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Xiaobin Lu | 1 Nov 2005 02:21
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[openi18n-im:01569] How to access multiple input methods under en_US.UTF-8 with IIIMF?

Hi folks:

       I have a question regarding IIIMF. JDK is planning to use IIIM in 
next release (JDK 7.0) and I am investigating this now. What I found is 
when using IIIM directly through IIIMP instead of using XIM API, I can 
not get the "English/European" status window when I am in en_US.UTF-8 
locale. That status window is useful for the user who wants to use 
multiple input methods at same time.

       I am wondering how we could get the similar thing if I am using 
IIIMP directly. Is it possible? Thanks in advance!!

-Xiaobin
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AShiZaWa KaZuNoRi | 1 Nov 2005 05:59
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[openi18n-im:01570] Re: How to access multiple input methods under en_US.UTF-8 with IIIMF?

I'm not an expert of IIIMJCF, so just my thought...

Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:21:40 -0800
From: Xiaobin Lu <Xiaobin.Lu <at> sun.com>:
> Hi folks:
>    
>        I have a question regarding IIIMF. JDK is planning to use IIIM in 
> next release (JDK 7.0) and I am investigating this now. What I found is 
> when using IIIM directly through IIIMP instead of using XIM API, I can 
> not get the "English/European" status window when I am in en_US.UTF-8 
> locale. That status window is useful for the user who wants to use 
> multiple input methods at same time.
> 
>        I am wondering how we could get the similar thing if I am using 
> IIIMP directly. Is it possible? Thanks in advance!!

In CDE, you can access the selection menu by clicking the title
bar of java application with right button.  I suspect that this
feature is not supported in GNOME or other environments.

$ java -version
java version "1.5.0_05"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_05-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_05-b05, mixed mode, sharing)

Anyway, IIIMJCF is not well maintained these days, so it need to
be updated first.  The selection mechanism should be
reimplemented in IIIMJCF, I assume.
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-- 
kasha
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Xiaobin Lu | 1 Nov 2005 19:20
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[openi18n-im:01571] Re: How to access multiple input methods under en_US.UTF-8 with IIIMF?

AShiZaWa KaZuNoRi wrote:

>I'm not an expert of IIIMJCF, so just my thought...
>
>Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:21:40 -0800
>From: Xiaobin Lu <Xiaobin.Lu <at> sun.com>:
>  
>
>>Hi folks:
>>   
>>       I have a question regarding IIIMF. JDK is planning to use IIIM in 
>>next release (JDK 7.0) and I am investigating this now. What I found is 
>>when using IIIM directly through IIIMP instead of using XIM API, I can 
>>not get the "English/European" status window when I am in en_US.UTF-8 
>>locale. That status window is useful for the user who wants to use 
>>multiple input methods at same time.
>>
>>       I am wondering how we could get the similar thing if I am using 
>>IIIMP directly. Is it possible? Thanks in advance!!
>>    
>>
>
>In CDE, you can access the selection menu by clicking the title
>bar of java application with right button.  I suspect that this
>feature is not supported in GNOME or other environments.
>  
>
That is correct. However, you should still be able to use a helper 
application to select your perferred key combination to switching 
between input methods. See details at
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Hideki Hiura | 2 Nov 2005 01:01

[openi18n-im:01572] Re: How to access multiple input methods under en_US.UTF-8 with IIIMF?

Hi Xiaobin,

> From: Xiaobin Lu <Xiaobin.Lu <at> sun.com>
> >In CDE, you can access the selection menu by clicking the title
> >bar of java application with right button.  I suspect that this
> >feature is not supported in GNOME or other environments.
> That is correct.

This was sort of a hack anyway :-), so it is good to fix the
way it was handled in CDE.

> However, you should still be able to use a helper 
> application to select your perferred key combination to switching 
> between input methods. See details at 
> http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/articles/InputMethod/inputmethod.html#Input_method_selection_by_a_hot_key

Sure.

I guess IIIMJCF does not follow the language swtching via GIMLET well,
due to the way GIMLET is implemented currently, which is supposed to 
be fixed, but the hotkey "cntl-Shift-SPACE" should work as the hotkey 
based language swtching is implemented in IIIM server.

> So far, this status window (English/European under en_US.UTF-8) is 
> the one I found which might cause our existing customers to complain.

Is the status window not displayed at all? If so..must be a bug or
something.

Which environment are you testing JCF with?
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Xiaobin Lu | 2 Nov 2005 01:24
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[openi18n-im:01573] Re: How to access multiple input methods under en_US.UTF-8 with IIIMF?

Thanks for your reply, Hideki. Please see my inline comments.

Hideki Hiura wrote:

>Hi Xiaobin,
>
>  
>
>>From: Xiaobin Lu <Xiaobin.Lu <at> sun.com>
>>    
>>
>>>In CDE, you can access the selection menu by clicking the title
>>>bar of java application with right button.  I suspect that this
>>>feature is not supported in GNOME or other environments.
>>>      
>>>
>>That is correct.
>>    
>>
>
>This was sort of a hack anyway :-), so it is good to fix the
>way it was handled in CDE.
>
>  
>
>>However, you should still be able to use a helper 
>>application to select your perferred key combination to switching 
>>between input methods. See details at 
>>http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/articles/InputMethod/inputmethod.html#Input_method_selection_by_a_hot_key
>>
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Naoyuki Ishimura | 11 Nov 2005 06:18
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[openi18n-im:01574] re-construct of gnome-im-switcher

Hi All,

I'm Naoyuki Ishimura who joined this project from a few month ago.
(actually it's rejoining, I had been working for iiimjcf at 7 or 8 years ago)

We Sun are planning to change current gnome-im-switcher structure and UI
for integrating r12 to Solaris.

The main two purposes of this change are

- gather all of iiim related properties setting to one setting dialog.
(currently "Input Method Preference", "Gimlet Preference", "Add or
Remove Languages" and "IIIM Hotkey Configuration Window" are used for
setting user's preference, but this situation is not so ideal, because
it's hard to find what kind of properties user can set and also hard to 
find the right place to set it.

- prevent inconsistent 'Input Language List' to show up among different
client types (currently too long language list is shown 
with iiimxcf, and gimlet menu and SWITCH LANG popup are different, etc)

We are not finished these implementation yet, but will start to putback
these changes step by step from next week.
# All of modification to current souce code except bug fix will be enclosed
# with "#ifdef HAS_IIIM_PROPERTIES" - iiim-properties will be the name of
# properties setting application.), so this change will not affect to current
# gimlet behavior if this flag is not set.

Regards,
Naoyuki
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