Seth Dotterer | 10 Mar 20:48 2005

Time has come...

The time has come to close this list.

We don't do this lightly - as this forum helped us make one of the
products most dear to many of the "Turtles" here at TB.  We really
viewed this list as a revolutionary way to listen to our customers, and
believe the product we ended up creating was from the sweat of our
employees, but from the passion of our customers.

But now, for a variety of reasons, this list has strayed a long way from
that, and no longer serves the purpose it was designed for.  There are
other places on the Internet where you can discuss these types of
products and accessories (on a personal note, I recommend AVS forums)
without us turning into an advertising show for competitors.

We'll keep your contact info - and if there is a reborn list in the
future, we'll make sure we drop you an invitation to rejoin us.

Thank you again, not just from me, but from everyone here at Turtle
Beach.

Best regards,

Seth Dotterer

Brent Aliverti | 10 Mar 19:46 2005

new squeezebox announced

For those of you thinking about picking up a new audio streamer, be aware
that Slim Devices has announced a new version of Squeezebox...shipping end
of the month. Looks like there are several notable enhancements over the
last version, but it still needs a PC running SlimServer of course.

http://www.slimdevices.com/
http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/discuss/2005-March/044702.html

Cheers
Brent

Jim | 8 Mar 03:07 2005
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Is this list closed

it got very quiet this afternoon...  Did TB finally
put the kabash on this list?

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at | 7 Mar 17:19 2005

Offline Discussion

To all...

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Seth Dotterer | 7 Mar 15:51 2005

Reminder about this forum.

Folks, this is what I get for having a busy weekend and not checking the
email.

I don't think there's any question that what happened this weekend was
in direct contradiction to what we've asked you to do when using this
list.  

I've asked Glenn to stop talking about his competitive endeavor in a
direct email.

I realize there's a lot of frustration about not having an AT
replacement - but I suggest potential developers look elsewhere for
their market research.  There are plenty of places on the Internet to do
this.  

We like to keep this list up - it's a great community.  However, if we
continue to get people who can't play by the rules, we will roll up the
list.

 -- seth

Chris Dickens | 7 Mar 14:17 2005
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Re: Developing replacement for AT

Reducing the size of the unit simultaneously means reducing the size of the
display and/or it's front-side controls.  Since the current Audiotron setup
is perfect, what he's asking for is to not lose that same form factor.  To
make it skinnier and not lose anything, you'd have to make it taller pushing
2U's of rack space with adapters and rack U's are a premium to any DJ or
other audio specialist.

--Chris

-----Original Message-----
Date:    Sun, 6 Mar 2005 22:15:40 -0600
From:    Michael Scott <mscott <at> PYEWACKET.ORG>
Subject: Re: Developing replacement for AT

Quoting Michael Wagner <michael <at> THEWAGNERS.CA>:

> >Same audio style case dimensions
>
> I'd rather have 2 form factor choices. I like my AT rack mounted for 
> when it goes with me inside a DJ head to a gig. But when I'm doing a 
> small gig,
> I prefer the SLIM form factor. Since the board inside the AT is really
> about the size of slim here, we could offer the same board in both form
> factors.

That might also be accomplished using mounting brackets.
I've purchases a small(ish) 24-port switch made by Hawking technologies. The
width of the case itself is quite a bit smaller than a 19" rack, but the
brackets are longer to extend out to the proper dimensions.

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Michael Wagner | 7 Mar 04:57 2005
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Re: Developing replacement for AT

At 3/6/05 03:10 AM  Sunday, JohnB wrote:
>Hope will still have an analogue output preferably better than the AT but at
>least no worse!

Be nice to have the "right" standard voltages for lineout.

Michael

http://home.cogeco.ca/~michaelwagner/personal-page.htm
"All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die" Sheryl Crow

Michael Wagner | 7 Mar 04:42 2005
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Re: Developing replacement for AT

At 3/5/05 11:42 AM  Saturday, andrew.winch <at> MINDSPRING.COM wrote:
>Not needing server side software is major.

I'd like to have my cake and eat it too.

Don't prohibit server side software ... i.e. I like the fact that the
"database" part of the squeezebox software runs on an upgradeable platform
of my choice.

