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Graeme Geldenhuys | 1 Nov 08:50
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[OT] New "free" IDE from Trolltech

Has anybody seen this one...?

   http://trolltech.com/developer/qt-creator

It seems CodeGear is getting stiff competition from all sides now!
RemObjects took over the .NET side.  Eclipse from the Java side. Free
Pascal/Lazarus taking over the Delphi native side (my personal
opinion). And now TrollTech wants to take over there C/C++ side.  Poor
company [CodeGear] must be pretty worried by now - their future seems
more and more uncertain by the day.

Regards,
  - Graeme -

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Andrea Mauri | 1 Nov 11:13
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Re: intrepid and lazarus

It seems not so easy to install fpc 2.3.
I tried your link, after the fist step:

$MAKE all OPT='-gl -O3p3'  PP=ppc386

I got:
Makefile:2261: *** No libgdb.a found, supply NOGDB=1 to disable debugger support.  Stop.

So I used:
make all OPT='gl -O3p3' NOGDB=1 PP=ppc386

and I got this error and the compilation aborted:

/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/compiler/ppc386 -XX -CX -Ur -Xs -O2 -n
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/rtl/units/i386-linux -Fisrc -FE.
-FUunits/i386-linux gl -O3p3 -di386 -dRELEASE src/aspell.pp
aspell.pp(1580,1) Error: Illegal expression
aspell.pp(1580,10) Fatal: Syntax error, ";" expected but "identifier ASPELL_LOADED" found
Fatal: Compilation aborted
make[5]: *** [aspell.ppu] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/packages/aspell'
make[4]: *** [fpc_smart] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/packages/aspell'
make[3]: *** [aspell_smart] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/packages'
make[2]: *** [packages_smart] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc'
make[1]: *** [build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc'
make: *** [fpcsrc/build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2
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Andrea Mauri | 1 Nov 11:19
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Re: intrepid and lazarus

Again, I got the previous error downloading fpcbuild.zip from
http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var
While using fpc.zip and running:
make all OPT='gl -O3p3' PP=ppc386
I got:

/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/compiler/ppc386 -di386
-Fl/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/libgdb/linux/i386 -Ur -Xs -O2 -n -Sg
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/rtl/units/i386-linux
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/fv/units/i386-linux
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/gdbint/units/i386-linux
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/regexpr/units/i386-linux
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/fcl-base/units/i386-linux
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/fcl-xml/units/i386-linux
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/chm/units/i386-linux -FE.
-FUunits/i386-linux -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.2 -Flinclude
-Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf gl -O3p3 -dRELEASE fp.pas
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
fp.pas(566,1) Error: Error while linking
fp.pas(566,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping
Fatal: Compilation aborted
make[4]: *** [fp] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/ide'
make[3]: *** [buildfp] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/ide'
make[2]: *** [gdb] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/ide'
make[1]: *** [ide_all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc'
make: *** [build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2
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Vincent Snijders | 1 Nov 11:43
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Re: intrepid and lazarus

Andrea Mauri schreef:
> It seems not so easy to install fpc 2.3.
> I tried your link, after the fist step:
> 
> $MAKE all OPT='-gl -O3p3'  PP=ppc386
> 
> I got:
> Makefile:2261: *** No libgdb.a found, supply NOGDB=1 to disable debugger support.  Stop.
> 
> 
> So I used:
> make all OPT='gl -O3p3' NOGDB=1 PP=ppc386
> 
> and I got this error and the compilation aborted:
> 
> /home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/compiler/ppc386 -XX -CX -Ur -Xs -O2 -n
-Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/rtl/units/i386-linux -Fisrc -FE.
-FUunits/i386-linux gl -O3p3 -di386 -dRELEASE src/aspell.pp
> aspell.pp(1580,1) Error: Illegal expression
> aspell.pp(1580,10) Fatal: Syntax error, ";" expected but "identifier ASPELL_LOADED" found
> Fatal: Compilation aborted

You got a buggy version of the source snapshot. As you noticed (with 
fpc.zip), today's snapshot doesn't have it (also fixed in fpcbuild.zip).

Vincent
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Vincent Snijders | 1 Nov 11:57
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Re: intrepid and lazarus

Andrea Mauri schreef:
> Again, I got the previous error downloading fpcbuild.zip from
> http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var
> While using fpc.zip and running:
> make all OPT='gl -O3p3' PP=ppc386
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
> fp.pas(566,1) Error: Error while linking
> fp.pas(566,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping

See wiki:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l
and FAQ:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Faq#I_receive_an_error_during_the_linking_that_states_.2Fusr.2Fbin.2Fld_can.27t_find_-l.3Csome_lib.3E

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Andy Lawrie | 1 Nov 12:14
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Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile

I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking
at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a
language I already know.

I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I
understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install
for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each
of them.

I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only
file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is
lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe

Can anybody advise me what I should install please?

Many thanks in advance,

Andy

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Henry Vermaak | 1 Nov 12:25
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Re: Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile

2008/11/1 Andy Lawrie <andy <at> covalent.co.uk>:
> I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking
> at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a
> language I already know.
>
> I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I
> understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install
> for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each
> of them.
>
> I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only
> file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is
> lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe
>
> Can anybody advise me what I should install please?

have a look at the snapshot page:

http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/

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Vincent Snijders | 1 Nov 12:29
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Re: Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile

Andy Lawrie schreef:
> I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking
> at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a
> language I already know.
> 
> I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I
> understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install
> for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each
> of them.
> 
> I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only
> file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is
> lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe
> 
> Can anybody advise me what I should install please?

 From 
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89339&package_id=105599&release_id=631057
download
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/lazarus/Lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe?use_mirror=

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dominique | 1 Nov 14:50
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Re: Mac OS X : Certain properties not being persisted...

Thanks to who-ever fixed the ItemHeight problem. 
This is now working correctly with SVN 17166. 

Dominique.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:53:33 -0400, <dominique <at> savagesoftware.com.au>
wrote:
> Within the Carbon IDE, I've noticed certain properties are not being
> persisted consistently.
> 
> The first is the ItemHeight property of the TListBox. I've had to ammend
> the *.lfm file to make sure things work.
> Of course as soon as I change anything on the form, via the IDE, that
> value
> is lost and I need to add it in again into the lfm file manually.
> 
> Secondly, is the ImageList property if your TImageList exists on another
> form.
> For example if my MainForm has a TreeView and and empty form has an image
> list that is shared across several other units.
> If I don't have the ImageList form open in the IDE,  when I make a change
> to the MainForm, the TreeView's ImageList property get set to blank.
> If the ImageList form is open, then everything appears to work as
> advertised.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing this? Let me know before I submit a bug report.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Hess, Philip J | 1 Nov 15:08
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Re: [OT] New "free" IDE from Trolltech

Graeme,

Guess you didn't get the news about RemObjects and Codegear joining forces:

http://bitwisemag.com/

Also, TrollTech (now owned by Nokia) has had Qt Designer for years for C++ developers working with Qt. Not
sure what changes with Qt Creator (maybe just a new name?).

Thanks.

-Phil

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Subject: [Lazarus] [OT] New "free" IDE from Trolltech

Has anybody seen this one...?

   http://trolltech.com/developer/qt-creator

It seems CodeGear is getting stiff competition from all sides now!
RemObjects took over the .NET side.  Eclipse from the Java side. Free
Pascal/Lazarus taking over the Delphi native side (my personal
opinion). And now TrollTech wants to take over there C/C++ side.  Poor
company [CodeGear] must be pretty worried by now - their future seems
more and more uncertain by the day.
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