Re: are we volunteering new names, or not?

Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> We are not taking any new name nominations.  IIF this vote turns out to 
> change the name will be begin a round of nominations.
> 

I disagree - suggestions should be welcomed and added to the wiki page.
http://wiki.apache.org/geronimo/WhyApacheGeronimo

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Danny Angus | 19 Dec 09:59
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Re: Project Name - digression


> does anyone else think that it's ironic that we use such a low-tech way
> to vote when we're developing an application server?

Not me. Using mailing lists for votes is simple, proven and effective.
This is the way the ASF makes decisions at every level.
The threads are publicly archived in several places and therfore the vote
is open and auditable, and the votes themselves are stored for posterity
with many copies in many locations.

d.

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Danny Angus | 19 Dec 10:01
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Re: Why I am opposed to retaining the name Geronimo, and whi I consider this VOTE to be biased.


>  Can anyone find any examples of
> Native American outcry over the naming of the Comanche or Apache
helicopter
> or the Cherokee airplane.

http://www.flyingserpent.net/betweenthelines/1999/apaches.html

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Danny Angus | 19 Dec 10:18
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Re: Why I am opposed to retaining the name Geronimo, and whi I consider this VOTE to be biased.


Also this:

http://www.native-languages.org/jeep.htm

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Danny Angus | 19 Dec 10:25
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Re: Why I am opposed to retaining the name Geronimo, and whi I consider this VOTE to be biased.


In the interest of balance I found this quote

"The white man may have taken my land. But he took it like a warrior, fair
and square. Yes, he treated my people harshly. But he never denied their
bravery, never besmirched their memory as warriors."

and this one

"Why does the U.S. military have helicopters named "Apache" and
"Comanche"--but none that are named "Arikara" or "Ojibwa?" They name their
weapons systems after the fiercest tribes, because they want some of that
fierceness to rub off."

here:

http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/1007/article/1099

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founder_chen | 19 Dec 11:06
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Re: [vote] Project Name

[X] Yes, Keep the name Geronimo
[ ] No, Change the name

Sincerely

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mark benedetto king | 19 Dec 13:56

Re: Why I am opposed to retaining the name Geronimo, and whi I consider this VOTE to be biased.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 09:01:38AM +0000, Danny Angus wrote:
> >  Can anyone find any examples of
> > Native American outcry over the naming of the Comanche or Apache
> helicopter
> > or the Cherokee airplane.
> 
> http://www.flyingserpent.net/betweenthelines/1999/apaches.html
> 

That's a satirical faux-news article.

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Siva | 19 Dec 14:35
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Geronimo - trademark violation?

I just ran geronimo using googlism.com and cudn't find anything which
relates to "jumping off a cliff".So that's
a good sign(ok ok i voted against the name)

But i found that a company called as "Apex Data Systems"
http://www.apexdatasystems.com/index.html
has a product called as Geronimo.Will it be a trademark violation if we use
the same name?Can some one throw more light?

Regards
Siva
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Anderson Graepp | 19 Dec 16:23

Re: [vote] Project Name

> [ ] Yes, Keep the name Geronimo
> [X] No, Change the name

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for victory many advisers." Prov 24 : 5, 6

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