So if this project is either open source or at least multi-sourced, I'd
like it if the server bits could run on the AT for people for whom that
works, but also on a server for those thus better served (pun intended).

>Same audio style case dimensions

I'd rather have 2 form factor choices. I like my AT rack mounted for when
it goes with me inside a DJ head to a gig. But when I'm doing a small gig,
I prefer the SLIM form factor. Since the board inside the AT is really
about the size of slim here, we could offer the same board in both form
factors.

Michael

http://home.cogeco.ca/~michaelwagner/personal-page.htm
"All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die" Sheryl Crow

Bram Dees | 6 Mar 16:18 2005
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Re: AUDIOTRON Digest - 4 Mar 2005 to 5 Mar 2005 (#2005-61)

> Date:    Sat, 5 Mar 2005 12:15:46 +0000
> From:    Glenn Richards <glenn <at> SQUIRRELSOLUTIONS.CO.UK>
> Subject: Developing replacement for AT
>
> Right... the project is a bit tentative at this stage, but a group of us
> are looking at developing a replacement for the Audiotron. We're
> currently building a prototype on an embedded development board, and
> aiming to have the following features:
>
>  * Support for MP3 (obviously), WAV, OGG and FLAC files
>  * Extensible architecture allowing new features/formats to be added
>  * USB interface for eg 802.11g interface
>  * Similar UI, front panel controls/display
>
> Additionally we're looking to possibly include the following options:
>
>  * Ability to plug in a USB hard disk and CD-ROM. The unit would then
>    function as "master", with other units on the same network operating
>    as "slave". CD-ROM would enable ripping to FLAC format.
>
>  * Web interface, as on the Audiotron
>
> Currently we are experimenting with an embedded development board, and I
> have a number of samples of a high quality Burr-Brown DAC with SPDIF
> capability.
>
> I have not included WMA or internet radio support in the above spec, as
> we're aiming this at the high quality audio market and 56Kbit/sec MP3
> streaming isn't quite up to audiophile standards! WMA is lossy (and
> proprietary!), and the intention here is to use FLAC as the primary
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Dave Bour | 6 Mar 13:48 2005
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Acceptable Price? was Developing replacement for AT

I'll through my hat into the ring here,
For a replacement "music only" device, with MP3, FLAC, WAV, No DRM
requirements and internet radio; no server side software required,
optical output and, web/ATTray type control, I'd consider as high as
$250 US.  For that, I would also expect ideally open source or at series
of API's available to develop 3rd party apps on.  That's my biggest
hestitation to jumping into any other products meeting my specs.
D.

Dave Bour
Desktop Solution Center
905.381.0077
dcbour <at> desktopsolutioncenter.ca
http://www.desktopsolutioncenter.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
[mailto:AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM] On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:10 AM
To: AUDIOTRON <at> MAILLIST.VOYETRA.COM
Subject: Re: [AT] Developing replacement for AT

What are you targeting, realistically, in terms of price?

I have a sneaking suspicion that people on this list, even those who've
replied to you that they're interested in this project, have *vastly*
differing ideas as to what a "reasonable" price they'd be willing to
pay.

Another random question, if I may:
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JohnB | 6 Mar 09:10 2005
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Developing replacement for AT

Hope will still have an analogue output preferably better than the AT but at
least no worse!

John

==============================
Date:    Sat, 5 Mar 2005 12:15:46 +0000
From:    Glenn Richards <glenn <at> SQUIRRELSOLUTIONS.CO.UK>
Subject: Developing replacement for AT

Right... the project is a bit tentative at this stage, but a group of us
are looking at developing a replacement for the Audiotron. We're
currently building a prototype on an embedded development board, and
aiming to have the following features:

  * Support for MP3 (obviously), WAV, OGG and FLAC files
  * Extensible architecture allowing new features/formats to be added
  * USB interface for eg 802.11g interface
  * Similar UI, front panel controls/display

Additionally we're looking to possibly include the following options:

  * Ability to plug in a USB hard disk and CD-ROM. The unit would then
    function as "master", with other units on the same network operating
    as "slave". CD-ROM would enable ripping to FLAC format.

  * Web interface, as on the Audiotron

Currently we are experimenting with an embedded development board, and I
have a number of samples of a high quality Burr-Brown DAC with SPDIF
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Gmane