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Seshusri | 1 Feb 2003 11:27

Comparision Report

Hi,

In my project I want to use true MVC pattern. I found Velocity with Turbine
as right combination. But recently I have goon through the Struts model of
MVC pattern.

I want to know which model is the best? Where can I get comparision report?

Request ur help in this.

-Seshu Sri
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Janina Rubacha | 1 Feb 2003 18:17
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Re: Comparision Report

Hi,

Both models use true MVC patterns. if you need to pick one of them you
should consider what you want it for.
For information in comparison you could search in the turbine mailing list
archives
http://www.mail-archive.com/turbine-dev <at> jakarta.apache.org/

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Subject: Comparision Report

> Hi,
>
> In my project I want to use true MVC pattern. I found Velocity with
Turbine
> as right combination. But recently I have goon through the Struts model of
> MVC pattern.
>
> I want to know which model is the best? Where can I get comparision
report?
>
> Request ur help in this.
>
> -Seshu Sri
>
>
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Jon Scott Stevens | 2 Feb 2003 00:12
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Re: Comparision Report

on 2003/2/1 9:17 AM, "Janina Rubacha" <janinarubacha <at> fibertel.com.ar> wrote:

> Both models use true MVC patterns.

Honestly, I don't see how Struts is 'true MVC'. There are so many places
where the MVC contract is broken in Struts, it is silly.

-jon
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Marc Portier | 2 Feb 2003 20:32
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Re: Comparision Report

None of them are the best, except if you can redefine the problem 
to the solution.

None of them are MVC, except if you can redefine the meaning of 
the pattern. (http://radio.weblogs.com/0116284/2002/12/11.html#a20)

-marc=

Seshusri wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In my project I want to use true MVC pattern. I found Velocity with Turbine
> as right combination. But recently I have goon through the Struts model of
> MVC pattern.
> 
> I want to know which model is the best? Where can I get comparision report?
> 
> Request ur help in this.
> 
> -Seshu Sri
> 
> 
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Rob Oxspring | 3 Feb 2003 00:59
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[DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

Jakarta Newsletter
==================

Issue: 7
Date: January 2003
Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html

TODO

Contents 
--------

General
Lucene

General
=======
" Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project "
Editor: Rob Oxspring

Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make
it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The
Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed
out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of
the lists.

The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the
Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme,
Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote
specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7].
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Rob Oxspring | 3 Feb 2003 01:11
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Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

Okay people time to add your stuff.

As per usual I've CCd the previous contributers in the hope that they'll
either contribute again or talk someone on their projects into taking
over.  If you want to write up the months gossip for a project then send
it to me and I'll include it, its probably best to let the appropriate
dev list know so that duplicated work can be avoided.

I'm going to be offline for the next week so won't be able to respond to
questions or conrtibutions but I'm sure people on the general list will
be able to resolve any issues.  I'll aim to collate all the input on the
afternoon of the 9th and post another draft then.

Thanks in advance,

Rob
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Jeffrey Dever | 3 Feb 2003 01:24
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Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

Commons HttpClient

Release 2.0 Alpha 2!
After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of 
/HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done 
extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code 
base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that 
another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of 
February

Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff 
Dever with the Gimp!  http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/

Rob Oxspring wrote:

>Jakarta Newsletter
>==================
>
>Issue: 7
>Date: January 2003
>Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html
>
>TODO
>
>Contents 
>--------
>
>General
>Lucene
>
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dion | 3 Feb 2003 01:37
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Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

Rob,

do you want updates emailed to you, posted to the list, entered in the 
wiki??
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Blog:      http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog
Work:      http://www.multitask.com.au

Jeffrey Dever <jsdever <at> sympatico.ca> wrote on 03/02/2003 11:24:27 AM:

> Commons HttpClient
> 
> Release 2.0 Alpha 2!
> After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of 

> /HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done 
> extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code 

> base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that 
> another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of 
> February
> 
> Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff 
> Dever with the Gimp!  http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/
> 
> 
>
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Jeff Turner | 3 Feb 2003 02:19
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Re: New members of xml.apache.org PMC

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 03:05:27PM -0800, Ted Leung wrote:
> Here's a listing of the people to be added to the XML PMC, along with the projects that they are
representing: 
> 
> I've sent e-mail to Axkit and Batik asking them to get us their folks.
> 
> 
> Axkit:
> No one responded
> 
...
> Xindice
> Kip Hampton: 
> Matt Sergeant: matt <at> sergeant.org

It looks a bit like these are backwards, in which case it is Xindice
which needs to respond.. if not, ignore me :o)

--Jeff
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exnuke | 3 Feb 2003 06:15
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RE: Re: New members of xml.apache.org PMC

Uh....

I've been out of Xindice for a bit, but feel free to add me wherever needed. Probably want to look for an "Idiot
who goes out for coffee entirely too often" type of place.

: )

or windows specific builds or web interfaces or whaterver...

TWG

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http://www.ThatWaltGuy.com - web
THATW <at> LTGUY.COM - email
(303) 949-8369 - cell

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From:     Jeff Turner <jefft <at> apache.org>
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Cc:       xindice-dev <at> xml.apache.org; axkit-dev <at> xml.apache.org
Subject:  Re: New members of xml.apache.org PMC

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 03:05:27PM -0800, Ted Leung wrote:
> Here's a listing of the people to be added to the XML PMC, along with the projects that they are
representing: 
> 
> I've sent e-mail to Axkit and Batik asking them to get us their folks.
>
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