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Nicolas Cueto | 8 Oct 06:45

Re: VISTA Printing Woes

Hello,

A 2.9-built standalone's printing function suddenly no
longer works -- kind of.

Looking thru the archives, a likely culprit is Vista.

Anyway. I say "kind of", cause I did finally manage
to get a print-out when I over-rode my printer's
"automatic paper-tray selection" option and, instead,
manually selected "front-loading tray". And only the
"frond-loading tray" option words; none of the other
three in-built trays works when selected.

The (Ipsio) printer is on a network, and MS-Office
applications (Word, Excel) have no problems
printing. Oh, and I'm on a Japanese version of
Vista.

By the way. The problem also occurs with the Rev
development environment.

Hopefully, someone has more info on this problem.
But I'm posting mostly to offer a possible work-around.

Cheers,

Nicolas Cueto
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Joe Lewis Wilkins | 8 Oct 02:12

3.0 Field numbering messed up

Attention:

I'm doing some math on a form. Carefully, I thought, I numbered the  
various flds so that I could refer to them in sequence or, at least,  
know what their names are by their positions without having to  
constantly check them out. However, when it came time to refer to them  
I was a bit mistaken. It seems that a field fld "1" does not return  
the value that is in that field; it returns the value that is in a  
totally different field, but the one that is "1" by layering. It was  
the first field I created. It does the same with fld "2"; refers to  
the second field I created and one that is "2" by layering; not by  
name. To me this is a bug. Correct?

I can diddle around and make this work, but I shouldn't have to. When  
I refer to an object by its name I should get the contents of that  
object.

TIA,

Joe Wilkins

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Charles Szasz | 7 Oct 21:56

Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client


Is there a simple way to code to send an e-mail from within Revolution
without using an e-mail client such as Apple's Mail? I have a program that
is designed to send a report as a text file. I run into a problem with
RevMail using an e-mail program when the user uses a web based e-mail
program.
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Scott Rossi | 7 Oct 21:09

[ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media

Hello Revolutionaries:

Just a quick note to announce the redesign/release of Tactile Media's Web
site (www.tactilemedia.com).  The site update is not as important as a new
Revolution Tutorials/Demos area available in the Software section of the
site, which now features 32 free and open stacks, complete with thumbnail
previews.  

As well as offering several new demos, many of the older demos have been
rewritten, updated, and commented to be more understandable and flexible for
use in your own stacks (for example, our GetInLine drag list reordering demo
can now be used as a library and no longer requires screen locking to
operate).  There are really too many updates to list here.  Stacks are still
being tested for compatibility with Revolution 3, so you may run into some
issues -- just let us know.

In any event, I thought this would be worth sharing.  Have fun, and keep up
the revolution...

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design

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Malte Brill | 7 Oct 19:52

Re: Re: Re: suggestions for cross-version benchmarking test tool?

Hi Richard,

if you want, please look at http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7257
I too see leakage and drastic slowdowns under Linux, yet I could not  
boil it down to something as atomic as in this test case.

Cheers,

malte
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Richmond Mathewson | 7 Oct 12:03

Why I didn't, and why I may, later.

1. A bit short of money right now.

2. For reasons that have been confirmed in the Use-List since RR 3 was released: the very same reason why I
bought a Mac G4 two weeks after they released the G5s.

Microsoft and Apple have been slammed time and time again for releasing software (operating systems or
other) which still looks Beta-ish. There is a school of thought that Mac OS X is still a bit tatty round the
edges (v.g. the inconsistencies that abound in the behaviour of the Finder).
Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed-off about being excluded from 10.6.

There are folk who will claim that firms release Beta-ish software to raise money to continue work; this has
always struck me as a bit disingenuous.

Hundreds of people who bought themselves PCs with "Vista" installed are returning to XP because the view is
a bit foggy.

I am now popping pennies (quite literally) in a jam jar with "3.x" written on it.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Bernard Devlin | 7 Oct 11:42

suggestions for cross-version benchmarking test tool?

