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George Lober | 1 Aug 04:09
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Re: Weird error problem

George Lober wrote:
> I hope you can help me with this one. Using FPC 2.0.4 and Lazarus 
> 0.9.23 rev.11447M. I am converting my main Delphi project to Lazarus 
> under Linux/GTK1 and I get an odd error. As far as I can determine the 
> error happens when a function in another unit is called the second time.
>
> The error dialog says:
> Raised exception class RunError(202)"
>
> The Execution Paused dialog after that says:
> Adress: $08062902
> Procedure: SYSTEMHANDLEERRORADDFRAME$LONGINT$POINTER$POINTER
>
> gdb backtrace:
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x0805f482 in fpc_raiseexception ()
> #1  0x0818d88d in ?? ()
> #2  0x00000000 in ?? ()
> (gdb)
>
> If I run under gdb without putting in "break fpc_raiseexception", when 
> the error happens the console shows:
>
> TApplication.HandleException Unknown Run-Time error : 202
> Stack trace:
> $08062511
> $08137BA8  XMLWRITEDD,  line 727 of ConvUnit.pas
> $080E7A51  TMZ__SVD,  line 102 of MZJ.pas
> $080F1D70  TPZ__CDDA,  line 8603 of PZJ.pas
> $080AD251  TH__UDSSCR,  line 12371 of HJ.pas
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Vincent Snijders | 1 Aug 10:16
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button glyphs in IDE dialogs

Today a couple of bug reports have been made about missing button glyphs in IDE 
dialogs. Should they be added? Or does it make the dialogs too busy? As far as I can 
see, the design guidelines http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/GUI_design_guidelines 
don't say anything about it.

Vincent
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Adrian Maier | 1 Aug 10:39
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Re: Future Directions for Lazarus/FPC ? pythonise... !

On 7/31/07, Michael Van Canneyt <michael <at> freepascal.org> wrote:
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> > Also, someone who comes on the freepascal website for the first time can
> > very easily get the impression that FPC lacks any kind of database access.
> > Just try it for yourself:
> > - imagine that that you know nothing about fpc
> > - go to www.freepascal.org
> > - go to "Documentation"
> > - open any of the "reference" docs.  You'll find nothing about sqldb,
> > mysql, firebird or postgres...
>
> That is because there is no reference documentation for these units.
> The reference documentation is exactly that: reference documentation.
> If none is available, we don't show it on the website.
>
> The correct place IMHO is under 'packages', where a small explanation
> of available packages should be placed. It badly needs updating.

Oh, now i see them.
I agree that the units that are not fully documented can't be included in
the "official" reference manual.

But in IMHO they deserve at least being mentioned in the "Documentation" page :
"in addition to the units documented in the reference manuals,
there are also many contributed/unofficial/whatever  units . You can find
more about these units <here>, <here> and <here>  ."

> > FPC surely has a lot of documentation,  but it's scattered and sometimes
> > you need to be very determined to find the piece of information that you
> > need.
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Mattias Gaertner | 1 Aug 11:12
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Re: button glyphs in IDE dialogs

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:16:34 +0200
Vincent Snijders <vsnijders <at> quicknet.nl> wrote:

> Today a couple of bug reports have been made about missing button
> glyphs in IDE dialogs. Should they be added? Or does it make the
> dialogs too busy? As far as I can see, the design guidelines
> http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/GUI_design_guidelines don't say
> anything about it.

I think, glyphs should be added. But it has low priority.

Mattias
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Michael Van Canneyt | 1 Aug 11:27
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Re: button glyphs in IDE dialogs


On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Mattias Gaertner wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:16:34 +0200
> Vincent Snijders <vsnijders <at> quicknet.nl> wrote:
> 
> > Today a couple of bug reports have been made about missing button
> > glyphs in IDE dialogs. Should they be added? Or does it make the
> > dialogs too busy? As far as I can see, the design guidelines
> > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/GUI_design_guidelines don't say
> > anything about it.
> 
> I think, glyphs should be added. But it has low priority.

I second that.

