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Carol & Brian Hubbard | 2 Feb 2005 03:21

Flashing and the Beeb

Paul, I have managed to add BBC7 to the Turtleradio list, and now instead of
failing to connect my Audiotron does connect, buffers, and gives me a burst
of about half a second of sound, EXACTLY like BBC6 has always done.

I have downloaded the 3.2.25 firmware and am steeling myself to do it. I
never flashed my Atron before...it's running 3.0.27, but there have always
been a number of radio stations that I could never receive. I had assumed
these were in fact no longer around but Turtleradio never updated the site.

Did you have any problems with flashing?  Wish me luck.

Brian

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From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
[mailto:AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM]On Behalf Of Paul Webster
Sent: January 19, 2005 7:59 PM
To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM
Subject: Re: [AT] Before I bid on an Audioyron

> I have never been able to receive BBC6.
> I used to listen regularly to BBC7 via Audiotron but for the last month or
> two have not been able to receive it.
As I mentioned earlier - it did work for me. Also as mentioned by Kevin, it
is listed (and I presume working for him) on the TB site.
I played it from their list in my Audiotron.

Could it be a firmware issue for you. I am running 3.2.25 - ISTR that
included some streaming fixes.
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Grant Morris | 2 Feb 2005 15:14
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Re: Flashing and the Beeb

I have had this sudden burst of sound issue from certain radio stations, repeatedly. When I questioned tech
support as to why this station would be working fine one day and do this weird burst of sound the next (and
thereafter never work again) they said when you look at the URL it is non-existent. Although I initially
didn't believe it, it does in fact seem to be the case. Why the URL is there and working fine one day and the
next is gone and leads to this freaky burst of sound - which is always the same apparently buffered burst - is
a mystery akin to the Shroud of Turin and the 1000 other quirks of the AT.It would be great if someone could
explain it....
Grant
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carol & Brian Hubbard 
  To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:21 PM
  Subject: [AT] Flashing and the Beeb

  Paul, I have managed to add BBC7 to the Turtleradio list, and now instead of
  failing to connect my Audiotron does connect, buffers, and gives me a burst
  of about half a second of sound, EXACTLY like BBC6 has always done.

  I have downloaded the 3.2.25 firmware and am steeling myself to do it. I
  never flashed my Atron before...it's running 3.0.27, but there have always
  been a number of radio stations that I could never receive. I had assumed
  these were in fact no longer around but Turtleradio never updated the site.

  Did you have any problems with flashing?  Wish me luck.

  Brian

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
  [mailto:AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM]On Behalf Of Paul Webster
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Shabbyroad Media | 2 Feb 2005 16:30

Re: Flashing and the Beeb

My experience of BBC6 is that they regularly change the URL for the stream.
Perhaps that's it ? 

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From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum on behalf of Grant Morris
Sent: Wed 02/02/2005 06:14
To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM
Subject: Re: [AT] Flashing and the Beeb

I have had this sudden burst of sound issue from certain radio stations,
repeatedly. When I questioned tech support as to why this station would be
working fine one day and do this weird burst of sound the next (and
thereafter never work again) they said when you look at the URL it is
non-existent. Although I initially didn't believe it, it does in fact seem
to be the case. Why the URL is there and working fine one day and the next
is gone and leads to this freaky burst of sound - which is always the same
apparently buffered burst - is a mystery akin to the Shroud of Turin and the
1000 other quirks of the AT.It would be great if someone could explain
it....
Grant
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Carol & Brian Hubbard
  To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM
  Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:21 PM
  Subject: [AT] Flashing and the Beeb

  Paul, I have managed to add BBC7 to the Turtleradio list, and now instead
of
  failing to connect my Audiotron does connect, buffers, and gives me a
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Bill Brannon | 2 Feb 2005 19:11
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Re: Flashing and the Beeb

I installed 3.2.25 yesterday and it was painless. Even retained most of my
settings. I saw your message and tried BBC6 and it works correctly.

Bill Brannon 

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  1. Flashing and the Beeb

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Date:    Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:21:12 -0800
From:    Carol & Brian Hubbard <thehubs <at> TELUS.NET>
Subject: Flashing and the Beeb

Paul, I have managed to add BBC7 to the Turtleradio list, and now instead of
failing to connect my Audiotron does connect, buffers, and gives me a burst
of about half a second of sound, EXACTLY like BBC6 has always done.

I have downloaded the 3.2.25 firmware and am steeling myself to do it. I
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Robin Mitchell | 3 Feb 2005 20:10

Re: Argosy HD-363N

On Saturday, January 29, 2005, 5:08:16 AM, Howard Abraham wrote:

> However, the true question was if it would be compatible with the
> AudioTron.  I copied about fifty CDs in WAV form from my music
> server to the NAS.  I then disabled my music server, added the NAS
> to my list of shares in the AT admin tool, and power cycled the AT.
> The AT detected all 60 songs without issue.  It plays them just
> fine, too.

> The Argosy HD-363N just works.  It's fast, inexpensive, easy,
> virtually silent, attractive, and barely larger than the 3 1/2" HH
> hard drive it houses.  It's fanless, but doesn't run hot.  While
> I've only had it running for a day, so far I have no reason not to
> recommend it.

Mine showed up last night, so I put the 250GB Seagate drive from my
old Linux box in it and I've been having nothing but trouble ever
since. Things started out OK; it formatted in a flash as you noticed
(in FAT32, so I suspect it's running some WinCE variant internally)
and I was able to copy my 45GB of MP3 files to it at about 3MB/sec.

But after that, things started getting weird.  I could connect to the
NAS drive through Windows Explorer and see all the directories and
files just fine, but when I ran TOCMaker and pointed it to the NAS, it
only saw 8 of the 190 directories in my music tree.  The AudioTron
seems to be doing the same thing; I can't tell if it's finding exactly
the same directories, but it's a small subset of everything on the
drive.

