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Erik Hansen | 1 Apr 2004 02:23
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PS : (he) prefer(s) having the questions and answers on the list

--- Jan Schenkel <janschenkel@...> wrote:

> PS : I prefer having the questions and answers
> on the
> list, as others might be facing the same
> problem and
> not know where to start ; plus, you might not
> have to
> wait until I get round to answering.

amen to that!
just scanning things that are way over 
my head is a good preperation.

thanks, Erik

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Erik Hansen | 1 Apr 2004 02:41
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Revolution and WiFi

--- Richard Gaskin <ambassador@...>
wrote:

> With the sort of net-apps described on Reactor
> Labs' page at
> <http://reactorlab.net/intro/rich_client.html>
> and elsewhere, Rev allows you to invent new
> categories of connected workflows and
> amusements that make optimal use of both
> desktop and Internet capabilities.

this page is very informative
does Revolution have any characteristics
that affect wireless transmission? 
anything to consider when buying a computer?
with 802.11a,b,g, bluetooth, 54g wireless LAN,
etc. etc. to consider, one wonders which one
to select with which OS and which computer.

thanks,

Erik Hansen

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Jim Carwardine | 1 Apr 2004 02:51

Re: PS : (he) prefer(s) having the questions and answers on the list

Absolutely.  I've accumulated a ton of notes of things I intend to do with
my app but I don't know how to do them and haven't got to them yet... Jim

on 3/31/04 8:23 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:

> --- Jan Schenkel <janschenkel@...> wrote:
> 
>> PS : I prefer having the questions and answers
>> on the
>> list, as others might be facing the same
>> problem and
>> not know where to start ; plus, you might not
>> have to
>> wait until I get round to answering.
> 
> amen to that!
> just scanning things that are way over
> my head is a good preperation.
> 
> thanks, Erik
> 
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Andre Garzia | 1 Apr 2004 04:42
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Re: Perl LWP like scripting from Rev?


On Mar 31, 2004, at 6:49 PM, Jim Witte wrote:

>   Is there any way I can automate website interaction in Rev, similar 
> to the Perl LWP module (or perhaps calling LWP directly from Rev?)
>
> Jim

Jim,

don't know what you want, but allow me to talk a little about a project 
of mine and about another solution, both will deliber WebApp 
functionality, I grok that for website interaction you mean dynamic 
pages built in Rev, may they be CGI or not.

First, let me sell my fish. (actually give, for it's free fish)

I've got this project that was called revHTTPd, you can see more info 
on it by going to my homepage http://www.soapdog.org and looking into 
the projects. I'll brief here what revHTTPd is at the first glance. 
First it was a full HTTP server built in Rev that was able to serve 
static and dynamic pages. Dynamic pages were just substacks of the 
server and this server could be embedded in any stack of yours. You can 
look at my home server by pointing your browser to 
http://home.soapdog.org:8081/ there you can see the server running and 
interact with it, also learn about it's internals.

Now let me talk deeper on revHTTPd or more, on ServerWorkz, which is a 
bundle that integrates many things.
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Andre Garzia | 1 Apr 2004 04:44
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Re: Writing MacOSX services in Rev?


On Mar 31, 2004, at 6:53 PM, Jim Witte wrote:

>   Is there any way you could write a standalone (having no attendant 
> application) MacOSX service in Rev, or register a "service handler" 
> from within a Rev stack?
>
> Jim

wow, thats a hard one! =)

A service must link to a service framework and be bundled as something 
that is not an app right? it's not trivial like building an standalone 
that answers to couple appleEvents right? I guess we need more revGuru 
help...

I think, you can't for service bundles are a little different than app 
bundle... let me research a little, if I find something usefull I'll 
post here.

Cheers
Andre

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Andre Garzia | 1 Apr 2004 05:02
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On arrays as arrays elements (or why I like boxes...)

Dar,

I just thought a some good reason why I like boxes and why I keep using 
them in my every day job. It's a silly reason, but it's the best way to 
access some types of data like macintosh .plist files, we can build a 
XML to Box translation utility and access it easily, this is also good 
for *nix users for this system uses structured text files for almost 
every kind of configuration. for example, when reading 
com.apple.mail.plist, I can create boxes for every kind of entry and 
group them respecting the structure, for me thats a very good reason to 
keep my box.rev on my DVD backup... This way, I have a bAccounts box, 
this box is a sequence of box, every box is an account, every account 
is also a box with all the info of the account as the sequence... it's 
pretty straight forward and better than all, I can just save them in 
the custom props if I need, or better use my revHTTPd project to post 
them across the internet, this gives me an easy way to send complex Rev 
data structures across the net.

