Todd Whiteman | 8 May 2013 00:59
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Komodo 8.0.2 update is available

Hello,

We've just released Komodo IDE/Edit 8.0.2. You can use the Help > Check for updates menu if you're already running Komodo 8, else you can download it directly from the links below:
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/downloads
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/downloads
You can visit the Komodo web site for a full overview of Komodo 8 features:
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide
Komodo IDE comes with a fully functional 21 day trial license, after which you will need to purchase a license to continue using the IDE. Komodo Edit is completely free and completely open source.

8.0.2 Bug Fixes

Komodo 8.0.2 is a bug fix release, with these major problems (and others) being addressed:
  • Code Intelligence: PHP - Better support for files that share the same basename
  • Debugging: Python - fixed Python remote debugging packages
  • Debugging: Ruby - added support for Ruby 2.0 debugging
  • Editor: Ensure caret position is visible when opening files
  • Linux: User Interface - fixed scrollbar drawing glitch when a side pane was opened
  • Mac: Retina - fixed disappearing results in the find results pane
  • Mac: Retina - fixed user interface reverting to large non-retina icons
  • Mini-map: Don't allow mini-map modification via drag/drop or text paste
  • Places: Fixes for drag/drop behaviour and updating folder reference icons
  • Windows: Allow Komodo to start on Windows 2003 machines
You can also view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

        http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.2
Contact Us

Please contact us on Komodo 8 feedback, questions and problems, using of one of the channels below:

forums    http://community.activestate.com/Komodo
email    http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
bugs    http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Komodo
irc    irc://irc.mozilla.org/#komodo

Cheers,
Todd

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Eric Promislow | 8 May 2013 00:46
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Re: Komodo 8.0.2 update (sanity check)

On 5/7/2013 3:41 PM, Todd Whiteman wrote:
 > Hello,
 >
 > We've just released Komodo IDE/Edit 8.0.2. You can use the /Help > Check for updates/ menu if your already
running Komodo 8, else you can download it directly from the links below:

"you're already running"

 >
 > http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/downloads http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/downloads
 >
 > [...]

 > Komodo 8.0.2 is a bug fix release, which addresses these problems outlined below, as well as others:
 >
 > * *Code Intelligence*: PHP - Better support for files that share the same base name

"basename"

 > * *Debugging: *Python -  [... rest fine]
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Nico den Boer | 26 Apr 2013 08:40
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Questions about autosuggest

As I wrote earlier:

<quote>
I'm evaluating Komodo Edit, version 8.0.1, build 12353, platform linux-x86_64.

For HTML and CSS it works wonderful. It is the best editor I have seen so far.
</quote>

I have redefined the key bindings to fit my preferences (tried to have roughly the same settings as Kate in
KDE). Attached my scheme.

Like many other programmers I use Autosuggest and Code completion to speed up coding. To me it is an
essential and the most important feature of any editor / IDE.

There are 3 steps important. With 2 of them Komodo does not work yet as I hoped:

1) If you are typing the name of a variable, then 'Word suggest' (I call it Autosuggest) should be able to
quickly provide information which variables are available, starting with a certain string. Example:
product_id
product_description
product_price

Approaches:

- In IDE's am used to a situation where I can type prod and then press ctrl-space, which pops a dialog with
those three options. Then using up and down arrow followed by enter I can make a choice.

- In the Linux console one tab is enough to complete the whole word if there is 1 options. If more, I can press
tab 2 times to see a list and then continue typing enough characters followed by a tab to complete the word.
- In Komodo I can press ctrl-space to cycle through the options. In contrary to the previous 2 approaches
this does not provide an instant insight in / overview which variables are available.

Question:
Is there any way (for Komodo users) to change this behavior to make it look more like the other approaches?
Or, what should I do to have a fast-working approach which provides instant overview like I described?

During this phase Komodo cycles trough all variables which are defined somewhere in the whole file instead
of variables defined so far. It means that the user will see irrelevant information, which implies the
risk of making a mistake (choosing a variable which is not instantiated yet).