I tried creating a second shared folder on the Argosy and copying a
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Tony | 3 Feb 2005 20:44

Re: Argosy HD-363N

I have one here too although im not using it for music. Im seeing some new
issues no one has mentioned yet. I was planning on using it to stream movies
to my dvd player. The issues/problems ive found is it becomes some what
unstable.

Eg:
Last night I transferred gigs of movies to it with no problems (via ftp).
This morning I went to check how it did. I restarted the ftp session and I
could no longer connect 503 error. I then tried to check it threw "my
network" the drive after some considerable time showed me no data. I then
threw a web browser //storage found out that all setting had been wiped
away???

Rebooted device and all is well. This has happened once more so far this
afternoon.

File size limitation is an issue as the drive will let you transfer lets say
a 8 gig file and then report the file size at less than half rendering the
file useless..

Being so use to NTFS format I guess Fat32 has restrictions.
I will say though ftping files to it is like lightening im pushing close to
5 megs a second to it.

Now im thinking it may only be good for data backup and music storage for my
audiotron.

Waiting to see how others report back especially Robin's issues.
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Tim Hill | 3 Feb 2005 20:56
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Re: Argosy HD-363N

Here's a guess: What kind of folder names are you using? Are the ones
it's finding "simple" names (like 8.3 names without spaces)? There are
many flavors of the SMB protocol out there and it's possible that AT is
using one that isn't compatible with the NAS box.

--Tim

Robin Mitchell wrote:

>On Saturday, January 29, 2005, 5:08:16 AM, Howard Abraham wrote:
>
>
>
>>However, the true question was if it would be compatible with the
>>AudioTron.  I copied about fifty CDs in WAV form from my music
>>server to the NAS.  I then disabled my music server, added the NAS
>>to my list of shares in the AT admin tool, and power cycled the AT.
>>The AT detected all 60 songs without issue.  It plays them just
>>fine, too.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>The Argosy HD-363N just works.  It's fast, inexpensive, easy,
>>virtually silent, attractive, and barely larger than the 3 1/2" HH
>>hard drive it houses.  It's fanless, but doesn't run hot.  While
>>I've only had it running for a day, so far I have no reason not to
>>recommend it.
>>
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Robin Mitchell | 3 Feb 2005 22:22

Re: Argosy HD-363N

On Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:56:57 AM, Tim Hill wrote:

> Here's a guess: What kind of folder names are you using? Are the ones
> it's finding "simple" names (like 8.3 names without spaces)? There are
> many flavors of the SMB protocol out there and it's possible that AT is
> using one that isn't compatible with the NAS box.

That's a good thought, and I should have mentioned it -- none of them are simple 8.3 names, but I don't see any
obvious correlation between the ones that work and the ones that don't.  And again, it's not just the AT that
isn't seeing them; TOCMaker isn't either.

For what it's worth, the AT is seeing the following three directories

Acoustic Eidolon
Ad Vielle Que Poura
Al Stewart

while missing others like

Beatles
Judy Collins

An eclectic collection, to be sure, but rather smaller than I wanted...

Still, it's a good theory.  I tried renaming all the artist and album directories in my small collection to
8.3 names, with no effect at all on the AT.  However, TOCMaker did see one directory that it had missed
previously, but still missed another one.  (I didn't try renaming all the files, since it would have been a
*lot* of work and seemed unlikely to affect the directory scanning.)

   -- Robin
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Tim Hill | 3 Feb 2005 23:46
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Re: Argosy HD-363N

Curious indeed. I think you're right in focusing on TOCMaker -- if you
can get that fixed, I think the AT fix will come along for the ride.

To make sure we're on the same page: Explorer can see *all* the folders,
but TOMMaker, when run on the same computer cannot? What do you see from
(say) a Command (MS-DOS) prompt using the DIR command? I've not used
TOCMaker (though I'm familiar with its function)... does it only list
directories that have songs in them? In which case, it's driven by the
*content* of the folder, and not the name?

--Tim

Robin Mitchell wrote:

>On Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:56:57 AM, Tim Hill wrote:
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>
>
>>Here's a guess: What kind of folder names are you using? Are the ones
>>it's finding "simple" names (like 8.3 names without spaces)? There are
>>many flavors of the SMB protocol out there and it's possible that AT is
>>using one that isn't compatible with the NAS box.
>>
>>
>
>That's a good thought, and I should have mentioned it -- none of them are simple 8.3 names, but I don't see any
obvious correlation between the ones that work and the ones that don't.  And again, it's not just the AT that
isn't seeing them; TOCMaker isn't either.
>
>For what it's worth, the AT is seeing the following three directories
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Crum, Robert J (Sales Ops-Cupertino | 4 Feb 2005 00:36
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Re: Argosy HD-363N

Just another thought....

I purchased a Tritton NAS last summer (runs Linux), and wanted to copy
music files to it from my WinMe (don't laugh) machine.  Basically, I
could never get it to work reliably, and the bottom line from the
Tritton people is that WinME had crappy networking.  I would find that I
couldn't see certain folders, the WinME machine couldn't connect to the
NAS, I could copy about 10 files to it before I started getting
networking errors, filename with 'special characters' in them would be
munged, etc.  

So I bagged the WinME machine in favor of a new WinXP machine, and the
whole system has worked flawlessly.

So....FWIW...if this Argosy device is running WinCE as someone
suggested, you might just be seeing an artifact of less than robust
networking.

Cheers,
Bob

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From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
[mailto:AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM] On Behalf Of Robin Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:23 PM
To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM
Subject: Re: [AT] Argosy HD-363N

On Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:56:57 AM, Tim Hill wrote:
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