Arnt Gulbrandsen | 8 Jan 19:41 2005
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Re: Overkill?

Henry Turner writes:
> You had such a great review for the Entech Number Cruncher 203.2, that
> I tried looking for it online.  There were many other great reviews,
> but no one is selling them (Amazon reports they are not produced
> currently.)  Has the Entech Number Cruncher 203.2 gone the same route
> as the AT?

All the sane DACs seem to be gone. There's shoddy crap for the 5.1
market and highly desirable $$$$$ highend ones for the golden-eared
market, but nothing in between any more.

The chap at neighbourhood high-end store told me to look for a used one
on ebay. There's supposed to be lots of good used ones there. Keep in
mind that the AT has toslink output.

Arnt

Kevin P. Fleming | 8 Jan 19:59 2005
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Re: Overkill?

Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:

> The chap at neighbourhood high-end store told me to look for a used one
> on ebay. There's supposed to be lots of good used ones there. Keep in
> mind that the AT has toslink output.

TOSlink is easy to convert to coax, doesn't cost much.

There are lots of good DACs on Audiogon, many under $400. I see four or
five MSB Link DAC IIIs (even with the upsampling upgrade), which is a
darn fine piece of equipment for the money.

Tim Hill | 8 Jan 20:17 2005
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Re: Overkill?

No, there are still some mid-priced ones around. How about the
well-reviewed Perpetual Technologies P-3A? It's $800, which is hardly
cheap, but it's certainly not in the $$$ audiophile range.

There are also an increasing number of preamps with built-in DACs that
actually surpass the audiophile stand-alone D/As of a few years ago.
Bryston has a nice one, for example.

--Tim

Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:

> Henry Turner writes:
>
>> You had such a great review for the Entech Number Cruncher 203.2, that
>> I tried looking for it online.  There were many other great reviews,
>> but no one is selling them (Amazon reports they are not produced
>> currently.)  Has the Entech Number Cruncher 203.2 gone the same route
>> as the AT?
>
>
> All the sane DACs seem to be gone. There's shoddy crap for the 5.1
> market and highly desirable $$$$$ highend ones for the golden-eared
> market, but nothing in between any more.
>
> The chap at neighbourhood high-end store told me to look for a used one
> on ebay. There's supposed to be lots of good used ones there. Keep in
> mind that the AT has toslink output.
>
> Arnt
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Arnt Gulbrandsen | 8 Jan 20:46 2005
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Re: Overkill?

Kevin P. Fleming writes:
> TOSlink is easy to convert to coax, doesn't cost much.

Just being kind to the married chaps. ;) It's so very awkward when one
has bought another expensive tech toy, and it doesn't work. Such is the
seed from which quarrels grow.

Arnt

Re: Linksys NSL-U2 and AT

Also, I have read on some other forums that anything above 80GB is not recognized by the NLSU2.  Any one using a
larger drive with it?  My collection is quickly approaching 60 GB and I would expect that I will hit the 80 GB
mark over the next year.

On another note, there are a lot of sites that document how to reload the device with a version of Linux, any
one have experience with that?  Easy, hard?  Any issues getting the Audiotron to work with it?

Bill Marriott

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Subject: [AT] Linksys NSL-U2 and AT

Has anyone successfully used the AT with a *Linksys* *NSL*-U2?  I don't
see why it wouldn't work like any other NAS device, just checking.

Thanks,

Kyle

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Hamish Guthrey | 9 Jan 01:53 2005
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Re: Overkill?

A clinet of mine has a pair of B&W 802s running off a Plinius SA102 power
and Plinius CD-LAD pre (www.PliniusAudio.com).  We added an AT running
through a Meridian 566 DA, with stunning results.  It would be interesting
to see if a SPDIF mod for the AT is possible, as the TosLink connection is
definatly the weakest link in the chain.

Another client is using an AirPort Express based music system, running
through a Benchmark Media DAC1
(http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/digital/dac1/default.asp).  This is a top
quality pro DA with a variable level, meaning he can run it straight into
his poweramp.  Not the cheapest DA on the market (US$900ish), but even so it
is excellent value.

....if only I could afford some of these toys in my own house... :)

Cheers,
-h

Michael Cosner | 9 Jan 08:09 2005

Re: Linksys NSL-U2 and AT

Bill,

I have an NSLU2 serving AT MP3 files.  Mine has two 120 GB Maxtor drives.
Previously I had two brand new 300 GB Maxtor drives on it, and while they
worked for a while, they both were reported as un-writable by the NSLU2.
There is no way to diagnose them when connected to the NSLU2, because they
must be reformatted in the NSLU2's file system.  They reformatted without
error under Windows NTFS, and I figured that there was some NSLU2.Maxtor 300
incompatibility.