Question:

Is there any way (for Komodo users) to change this behavior so Komodo will only show variables defined
earlier in the module or function definition?

2) After typing the name of a class instance followed by a dot, a dialog pops with the names of available
methods. This works as expected.
Suggestion: This dialog could also be used for the Autosuggest for variables.

3) Once a method is chosen, it is possible that it should be corrected. Example

        user = User()
# user had the following 2 methods:
        user.check_password()
        user.check_black_list()

Suppose I accidently chose check_password and now want to change it to check_black_list.
Instinctively I go with the cursor to check_| and then press ctrl-space to use autosuggest to chose
check_black_list. However, when I do that nothing happens ;)

Question:
Is there any way  (for Komodo users) to change this behavior?

Of course, as a new user, I do not fully understand Komodo yet. So any tip would be welcome.

Kind regards,
Nico
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Nico den Boer | 25 Apr 2013 14:38
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Autosuggest / code completion

Hi, I'm evaluating Komodo Edit, version 8.0.1, build 12353, platform linux-x86_64.

For HTML and CSS it works wonderful. It is the best editor I have seen so far.

If I try to code in Python (a Django project) I have a problem. Perhaps I am doing something wrong, perhaps
these are functions of Komodo IDE or perhaps I found bugs ;)

In my Django project I have defined one model (Task) which is a subclass of django.db.models
In the code it is first instantiated like
task = Task()
As soon as I type task. Komodo starts to scan packages.
Then I see an error:
"evaluating 'task' at tasks.py#502. Could not resolve 'objects' getattr on <class Task> in (blob
'models', []) (error determining completions)

There is no problem with the built-in models or any other classes in Django.
Komodo can also find functions in my project. Only the models which are defined cannot be found.

Of course I have checked edit / preferences / Languages / Python / Additional Python import directories.
There I have the project directory, relevant dist-packages and site-packages directories.

Looking around to what is causing this, it looks like Komodo requires a Django model to have an 'objects'
property with an instantion of a models.Manager.
Is this true? If so, is there any way to get around that (apart from modifying existing code)?

Any input would be highly appreciated.

Nico

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Dave Cottlehuber | 19 Apr 2013 14:16
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changing printer gutter size

Hi,

Is there any way to control the printer gutter size? The left-hand
gutter is almost 2" when I print in OSX.

A+
Dave
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Todd Whiteman | 27 Mar 2013 22:41
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Komodo 8.0.1 update now available

Hello,

We've just released Komodo IDE/Edit 8.0.1. You can use the Help > Check for updates menu if your already running Komodo 8, else you can download it directly from the links below:
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/downloads
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/downloads
You can visit the Komodo web site for a full overview of Komodo 8 and all of its newest features:
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide
Komodo IDE comes with a fully functional 21 day trial license, after which you will need to purchase a license to continue using the IDE. Komodo Edit is completely free and completely open source to boot.

8.0.1 Bug Fixes

Komodo 8.0.1 is a bug fix release, which addresses the problems outlined below, as well as others:
  • Auto Abbreviations - removed HTML based auto abbreviations, as they were more a hindrance then a help
  • IME - work correctly with Google's IME applications
  • Language Detection - recognize "double" file extensions, e.g. 'foo.html.erb' as RHTML
  • Linux - fixed install related issues regarding incorrect symlinking
  • Mac OS X Horizontal Scrolling - should now work correctly for trackpad and magic mouse
  • Node.js Debugging - allow debugging with Node.js 0.10
  • Projects - ensure project related menus and find hooks work after switching projects
  • Shutdown - fixed case where Komodo could refuse to shutdown
  • Start Page - have recent files and projects load correctly at startup
  • Toolbox - hide obsolete samples, added a macro that lets the user easily restore them
  • User Interface - show Places file icons when using a Retina/HiDPI display
You can also view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

        http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.1

Komodo IDE Licenses

A reminder that Komodo IDE 8 licenses are on sale until until March 31st, 2013:
  • $245 for new licenses (regular price $295)
  • $136 to upgrade from Komodo IDE 7 (regular price $168)
I do recommend including an Upgrades and Support subscription when you buy or upgrade a Komodo IDE license, as you'll receive the following benefits:
  • only $87 per year thereafter (instead of $136) to keep current with the latest release
  • you'll get fantastic support from ActiveState
  • you are entitled to any new Komodo releases we make within the subscription year
  • and it's only $69 to add the Upgrades and Support subscription when you upgrade an existing Komodo IDE 7 license before March 31st (regular price $87)
Contact Us