Ok, so since Chipp thinks my benchmark is pretty crummy (which I'm happy to
believe), can someone provide me with what they think would be a better way
to benchmark the speed of the different engines?  I'm reluctant to use
Wilhelm's suggestion on Linux, since there is a known memory leak to do with
the interaction of Rev and XWindows on Rev 2.9 and Rev 3.0 (by my
observation Rev causes X to leak about 2mb every 3 seconds whilst the stack
that demonstrates the leak runs).  So, I think it's best if any benchmark
tries to limit any use of graphics, so that we can try to eliminate/minimize
this known bug.
As Chipp suggested, I searched the archive for 'benchmarks gaskin' but
didn't come up with anything that seemed like a test of the engine rather
than a test of a specific feature e.g. regex, filter, offset.  I had a look
at Richard's revBench but that seems to be a tool designed to just compare
two different scripts within the same version of Revolution.

I'm looking for something to explain why there are noticeable flickers (for
me) in various components of the Rev 3.0 IDE (elements within the menu bar
and within property inspectors).  As I've mentioned there is a known bug
with X, but equally these flickers may be nothing to do with that bug.  I
think that Rev 3.0 on Linux is just running slower than it is on Windows.

If the Linux engines is running slower, whilst the Windows (and maybe OS X)
engines have had a significant speed increase, then this could be useful
information for the Runrev developers.  This speed issue is not merely a
cosmetic issue (even though it does help make Rev on Linux look amateurish).
 Furthermore, the script editor of Rev 3.0 is also quite unusable, since it
slows down to a crawl with a script with 2000 lines (it's even noticeably
slow on a script of 36 lines).

I know my Linux laptop is not the fastest (1.6ghz intel atom), but the
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Michael | 6 Oct 20:30

[ANN] VisualHubbaHubba utility (Mac)

Hi:

VisualHub shut its doors a couple days ago, but the week before I had
written a helper tool for it with Revolution 2.9. I have placed the app at
<http://www.kerflooey.com/VisualHubbaHubba/> in case anybody wants to use it
or critique it. 

VHH provides a drag and drop interface to create user-sortable playlists of
video files so that multiple DVD-video disc images can be created in batch
mode using the playlists, for example overnight.

VisualHub is Mac-only and so is my app, since it also writes an Applescript
as its final output.

Thanks,

m

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Trevor DeVore | 6 Oct 16:17

Thrift library?

HI,

Does anyone have a Thrift library <http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/ 
 > written in Revolution?

Regards,

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Tiemo Hollmann TB | 6 Oct 16:00

OT: First steps with Valentina ...

Hello,

I am just making my first steps with valentina, switching from SQLite. So
far everything works fine. I created my db, tables, filled the tables with
datas, and now I just stuck to get the data out of the DB, because I am not
a SQL expert. With SQLite I coded:

            put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tSqlSting) into tList

to get my selected datas as a sting. With Valentina I tried:

            put VDataBase_SqlSelect(gDBRef, tSqlSting) into tList

and I get a cursor back. Now I am missing the command to get the data from
this cursor. Or am I on the wrong lane?

Thanks for any hint

Tiemo

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Bernard Devlin | 6 Oct 13:44

more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live

Since I've now had to revert to using Rev 2.6.1 from 3 years ago, I need to
convert various stacks to 'legacy format'.  After doing this with some of
stacks, I then found that they were still in a post 2.7 format.  I thought
I'd made a mistake and went over it many times using Rev 3.0 and 2.6.1, but
the stacks simply wouldn't convert.  I was reduced to examining the stacks
in a text editor to see that they did indeed say 2.4, but then as soon as I
quit Rev 3.0 they would not load in 2.6.1, and looking at them again in a
text editor, they were back in 2.7 formt.  But yesterday I was able to save
my performance test stack in legacy format (maybe it was written on 2.6.1
though, I can't remember).  I just opened it in 3.0, and saved it in 2.6.1
as legacy and it remained as legacy after rev 3.0 quit.

But here's what I'm seeing with some stacks:

[user <at> localhost ~]$ ls *.rev
perf-test-leg.rev test-legacy.rev
[user <at> localhost ~]$ more test-legacy.rev
#!/bin/sh
# MetaCard 2.4 stack
# The following is not ASCII text,
# so now would be a good time to q out of more^L
[user <at> localhost ~]$ more test-legacy.rev
      <<<---- REV 3.0 was quit just before this point
REVO2700�revNavigator 1 �R��global
gScriptBuddyIDarray,gScriptBuddyLineArray,gSB
UpdateSelection,gSBLeadSpaces

I had thought maybe it was because these stacks were in the plugins folder
of 2.6.1 that they were being reverted on exit from 3.0.  But then I saved
one of them to my home directory, and checked it was in 2.4 format.  But as
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