Equinox 3.2 on J9/ARM problem

Re: Equinox 3.2 on J9/ARM problem

Re: Equinox 3.2 on J9/ARM problem

Alternatives to OSGi

Hi,
  I am currently evaluating frameworks for running services on server
as well as clients. WE would like soemthing that is light. The OSGi
framework looks pretty good.
   I would like to know if there are any other frameworks that OSGi
compares to. Have anyone in this mailing list have been in the same
position for evaluation different options?

 Thanks

Jorge Medina
Sr. Software Enginner

Re: Equinox 3.2 on J9/ARM problem

Re: Alternatives to OSGi

org.osgi.framework.bootdelegation=*

I am trying to get org.eclipse.equinox.http to run inside of eclipse and
delegate to my servlet in a plugin.  I got it to start and to call my plugin
Activator. But when I try to GET a page I fail with a class loading error, 
 <plugin name> was unable to load class <servletname>
Poking around in the call stack makes me think that the problem is that my class
is considered something that should be delegated to boot loader.  In the OSGi
console getprops shows 
org.osgi.framework.bootdelegation=*
Am I on the right track? I guess I can change this value but I'm a bit unclear
on to what value...
Thanks
John.

RE: How to use Extension bundles in equinox

RE: Using org.eclipse.equinox.http inside of an RCPapplication

Hi Kirby,

All of the server-side bundle in 3.3M3 work with 3.2 and 3.2.1.
E.g. you do not need to update org.eclipse.osgi in order to use the
server-side bundles.
--
The server-side bundles did not graduate prior to 3.2 so they will not
be updated in any of the 3.2 maintenance releases.