In my opinion, the NSLU2 is slow - but good enough to never cause the AT a
problem.  It occasionally (every couple of weeks?) locks up, and must be
reset.

It's better than keeping a PC running all the time.

-mike

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[mailto:AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM] On Behalf Of Marriott, Bill (US -
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Sent: 2005-Jan-08 2:24 PM
To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM
Subject: Re: [AT] Linksys NSL-U2 and AT

Also, I have read on some other forums that anything above 80GB is not
recognized by the NLSU2.  Any one using a larger drive with it?  My
collection is quickly approaching 60 GB and I would expect that I will hit
the 80 GB mark over the next year.
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Steve Lemke | 9 Jan 08:12 2005

Re: Linksys NSL-U2 and AT

Earlier, Bill Marriott wrote:
> Also, I have read on some other forums that anything above 80GB is not
> =
> recognized by the NLSU2.  Any one using a larger drive with it?  My =
> collection is quickly approaching 60 GB and I would expect that I will
> =
> hit the 80 GB mark over the next year.
>
> On another note, there are a lot of sites that document how to reload =
> the device with a version of Linux, any one have experience with that?
>  =
> Easy, hard?  Any issues getting the Audiotron to work with it?

I looked at the NLSU2, but chose the Buffalo Linkstation since it was a
completely self-contained box (internal drive).  I've heard some people
suggest that the throughput might be better given that the drive is
directly connected via IDE, but I don't know for sure what the NSLU2
bandwidth is on the USB port as compared to the 100baseT network
connector (so it's hard to say if USB vs. IDE is a limiting factor or
not).  In any case, the Linkstation consumes a mere 5 watts when idle
(drive off), 12-14 watts with the drive on, and (for my usage) tends to
average about 7 watts.  It's small and quiet too.

The Linkstation is also available in a hacker form called the Kuro box,
which comes without a drive.  There's lots of support for doing all
sorts of things with the Kuro box, though much of the info is from
Japan where it was introduced.

The Linkstation has no problems serving files over SMB to my AudioTron
(something my PC no longer does).  In addition, I recently loaded
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Tony Przygienda | 10 Jan 12:35 2005

Re: Overkill?

Hamish Guthrey wrote:

>A clinet of mine has a pair of B&W 802s running off a Plinius SA102 power
>and Plinius CD-LAD pre (www.PliniusAudio.com).  We added an AT running
>through a Meridian 566 DA, with stunning results.  It would be interesting
>to see if a SPDIF mod for the AT is possible, as the TosLink connection is
>definatly the weakest link in the chain.
>
>
I looked into that a while ago. The output is on the board right beside
the toslink, just
needs to be soldered on. The hard part is that a couple of resistors are
missing but
if the AT board is simply built of some reference design (which it looks
like), it should
be possible to figure out which ones. There I gave up, I'm a software
guy, for christ sake ;-)

I played with coax/toslink somehow on other things and I must say, the
difference is not worth
bothering (at least on my gear which admittingly is not in the class of
B&Ws and 566DA
[next step, but I'm torn right now towards Quads]). What made some
difference was
an expensive TosLink cable (stranded glass) which for mere 100$ or so
improved
what I hear compared to a $5 cheapo-plastic one.
The digital coax I have on all other gear often causes ground loops and is
more fidgety (even gold-plated stuff needs to be reseted from time to
time, I opted
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Stephen Jackson | 12 Jan 05:12 2005

Re: Overkill?

Ok, you guys start talking high end audio.  I wasted my youth and money on
restoring old cars.  Now I have kids, so I have not much disposable
income.  Not crying poverty, but $1000 on audio gear is not going to happen.

I currently have a Kenwood receiver and small Infinity bookshelf
speakers.  I was assuming that I would get better sound by buying better
speakers.

So,

1.  Is this true?
2.  Is buying used speakers off the Internet a bad idea?
3.  Gathering that high end audio is a subjective experience, how can I
find out what speakers I might be interested in?

Thanks for any advice,

--Stephen
Still very happy with his Audiotron.

At 11:35 AM 1/10/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Hamish Guthrey wrote:
>
>>A clinet of mine has a pair of B&W 802s running off a Plinius SA102 power
>>and Plinius CD-LAD pre (www.PliniusAudio.com).  We added an AT running
>>through a Meridian 566 DA, with stunning results.  It would be interesting
>>to see if a SPDIF mod for the AT is possible, as the TosLink connection is
>>definatly the weakest link in the chain.
>>
>I looked into that a while ago. The output is on the board right beside
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