Please contact us on Komodo 8 feedback, questions and problems, using of one of the channels below:

forums    http://community.activestate.com/Komodo
email    http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
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irc    irc://irc.mozilla.org/#komodo

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Todd Whiteman | 7 Mar 2013 21:26
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Komodo 8.0.0 released

Hello,

The official Komodo IDE/Edit 8.0.0 release is now available. You can download it directly from the links below (note that there is no auto update from Komodo 7):
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/downloads
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/downloads
Komodo IDE comes with a fully functional 21 day trial license, after which you will need to purchase a license to continue using the IDE. Komodo Edit is completely free and completely open source to boot.
New Features

Please visit the Komodo web site for a full overview of Komodo 8 and all of its newest features:
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide
As a summary, these are the major features we've added or changed in Komodo 8:
  • User Interface - updated styling, modernized icon sets, toolbar changes, theming
  • Floating Side Panes - undocking of side pane UI elements
  • Mini-map - editor scrolling, showing a 10,000 foot view of your code
  • Open Files - easier access to opened files, grouped by type
  • Auto Abbreviations - templates - reducing the need to write boilerplate code
  • Conditional Snippets - programmatically controlled snippets
  • Fast Open Shortcuts - making it faster to access commonly used files and directories
  • Mac OS X - Cocoa 64 bit, Retina support and native full screen integration
  • Updated Mozilla Code Base - now based on top of Mozilla 18
You can also view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

        http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.0
Komodo IDE Licenses

Komodo IDE 8 licenses are on sale until until March 31st, 2013:
  • $245 for new licenses (regular price $295)
  • $136 to upgrade from Komodo IDE 7 (regular price $168)
I do recommend including an Upgrades and Support subscription when you buy or upgrade a Komodo IDE license, as you'll receive the following benefits:
  • only $87 per year thereafter (instead of $136) to keep current with the latest release
  • you'll get fantastic support from ActiveState
  • you are entitled to any new Komodo releases we make within the subscription year
  • and it's only $69 to add the Upgrades and Support subscription when you upgrade an existing Komodo IDE 7 license before March 31st (regular price $87)
Contact Us

Please contact us on Komodo 8 feedback, questions and problems, using of one of the channels below:

forums    http://community.activestate.com/Komodo
email    http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
bugs    http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Komodo
irc    irc://irc.mozilla.org/#komodo

Cheers,
Todd
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Todd Whiteman | 22 Feb 2013 07:36
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Komodo 8.0.0-rc1 now available to preview

Hello,

The first Komodo IDE/Edit 8.0.0 release-candidate is now available for 
testing. You can download it directly from the links below, or use /Help 
 > Check for Updates/ if you've using the beta:

    http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/downloads
    http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/downloads

We are now nearing the final stages of the Komodo 8 release process, 
with all major features being in place. We'll now concentrate on 
finishing touches and perform bug fixes until the final release in March 
2013.

As a summary, these are the major features we've added or changed in 
Komodo 8:

  * *User Interface *- updated styling, monochrome icon set, toolbar
    changes, theming
  * *Floating Side Panes* - undocking of side pane ui elements
  * *Mini-map* - editor scroller, with a 10,000 foot view of your code
  * *Open Files* - showing grouped collections of opened files
  * *Auto Abbreviations* - templates common code idioms
  * *Conditional Snippets* - programmatically controlled snippets
  * *Fast Open Shortcuts* - making it easier to get to common code paths
  * *Mac OS X *- Cocoa 64 bit, Retina support and native full screen
    integration
  * *Updated Mozilla Code Base* - now based on top of Mozilla 18