HTH
-Simon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: equinox-dev-bounces@... 
> [mailto:equinox-dev-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kirby Bohling
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:57 AM
> To: equinox-dev@...
> Subject: RE: [equinox-dev] Using org.eclipse.equinox.http 
> inside of an RCPapplication
> 
> Simon,
> 
>    Thanks for the input.  I use Eclipse 3.2.0 or 3.2.1 as the 
> basis for my target platform, if I try and use the Equinox 
> 3.3.0M6 it appears to update to a 3.3.0 for org.eclipse.osgi 
> plug-in.  If I try and use the stream build for Eclipse 3.2.1 
> it doesn't include the HTTP Registry.
> 
>     I'm not terribly anxious to swap out the osgi plug-in 
> with the minor number differing.  Is there any chance of a 
> 3.2.1 maintenance build that includes it? (I'm not sure if 
> 3.2.1 maintenance releases can add enhancements, I'm not 
> familiar enough with the release rules used by Eclipse or 
> Equinox).  According to the version numbering it appears to 
> be compatible with the 3.2.1, and the 3.2.1 maintenance uses 
> the 3.2.2 OSGi plug-in.
> 
>     I'd really like the source for everything is my primary 
> problem.  Taking the SDK for the 3.3M6 and getting what I 
> need out of out it and put into a
> 3.2.1 build including all of the source is a bit more surgery 
> then I want to try and pull off (source plug-ins aren't very 
> mix and match friendly, but I believe Eclipse/Equinox has a 
> plan to make it better).  I can setup a feature and releng in 
> my local VC system that pulls from the existing CVS.
> 
>     Locally I publish a target platform that other developers 
> use.  I try and ensure that anything we have source for is 
> included, and that every step is repeatable, and scripted.  
> If somebody has other suggestions, I'd be interested.
> 
>           Thanks,
>                 Kirby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Kaegi, Simon" <Simon.Kaegi@...>
> >Reply-To: Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@...>
> >To: "Equinox development mailing list" <equinox-dev@...>
> >Subject: RE: [equinox-dev] Using org.eclipse.equinox.http inside of 
> >anRCPapplication
> >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:46:16 -0500
> >
> >Hi Kirby,
> >
> >Go ahead use the org.eclipse.equinox.http.registry ;) The 
> server-side 
> >work is no longer "experimental", and graduated after
> >3.2 was released. The 3.3 bundles are 100% compatible and 
> tested with 
> >Eclipse 3.2.
> >
> >Also, I'd definitely suggest using the graduated bundles as they're 
> >supported and actively being worked on. For formal builds 
> you can use 
> >the latest 3.3 integration build.
> >
> >--
> >For the servlet api bundles...
> >o.e.e.servlet.api is a bundling of the servlet 2.3 api If you need 
> >servlet 2.4 javax.servlet [v2_4] is available from orbit.
> >I'd suggest using the orbit bundles as that seems to be the 
> direction 
> >things are going for 3rd party bundles in 3.3.
> >
> >--
> >I have manually edited the config.ini in the past however for 
> >integration in an RCP I would tend to use an event to trigger the 
> >startup of the http server. Currently you start the bundle to launch 
> >the HttpService, but it might be a good thing to have a 
> factory style 
> >method to start it. Hmm...
> >
> >HTH
> >-Simon
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: equinox-dev-bounces@... 
> > > [mailto:equinox-dev-bounces@...] On Behalf Of 
> Kirby Bohling
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:07 AM
> > > To: equinox-dev@...
> > > Subject: [equinox-dev] Using org.eclipse.equinox.http 
> inside of an 
> > > RCPapplication
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >    I'd like to host a servlet inside of an RCP application.
> > > I started looking into the Equinox implementations rather then 
> > > wrapping the embedded Tomcat or Jetty jars myself.  (I 
> wouldn't mind 
> > > just using the ones used by the help, but it seems odd that the 
> > > org.eclipse.tomcat plug-in requires the help plugins, and I'm not 
> > > sure how to add Servlets to it).
> > >
> > > I see that:
> > >
> > > org.eclipse.equinox.http
> > > org.eclipse.equinox.servlet.api
> > >
> > > Ship inside of the Equinox releases 3.2.0 and 3.2.1.  The 
> QuickStart 
> > > guide says to add:
> > > "org.eclipse.equinox.http.registry" and then use the extension 
> > > points.  The releases state that the http.registry 
> plug-in is still 
> > > in the incubator, which means that "while it could be quite 
> > > complete, it should be considered experimental".
> > >
> > > I was curious how "experimental" the registry is, and if 
> there was a 
> > > way to use the org.eclipse.equinox.http bundle without doing 
> > > something nearly identical to the registry bundle.  It sure looks 
> > > like I have to sub-class HTTP and HTTPListener and 
> allocate those.  
> > > Then I can call "HTTPListener.getService()".  At that point I can 
> > > get an "HttpService"
> > > object with which I can register and unregister servlets.
> > > Short of loading a fragment into the 
> org.eclipse.equinox.http bundle 
> > > and exposing the constructor thru a static method, I 
> don't see any 
> > > alternatives for directly allocating an HttpService.
> > >
> > > It appears I should be able to use the services API to get an 
> > > HttpService object, but at that point, I'd pretty much just be 
> > > writing "org.eclipse.equinox.http.registry" myself.  So I 
> think I'd 
> > > like to use the "org.eclipse.equinox.http.registry", as my other 
> > > alternatives aren't very nice.
> > >
> > > Another issue is that I can't find the tag for the 3.2.0 or
> > > 3.2.1 releases, and the source isn't included in the SDK 
> download.  
> > > For the 3.2.1 release, the qualifier is "v20060510", but the only 
> > > tags in the CVS Server 
> > > :pserver:anonymouse@...:/cvsroot/eclipse are:
> > > v20061031
> > > v20061012
> > > v20061002
> > >
> > > Am I looking in the wrong place?  (My guess is that I'm 
> looking for 
> > > the "serverside" CVS report, the initial commit message 
> of the files 
> > > say that they are adding the projects to the "main depot")
> > >
> > > I've gotten everything to work just fine using the HEAD of 
> > > "org.eclipse.equinox.http.registry", but I generally like 
> to use a 
> > > tagged and released version.
> > >
> > > Also the documentation here:
> > > http://www.eclipse.org/equinox/server/http_in_equinox.php
> > >
> > > Says to use "javax.servlet" from Orbit, but I instead used 
> > > "org.eclipse.equinox.servlet.api" that was released with the
> > > 3.2.1 Equinox.
> > > I'm not sure why I'd want to use the one from the Orbit project.  
> > > Curious if I would create issues for myself.
> > >
> > > Is there anyway to add a bundle to a generated config 
> file so it is 
> > > auto started?  I exported my RCP application grabbed the 
> config.ini 
> > > file and added two entries to startup http and http.registry.  
> > > Otherwise the Servlets aren't started up.
> > > It'd be nice if there were some way to include that in 
> the product 
> > > by directly editing the product file or, using a 
> mechanism similar 
> > > to the the UI for launching Run... -> OSGi Framework 
> Applications -> 
> > > Plug-ins Tab.
> > >
> > > Finally, Eclipse RCP and Equinox have been great to use in my 
> > > applications, thanks for all of the great infrastructure you've 
> > > provided.
> > >
> > >     Thanks in advance for any help on my questions,
> > >           Kirby
> > >
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RE: org.osgi.framework.bootdelegation=*

Hi John,

You probably should ask this in the user newsgroup. E.g.
eclipse.technology.equinox on news.eclipse.org.
I suspect you shoul not need to mess with framework bootdelegation.
Can you give a bit more detail and perhaps post your manifest and a
rough description of your bundle.

-Simon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: equinox-dev-bounces@... 
> [mailto:equinox-dev-bounces@...] On Behalf Of John J Barton
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:21 PM
> To: equinox-dev@...
> Subject: [equinox-dev] org.osgi.framework.bootdelegation=*
> 
> I am trying to get org.eclipse.equinox.http to run inside of 
> eclipse and delegate to my servlet in a plugin.  I got it to 
> start and to call my plugin Activator. But when I try to GET 
> a page I fail with a class loading error,  <plugin name> was 
> unable to load class <servletname> Poking around in the call 
> stack makes me think that the problem is that my class is 
> considered something that should be delegated to boot loader. 
>  In the OSGi console getprops shows
> org.osgi.framework.bootdelegation=*
> Am I on the right track? I guess I can change this value but 
> I'm a bit unclear on to what value...
> Thanks
> John.
> 
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