Michael.
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David Lyon | 1 Aug 16:11

Re: Lazarus foundation news


>
> David Lyon is currently finding out costs to set up a non-profit 
> organization in Germany.
>
> In the meantime I suggest that we draw a list of active supporters, to:
>
> 1) Finance the registration costs.
>
> 2) Be available to be 'member of the board', or to hold some of the 
> official positions required by the law.
>
> 3) Be available to carry on administrative duties.
>
> I don't know the German law. In Italy a non-profit has very low 
> registration costs and very light administrative duties, but a number 
> of persons which take responsibility is required.
I am checking with some Lawyers in Germany but I am fast getting the 
impression that it is not cheap.

As in most countries, the registration cost itself is not expensive. It 
is all the support paperwork that needs to be done to comply with all 
the requirements. This takes time, and lawyers normally already have it 
all done (by a legal secretary at a low wage) and then resell it when 
they can.  When it comes to Law, Lawyers usually have you over a barrel. 
And if you ever want to fight them, guess what, you need to hire another 
lawyer. Being friends with them and paying them a reasonable fee is 
always what I recomend. Cheapest option in the long term.

The costs that I am hearing are roughly 2500 euro for legal costs for
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Sebastian Günther | 1 Aug 16:26
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Problems with TListView (Win32)

Hi *,

I discovered that Lazarus 0.9.23 starts to support ownerdraw messages in 
TListView for Win32. As I urgently need this (as image lists still are 
not implemented for this control), I tried to use them, and faced some 
problems: (note that I used report style)

- ownerdraw messages for subitems don't work at all (although it seems 
to be implemented?)

- often, after having painted something manually, it gets overwritten 
immediately, i.e. cleared in white colour.

I tried to fix this, but without success. Has anybody any idea or can 
file this as a bug?

Regards,
Sebastian
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Michael Van Canneyt | 1 Aug 16:43
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Re: Lazarus foundation news


On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, David Lyon wrote:

> 
> >
> > David Lyon is currently finding out costs to set up a non-profit
> > organization in Germany.
> >
> > In the meantime I suggest that we draw a list of active supporters, to:
> >
> > 1) Finance the registration costs.
> >
> > 2) Be available to be 'member of the board', or to hold some of the official
> > positions required by the law.
> >
> > 3) Be available to carry on administrative duties.
> >
> > I don't know the German law. In Italy a non-profit has very low registration
> > costs and very light administrative duties, but a number of persons which
> > take responsibility is required.
> I am checking with some Lawyers in Germany but I am fast getting the
> impression that it is not cheap.
> 
> As in most countries, the registration cost itself is not expensive. It is all
> the support paperwork that needs to be done to comply with all the
> requirements. This takes time, and lawyers normally already have it all done
> (by a legal secretary at a low wage) and then resell it when they can.  When
> it comes to Law, Lawyers usually have you over a barrel. And if you ever want
> to fight them, guess what, you need to hire another lawyer. Being friends with
> them and paying them a reasonable fee is always what I recomend. Cheapest
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zeljko | 1 Aug 16:51

Re: Lazarus foundation news

On Wednesday 01 August 2007 16:11, David Lyon wrote:
> The costs that I am hearing are roughly 2500 euro for legal costs for
> Germany.

I think that here, in Croatia is much cheaper (cca. 1000 EUR) for non-profit 
organizations, but have to check all details.
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Graeme Geldenhuys | 1 Aug 16:53
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Re: Problems with TListView (Win32)

Hi Sebastian,

I've needed OwnerDraw for TListView (Linux and Windows) as well a few
months back and wasn't able to use it. I was told it wasn't
implemented yet. Like you, I noticed some code that made me think it
was implemented. False alarm. :)  Not sure what the status is at the
moment.

Regards,
  - Graeme -

On 01/08/07, Sebastian Günther <sguenther <at> gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> I discovered that Lazarus 0.9.23 starts to support ownerdraw messages in
> TListView for Win32. As I urgently need this (as image lists still are
> not implemented for this control), I tried to use them, and faced some
> problems: (note that I used report style)
>
> - ownerdraw messages for subitems don't work at all (although it seems
> to be implemented?)
>
> - often, after having painted something manually, it gets overwritten
> immediately, i.e. cleared in white colour.
>
> I tried to fix this, but without success. Has anybody any idea or can
> file this as a bug?
>
>
> Regards,
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