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Matt Carey | 1 Apr 2004 01:13
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Scribus


On 31 Mar 2004, at 10:38 pm, Jaco Swart wrote:

> Thank you, Dave. From what I could find on the Scribus website, and 
> from your comments, I should look into Scribus sometime. Before I can 
> compile it, though, I'll have to upgrade my fairly ancient GCC to 3.2. 
> It may be time to upgrade my fairly ancient Red hat 7.3 to Fedora...
>

i've just installed scribus on my mac in about 10 minutes, including 
the time it took to download!

very easy if you have fink and fink commander installed. going to have 
a little play with it -- i can make screenshots available if people 
want to see them...

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Dave | 1 Apr 2004 02:35
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InfoD-Cafe: First Powerpoint, now Excel


Hi,

 From  
http://slashdot.org/articles/04/03/31/0520235.shtml?tid=126&tid=185 :

> I found this link on a CAD-related mailing list which questioned the  
> current state of spreadsheet usage -  
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&e=5&u=/zd/ 
> 20040323/tc_zd/121973
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> Since using spreadsheets is often only one step away from PowerPoint  
> mastery, I thought it worthy of submission." An excerpt: "The second  
> distortion caused by conventional spreadsheets is more subtle. It's  
> described in a 1980s paper, written by university researcher Jeffrey  
> Kottemann and others concerning what they called 'Performance,  
> Beliefs, and the Illusion of Control.' The paper described an  
> experiment in which subjects were asked to perform a planning task  
> using different tools, some of them with elaborate what-if capability  
> and others without it." Yup, it's a ZD/Yahoo link, but it raises good  
> questions."

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Dave | 1 Apr 2004 01:40
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Scribus (was: end of framemaker for the mac)


On 31 Mar 2004, at 22:45, Rob Scovell wrote:

> I haven't tried or looked at Scribus but I think that one important 
> test for a package for professional use is CMYK handling. But then I 
> am a paper person.

The Color Management Software (littlecms) as well as the printing 
system (CUPS) are important for the whole issue, and the Scribus 
documentation explain the complexities well: 
http://home.comcast.net/~scribusdocs/cms.html

The commercial reality of Pantone colors means these are lacking, which 
is also a problem along similar lines though, ack :(

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Loren R. Needles | 1 Apr 2004 06:18

Re: InfoD-Cafe: Charting software in MacOS?

Mark:

There is a fairly comprehensive discussion thread on graphing 
software options on Ed Tufte's site. See 
<http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00000p&topic_id=1&topic=Ask%20E%2eT%2e>

As you can see there is quite a spectrum out there.

In the News "info graphics" world, DeltaGraph is the workhorse. See 
<http://www.rockware.com/catalog/pages/deltagraphmac.html>

This package has changed owners several times over its some 15 years 
of life and has been improved by each owner. It is available for both 
Mac and PC. The current owner, Rockware, has tried to address the 
needs of both the Tech/Sci community and the InfoGraphics community 
and has tried to give graph authors all the features needed to 
achieve design excellence without having to "finish" the graph in 
Freehand or Illustrator although I still have to finish up in 
Freehand about half the time (but I'm very picky).

If you are interested in looking at what the News Graphics folk do 
with Delta Graph plus Freehand, Take a look at the huge archive at 
KRT: <http://www.krtdirect.com/graphics/preview/advisory.htm>

Just enter any statistical news topic (economy, population, taxes, 
social security, etc in the search field and select graphics option. 
Of course you have to be a paid subscriber to see the actual graphic 
but the free thumbnails are adequate for general interest. 
Unfortunately, other news graphics sites such as AP Graphics and 
NYT-GraphicsWire don't let you peek at their archives unless you pay.
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Rob Scovell | 1 Apr 2004 11:41
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InfoD-Cafe: Ancient Jewish proofreaders

In the course of some research into Hellenistic Judaism, I have come 
across the following desription of the copying of the Hebrew 
Scriptures:

"Josephus tells how the Jews copied the Old Testament. "We have given 
practical proof of our reverence for our own Scriptures. For although 
such long ages have now passed, no one has ventured either to add, or 
to remove, or to alter a syllable; and it is an instinct with every 
Jew, from the day of his birth, to regard them as the decrees of God, 
to abide by them, and, if need be, cheerfully to die for them" (Against 
Apion, Book I, sec., 8, p. 158). Josephus statement is no exaggeration. 
The Jewish copyists knew exactly how many letters were in every line of 
every book and how many times each word occurred in each book. This 
enabled them to check for errors. The Jews believed that adding any 
mistake to the Scriptures would be punishable by Hell. This is not like 
the modern secretary who has many letters to type and must work hard to 
keep their job, and consequently feels that mistakes are inevitable. 
Great care is exercised with scriptures when someone holds a conviction 
such as this. "

rob scovell
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aotearoa new zealand

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Conrad Taylor | 3 Apr 2004 14:20
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InfoD-Cafe: Russian fonts for older iMac?

Hi Cafe,

My mother, who uses one of the original iMacs on System 8.6
or 9.x or something, and who definitely does not want at her
age the adventure of upgrading to the heady but confusing
world of Jaguars, Panthers, Unicode and OpenType, asks:

   "Where and how can I get a Cyrillic font to be able to
    work in Russian on the iMac, under the British Mac
    operating system I currently use?"

Off-list responses to conrad <at> ideograf.demon.co.uk, thanks!

Conrad
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Conrad Taylor | 5 Apr 2004 07:26
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Russian fonts for older iMac?

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for suggestions
about how to use Cyrillic fonts on an older Macintosh.

I believe I now have an appropriately simple solution (thanks
to Charles Foster for this one) and a CD will be on its way
to the Taylor parental home today...

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Conrad Taylor | 5 Apr 2004 07:48
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InfoD-Cafe: The first mile to the Internet

Hi all,

Maybe some of you have seen this story, which has been covered
in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.  It came to
me via a paragraph in the Seybold Report on Publishing and got
my interest because of my involvement with development aid,
Southeast Asia and technology...

Here's a brief summary: in the north east of rural Cambodia,
a number of villages that have neither electricity nor a
telephone connection now have Internet access, with computers
installed in schools and community centres.  Power for the
computers is provided by solar panels, but it's the way that
connectivity is established that is novel...

Five "Motomen" have been employed to drive their small motorbikes
from village to village.  Each motorbike is equipped with a box
that has WiFi wireless networking gear in it, powered by the
bike's battery.  As the motorbike is driven slowly past the
WiFi-equipped computer centres, emails are picked up and
dropped off -- very much like the post.

A good starting point to read about this story is at the site
of the Boston-based company who developed this solution:

    http://www.firstmilesolutions.com/press.htm

 From there you can follow the links.  The New York Times one
will require you to register to read the story and see the
photos; I thought it was worth it.
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tamasin cole | 5 Apr 2004 12:59
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InfoD-Cafe: Russian fonts for the Mac

Can we know what Charles Foster's solutions was?
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Charles Foster | 5 Apr 2004 16:47
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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Russian fonts for the Mac

on 5/4/04 11:59 am, tamasin cole at t.cole <at> tamasincole.co.uk wrote:

> Can we know what Charles Foster's solutions was?
> Tamasin

certainly!

I have a freeware font which I downloaded from an academic site source about
a year ago. Unfortunately I can't remember the URL for the source, but I can
try and track it down again if there is a demand...

Charles Foster

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