There are additional screenshots and detailed feature information 
available on the ActiveState community site:
http://community.activestate.com/node/9343

You can also view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.0c1

Please contact us on Komodo 8 feedback, questions and problems, using of 
one of the mediums below:

forums http://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo
email http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
bugs http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Komodo
irc irc://irc.mozilla.org/#komodo

Cheers,
Todd

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Todd Whiteman | 8 Feb 2013 01:26
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Komodo 8.0.0-beta1 is now available to preview

Hello,

The first Komodo IDE/Edit 8.0.0 beta (pre-release) is now available for 
testing. You'll need to download it directly from here (there is no 
auto-update from 8.0.0 alpha 3):

    http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/downloads
    http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/downloads

We've now added the Komodo Edit bits as well, though note that the IDE 
beta build can be trialed by anyone (you don't need to hold a Komodo IDE 
license).

We will continue making Komodo 8 pre-release builds every 3-4 weeks, 
which will lead to an official Komodo 8.0.0 final release some time in 2013.

The major changes in Komodo 8.0.0 beta 1 are:

  * *User Interface*: We've revamped the Komodo user interface - we've
    got a shiny new logo, updated icon set and modernized styling. You
    can even choose an icon set you wish to use through Komodo's
    Appearance preferences - such as the Classic (Komodo 7) set.

    We'd love to hear your feedback on these changes (for good and for
    bad), so let us know how you feel and what you'd like to see improved.

  * *Mini-map*: Sitting right next to your editor scrollbar, the
    mini-map gives a high-level (10,000 foot) view of your code. It
    gives just enough details to allow you to quickly scroll and
    re-position the editor on a targeted section of code.

    **

  * *Open Files*: There is a new widget in the left pane that groups and
    lists all of the files you have opened. It groups the files by
    language and then sorts them - this is really useful if you have a
    lot of opened files. You can also hide the editor tabs completely,
    and just use the Open Files pane, giving you more vertical editing
    space.

    **

  *

    *Retina on Mac OS X*: Retina support has been enabled in this
    release - providing crystal clear high definition fonts for both the
    main editor and the interface. We've also enabled native full screen
    support with the OS, so it's more awesome to use Komodo on a Mac.

  * *Fast Open Shortcuts*: When using the fast open dialog, you can now
    make a shortcut to frequently used files and directories. For
    example, given the directory "/some/long/path/to/my/code", you can
    make a shortcut called "code", then when using the fast open dialog,
    simply typing "code/" will now show you the files of this directory
    without the need to type out the full path.

Known Issues:

  * Slow editor keypress events in some files (Mac OS X) - bug 97330
    <http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=97330>
  * Flickering of caret during typing in some cases (Mac OS X) - bug
    97214 <http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=97214>

Screenshots and additional feature information is available on the 
ActiveState community site:
http://community.activestate.com/node/9343

You can view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.0b1

You can contact us about Komodo 8 questions and problems using any of 
the mediums below:

forums http://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo
email http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
bugs http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Komodo
irc irc://irc.mozilla.org/#komodo

Cheers,
Todd

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Todd Whiteman | 17 Jan 2013 02:13
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Komodo 8.0.0-alpha3 now available to preview

Hello,

The third Komodo IDE 8.0.0 alpha (pre-release) is now available for testing. Existing Komodo 8 users can use the  'Help -> Check for Updates...' menu to update, otherwise you can download it directly from here:
http://downloads.activestate.com/Komodo/releases/8.0.0a3/
We will continue making Komodo 8 pre-release builds every 3-4 weeks, which will lead to an official Komodo 8.0.0 final release some time in 2013.

Note that Komodo Edit builds are not yet available, we'll be releasing the Edit bits when we reach the Beta phase. That said, the IDE alpha and beta builds can be trialed by anyone (you don't need to hold a Komodo IDE license).