Also, I am now using box as my main backbone for my RevLISP 
implementation, that's the easiest way for the cons cell. So, thanks 
for the box prime, one of the most used stacks here at my home! :D

Cheers
Andre

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Kurt Kaufman | 1 Apr 2004 05:27

revSpeak and embedded speech commands - cross-platform

I believe I may have mentioned this before:
The embedded speech commands do not fully function under Mac OS X.  For 
instance, the following:

[[pmod 0]] [[pbas 59]][[rate 100]]i [[pbas 60]][[rate 300]]would [[pbas 
62]][[rate 100]]while [[pbas 59]][[rate 200]]ah [[pbas 55]][[rate 
100]]way [[pbas 57]][[rate 200]]the [[pbas 59]][[rate 200]]ow [[pbas 
55]][[rate 50]]ers [[pbas 57]][[rate 200]]cuhn [[pbas 59]][[rate 
100]]vir [[pbas 55]][[rate 200]]sing [[pbas 52]][[rate 100]]with [[pbas 
54]][[rate 200]]the [[pbas 55]][[rate 200]]flauw [[pbas 52]][[rate 
50]]ers [[pbas 50]][[rate 200]]cun [[pbas 50]][[rate 100]]sult [[pbas 
50]][[rate 200]]ting [[pbas 50]][[rate 100]]with [[pbas 50]][[rate 
200]]the [[pbas 50]][[rate 50]]rain [[cmnt]] [[slnc 500]] [[cmnt]] 
[[slnc 500]] [[cmnt]] [[slnc 500]] [[pbas 55]][[rate 100]]and [[pbas 
54]][[rate 200]]my [[pbas 52]][[rate 50]]head [[pbas 64]][[rate 
100]]ide [[pbas 62]][[rate 200]]be [[pbas 60]][[rate 100]]scrat [[pbas 
59]][[rate 200]]chin [[pbas 57]][[rate 100]]while [[rate 10000]]u, 
[[pbas 55]][[rate 200]]my [[pbas 54]][[rate 100]]thoughts [[pbas 
54]][[rate 200]]were [[pbas 66]][[rate 100]]biz [[pbas 64]][[rate 
200]]zee [[pbas 62]][[rate 100]]hatch [[pbas 60]][[rate 200]]chin 
[[pbas 59]][[rate 100]]if [[pbas 57]][[rate 200]]i [[pbas 55]][[rate 
100]]own [[pbas 55]][[rate 200]]lee [[pbas 55]][[rate 200]]had [[pbas 
55]][[rate 200]]ah [[pbas 55]][[rate 25]]brain

when spoken using one of the following voices:
Princess; Kathy; Junior; Fred; Ralph; Trinoids; Zarvox

will "sing"......under Mac OS 8 or 9.  However, it appears that the 
command [[pmod 0]]  , which will prevent the usual modulation (based on 
position within structures such as sentences) is not effective under
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Dar Scott | 1 Apr 2004 07:52
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Re: On arrays as arrays elements (or why I like boxes...)


On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, at 08:02 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> I just thought a some good reason why I like boxes and why I keep 
> using them in my every day job. It's a silly reason, but it's the best 
> way to access some types of data like macintosh .plist files, we can 
> build a XML to Box translation utility and access it easily,

I'm currently up to my neck in alligators, but maybe in a few weeks I 
can visit boxes again.  I hope to get it to the point where I can put 
it on the web site and make it available.

I like the idea of XML/box translation.  Because of that, I might 
remove the ASCII text representation option.

I need to check, but I think the internal number representation might 
have endian problems in the binary version as far as portability among 
platforms.  If XML is the way to move data, then this is less 
important, too.  Maybe all portability features can be removed.

Do you use the chunking interface or do you use the iterator interface 
or both?

Dar Scott
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xbury.cs | 1 Apr 2004 08:08

Re: Revolution and WiFi

Erik,

Whichever wifi you choose, it should just function as
a network cable should... But with wifi you should consider
that any microwave oven or GSM ringing might temporarily
simulate an EM pulse on your network and cut the link...

Otherwise Wifi is fun! Requires no cabling, has plenty
of security and speed going for it... Wifi over sat is also
coming for broadband I hear...

On 01.04.2004 02:41:15 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>--- Richard Gaskin <ambassador@...>
>wrote:
>
>> With the sort of net-apps described on Reactor
>> Labs' page at
>> <http://reactorlab.net/intro/rich_client.html>
>> and elsewhere, Rev allows you to invent new
>> categories of connected workflows and
>> amusements that make optimal use of both
>> desktop and Internet capabilities.
>
>this page is very informative
>does Revolution have any characteristics
>that affect wireless transmission?
>anything to consider when buying a computer?
>with 802.11a,b,g, bluetooth, 54g wireless LAN,
>etc. etc. to consider, one wonders which one
>to select with which OS and which computer.
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Meitnik | 1 Apr 2004 08:19
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Re: fh and tracing


In a message dated 04/01/2004 01:10:25 AM, 
use-revolution-request@... writes:

> I'm
> familiar with Freehand's autotrace tool, but in my experience this usually
> rounds out edges making for slightly distorted looking linework.
> -- contact me off list. I might be able to help. Tracing was my baby when I 
was testing fh 3./fog 4. at Altsys.

Andrew
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