Dave Crossland | 1 Mar 01:12 2007

Re: InfoD-Cafe: [Fwd: Kairos Call for Designs and Call for Interface Editor (Feb 1)]

On 27/02/07, Randal <digitas <at> panix.com> wrote:
>
> I think I was conflating http://tinyurl.com/6563p
> with Google's purchase of youtube.

Ah okay :-)

That article is dated February 11, 2005, and the Gootube deal was
October 10, 2006.

Perhaps dates are often lower in the visual hierarchy of websites than
they should be :-)

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Carla Spinillo | 1 Mar 01:24 2007
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Wordless graphics

Dear Jose
 
I may be of some help on this. I have conduct experimental research on wordless instrucional material (procedural pictorial sequences) with adults in Brazil since 2001. If you are interested, I can send you information about them (papers published and reserach reports).
 
Cheers
 
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Dear colleagues,

Do you know any experiment on the effectiveness of
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Bosley, Deborah | 1 Mar 01:41 2007

Re: InfoD-Cafe: Wordless graphics

I hope you will share the results of your
research with the listserv. This is very important
research, I think. Deborah

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Dear Jose

I may be of some help on this. I have conduct experimental research on wordless instrucional material (procedural pictorial sequences) with adults in Brazil since 2001. If you are interested, I can send you information about them (papers published and reserach reports).

Cheers

Carla
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Co-editor of the InfoDesign | Brazilian Journal of Information Design

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  Cheers

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Nicholas Giusto | 1 Mar 02:12 2007
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Wordless graphics

José,

Although not empirical studies, these are a few examples you may or may not be aware of:

Ikea’s assembly instructions

A few interesting comments can be found in this post by Signal vs. Noise: http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/wordless_pancake_recipe.php

And of course, the small book by Nigel Holmes: Wordless diagrams http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582345228/qid%3D1113829717/sr%3D2-1/ref%3Dpd%5Fbbs%5Fb%5F2%5F1/104-6174370-5102309

Nick

Jose de Souza <marconi2006 <at> googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

Do you know any experiment on the effectiveness of
wordless graphics for instructional purposes?

Cheers

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David Sless | 1 Mar 02:34 2007
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Wordless graphics

Dear José,

A post graduate student of mine, Peter Schumacher, will shortly be  
publishing an account of some of his work on this subject. It's due  
to appear in a forthcoming issue of IDJ+DD. Keep an eye open for it.

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On 28/02/2007, at 9:01 PM, Jose de Souza wrote:

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>
> Do you know any experiment on the effectiveness of
> wordless graphics for instructional purposes?
>
> Cheers
>
> -- 
> José de Souza
> PhD Student
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> The University of Reading
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Jose de Souza | 1 Mar 07:29 2007

Re: InfoD-Cafe: Wordless graphics

Thank you all for the suggestions.

For the sake of curiosity have a look at this two links:

A "Flickr" collection instructional drawings (most of them 'wordless'):
http://www.flickr.com/groups/instructionaldrawings/pool/

The concept of "recipics" in practice:
http://coo.kz/

José.

On 01/03/07, David Sless <d.sless <at> communication.org.au> wrote:
> Dear José,
>
> A post graduate student of mine, Peter Schumacher, will shortly be
> publishing an account of some of his work on this subject. It's due
> to appear in a forthcoming issue of IDJ+DD. Keep an eye open for it.
>
> David
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>
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>
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> On 28/02/2007, at 9:01 PM, Jose de Souza wrote:
>
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > Do you know any experiment on the effectiveness of
> > wordless graphics for instructional purposes?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --
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> > PhD Student
> > Department of Typography & Graphic Communication
> > The University of Reading
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Conrad Taylor | 1 Mar 09:32 2007
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Carla Spinillo wrote:

>   I may be of some help on this. I have conduct experimental
>   research on wordless instrucional material (procedural
>   pictorial sequences) with adults in Brazil since 2001.
>   If you are interested, I can send you information about
>   them (papers published and reserach reports).

José, Carla...  you do realise that you are both speaking
at Information Design Conference 2007, don't you, in four
weeks' time?

An ideal opportunity to compare notes.

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Jose de Souza | 1 Mar 11:31 2007

Re: InfoD-Cafe: Collection of illustrated Manuals

The concept of "well designed" products it is a subject that may take
long hours of discussion, which very often it finishes (or starts) by
people agreeing to disagree.

Anyway, I will not escape from this question.  In my humble opinnion,
"well designed" instructions means that a good compromise between
instructional effectiveness requirements (e.g. Have I been clearly
taught what I am suposed to learn?) and aesthetic satisfaction (e.g.
have I been visually persuaded to learn what I am suposed to learn?)
has been achieved in the product form.  I admit that this sounds
rather simplistic. But, if you want to get deeper Patricia Wright's
paper "Criteria and ingredients for successful patient information "
indicates that, in order to deliver the message efficiently,
instructions should be readable, usable and, lets not forget,
likeable.  I see this approach as rather platonic, however it
motivates me as professional.

By the way an beautiful example of Needlework manual is the
"Encyclopedia of Needlework" by Therese de Dillmont (c.a. 1900).

José.

> The gardening books written by D. G. Hessayon, the 'Expert' series.
> These are relatively inexpensive and very popular books that continue
> to sell well despite (mostly) being over 10 years old. They do raise
> an interesting question which is: what do we mean by 'well designed'?
> Hessayon's books strike me as somewhat ugly but they are clearly
> effective.

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christian mariacher | 1 Mar 16:40 2007
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: dealing with pictures

Katherine,

> - Grid Systems in Graphic Design (Josef Muller-Brockmann, bilingual  
> ed 1996)

Yes, though the Müller-Brockmann classic is a bit
too dogmatic for my taste. 
However, I found one answer to my original question in 

Bosshard, R: Der typografische Raster The Typographic Grid.
Zurich: Verlag Niggli, 2006 (2nd ed)

There is a "theoretical appendix" which deals with the
structure of pictures and there I found exactly the sort 
of advice I was looking for: pictures are explained
in terms of ...
viewing direction (of the depicted person), movement,
perspective, symmetry, picture-diagonals, weight etc.
... and from this conclusions about the position on the
page are drawn.

I generally appreciate Bosshard's relaxed but well considered 
appoach to designing grids.

Christian

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David Sless | 2 Mar 02:06 2007
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