The major changes in Komodo 8.0.0 alpha 3 are:
  • User Interface: We've revamped the icons used by Komodo - we're now using monochrome images based on the IcoMoon set, and we'll continue to modify the styling throughout the Komodo 8 release series. The toolbar has changed dramatically - with new icons and some items have been removed and/or replaced with a drop-down version. There are a few toolbar icons that still need tweaking.

    We'd love to hear your feedback on these changes (for good and for bad), so let us know how you feel and what you'd like to see improved.

  • Auto Abbreviations: We've made auto-abbreviations better - by making them run faster and improving the handling of soft characters and tabstops in the inserted snippets.

    Note that soft characters will now be consumed to the left and right of the cursor (before it was just to the right), so typing text will flow more naturally into auto abbreviations, e.g. when you type "if " in JavaScript, it triggers the "if" auto abbreviation and then typing a "(" will cause this soft brace to become hardened - whereas before it would have inserted an unwanted parenthesis.

  • Performance Tweaks: We've modified a number of components to improve Komodo's performance:

    • Find in Files: Noticeably faster - a 2x speed up over Komodo 7
    • Startup: Faster preference loading to improve startup time
    • Startup: Lazily loading of color schemes to improve startup time

You can view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

        http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.0a3

You can contact us about Komodo 8 questions and problems using any of the mediums below:

forums    http://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo
email    http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
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irc    irc://irc.mozilla.org/#komodo

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Todd Whiteman | 20 Dec 2012 01:25
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Komodo 8.0.0-alpha2 now available to preview

Hello,

The second Komodo IDE 8.0.0 alpha (pre-release) is now available for testing. Auto-updates from 8.0.0a1 are not enabled for Windows/Linux, so you'll need to download it from here:
http://downloads.activestate.com/Komodo/releases/8.0.0a2/
We will continue making Komodo 8 pre-release builds every 3-4 weeks, which will lead to an official Komodo 8.0.0 final release some time in 2013.

Note that Komodo Edit builds are not yet available, we'll be releasing the Edit bits when we reach the Beta phase next year. That said, the IDE alpha and beta builds can be trialed by anyone (you don't need to hold a Komodo IDE license).

The major changes in Komodo 8 are:
  • User Interface: We are aiming to have a more natural look and feel with the underlying operating system, so we've starting revamping the Komodo user interface, you'll notice the icons, toolbars, statusbars and side panes have all been tweaked, and we'll continue to modifying the styling throughout the Komodo 8 release series.

    The default layout for the left and right side panes now use an icon toolbar (at the bottom of the side pane), clicking on these icons will change the selected tab. Double-clicking on the main editor tab will hide/show all side panes.

    We'd love to hear your feedback on these changes (for good and for bad), so let us know how you feel and what you'd like to see improved.

  • Floating Panes: You now get the ability to detach individual side pane tabs (Places, Code Browser, Debug, Find Results, Breakpoints, etc...) into their own separate window, so you can now put your debugging pane on a completely separate monitor screen (if your lucky enough to have multiple monitors). Just use the mouse and right-click on the tab/icon you wish to move and you'll get the appropriate context menu.

    Another feature of this side pane work is that you can also combine multiple items into the one widget (e.g. places and code browser can be combined in the same left pane widget).

  • Auto Abbreviations: Komodo now provides automatic triggering for a selected group of toolbox abbreviations (snippets). This makes developing code faster, smarter and easier, and your in complete control of the content getting inserted.

    For example, in Python, typing "def " will now trigger the "def" snippet inside of your Komodo toolbox, which expands into a full Python method declaration.

  • Conditional Snippets: It's now possible to use JavaScript code within a snippet, so you can programatically determine the snippet contents at runtime.

    Komodo allows the use of Embedded JavaScript (EJS) inside of the snippet text, which will be dynamically executed inside of Komodo's JavaScript environment, and as such it has full access to the Komodo JavaScript API.
You can view the release notes for a full list of changes in Komodo 8:

        http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/8.0/releases/ide.html#bug_fixes-8.0.0a2

You can contact us about Komodo 8 questions and problems using any of the mediums below:

forums    http://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo
email    http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-discuss
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Cheers,
Todd

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