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M H Stein | 1 Dec 01:05

RE: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

I was wondering just how you'd slip that INPUT$ in there, and without 
using a string variable at that; very nice!

You two are definitely the masters of arcane and unintuitive code.

mike
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From: 	Comet[SMTP:com3t@...]
Sent: 	Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM
To: 	<m100@...>
Subject: 	Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

Am I the only one who prefers the following line, which needs less typing for the "press any key" construct.

CLS:FORI%=239TO0STEP-1:LINE(0,0)-(I%,2^P
EEK(1693)-1),I%:NEXT:I%=FRE(INPUT$(1))

I just reused I% so as not to clobber another variable; the FRE function returns a number <32768, so it will fit.

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:32 PM, "Ron Wiesen" <ronw@...> wrote:

The BASIC statement shown below is generic because its 2^PEEK(1693)-1 phrase
optimizes the perfomance based upon the laptop Model type (M10x or M200).

CLS:FORI%=239TO0STEP-1:LINE(0,0)-(I%,2^P
EEK(1693)-1),I%:NEXT:FORI%=0TO0STEP0:IFL
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Ron Wiesen | 1 Dec 04:30

Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

Hello Comet:

I do like your reuse of variable I%, and the shorter construct for "press any
key".  But I don't like seeing the blinking cursor (at the top-left corner)
obscuring the moraine pattern.  What to do?  What to do?

Bubba say: "Git da Primordial Bit to leave her figgirprits on 'da udder side,
Ron".  Hmmmm, thanks Bubba.  The statement below ought to get the job done,
and it's even shorter than Comet's.

CLS:FORI%=0TO239:LINE(239,0)-(I%,2^PEEK(
1693)-1),I%:NEXT:I%=FRE(INPUT$(1))

Bubba say: "Dat's mo betta, an' it don't evin mess up 'da picher aster ya
pressis a key and gits da' Ok.  Hows ya makin out wid my idea fer da
programin' contest Ron?"

The program development is moving forward again Bubba.  I found and eliminated
that knarly bug that was messing up the results -- I made a typo error in one
of the statements.  So now I've moved on to the "paper design" of the screen
layout so that presentation of the results appear in a fashion that befits
your inspirational idea Bubba.  It's gonna be soooo cool!

Keeper of the Primordial Bit (born of the Big Bit Bang), -= Ron Wiesen =-

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From: "Comet" <com3t@...>
To: <m100@...>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit
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_ Comet | 1 Dec 04:35
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Fishfinder

This one-liner produces a picture that I call "Fishfinder."
See if you can see any echoes of fish beneath the waves.

FORX%=0TO239:FORY%=0TO63:
PSET(X%,Y%,128+128*SIN(X%/240)*COS(Y%/64)):
NEXTY%:NEXTX%:X%=FRE(INPUT$(1))

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Ron Wiesen | 1 Dec 04:34

Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

> You two are definitely the masters of arcane and unintuitive code.

Arcane and unintuitive?  But this is our ordinary fare Mike.

Trust me dude, you don't ever want to see the code that Comet or I consider to
be arcane and unintuitive. ;>

Keeper of the Primordial Bit (born of the Big Bit Bang),  -= Ron Wiesen =-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M H Stein" <dm561@...>
To: <m100@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: RE: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

> I was wondering just how you'd slip that INPUT$ in there, and without
> using a string variable at that; very nice!
>
> You two are definitely the masters of arcane and unintuitive code.
>
> mike
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Lee Kelley | 1 Dec 04:46
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Re: gps 100

I think we may be missing the point here guys.
The map of the world or even the US should just be a starting place.
With tiger file type info available, making a low rez map for local use or a
simple route map should be very doable.  Or even just a  collection of "way
points" that could be useful on an other platform just for data collection
with a rough reference for where you are.  Each person would have to adapt
it to their own needs but it still sounds like fun.

Back in the day there was a program in the Portable 100 mag that
used approx. average speed and plotted a strait line on the M100 screen
with reference points to give you an idea of where you were and along the
route with an ETA.

It was a lot less "neat" once put into use but still served a purpose.

Lee

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM, M H Stein <dm561@...> wrote:

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>
> ----------
> From:   Wes Medlin[SMTP:wesmedlin@... <SMTP%3Awesmedlin@...>]
> Sent:   Monday, November 30, 2009 5:18 PM
> To:     m100@...
> Subject:        Re: gps 100
>
> Or, take a simpler approach. There was a GPS apps for the old Palms
> that drew a big X on the screen and said "You are here."
>
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ray gordon | 1 Dec 04:56
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RE: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit


I'm curious...much has been said of this mysterious individual;...
but we know so little about him...
WHO is this mysterious "Bubbah"??

> From: ronw@...
> To: m100@...
> Subject: Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit
> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 03:30:13 +0000
> 
> Hello Comet:
> 
> I do like your reuse of variable I%, and the shorter construct for "press any
> key".  But I don't like seeing the blinking cursor (at the top-left corner)
> obscuring the moraine pattern.  What to do?  What to do?
> 
> Bubba say: "Git da Primordial Bit to leave her figgirprits on 'da udder side,
> Ron".  Hmmmm, thanks Bubba.  The statement below ought to get the job done,
> and it's even shorter than Comet's.
> 
> CLS:FORI%=0TO239:LINE(239,0)-(I%,2^PEEK(
> 1693)-1),I%:NEXT:I%=FRE(INPUT$(1))
> 
> Bubba say: "Dat's mo betta, an' it don't evin mess up 'da picher aster ya
> pressis a key and gits da' Ok.  Hows ya makin out wid my idea fer da
> programin' contest Ron?"
> 
> The program development is moving forward again Bubba.  I found and eliminated
> that knarly bug that was messing up the results -- I made a typo error in one
> of the statements.  So now I've moved on to the "paper design" of the screen
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Ron Wiesen | 1 Dec 05:56

Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

Hello Ray:

URL [ http://www.club100.org/faces.html ] has mug shots of sundry Model T
folks -- the last of these [ http://www.club100.org/faces/bubba.jpg ], but not
the least, is a picture of Bubba, my rather large friend.

Despite his rustic appearance, Bubba is not the stereotyped country rube you
might believe him to be.  Bubba has no driver's license; his only vehicle is
his airboat, which is well suited to travel here in the swamplands of Florida.

He is a sweet boy, who is very mild mannered toward all folks (except the
local game warden).  Bubba dearly loves all of his pet gators and did not even
become angry when one of the gators accidentally bit off the fingertips of his
left hand (note in the picture how Bubba keeps this concealed from view).

However, Bubba's has two cousins who are not so even-tempered!

Perhaps you've heard Jerry Hubbard (a.k.a. Jerry Reed) speak of Bubba's Cajun
cousin, Amos Moses, [
http://www.twin-music.com/azlyrics/r_file/songs/jerry_amos.html ] who is named
after a man of the cloth and lives about 45 minutes South-East of Thibodeaux,
Louisiana.  Amos Moses, who hunts alligators in the swamp for a living, also
was bitten by an alligator -- left arm gone clean up to the elbow.

Bubba's other cousin is named Festus Dalton.  Festus is a mental-irregular.
It's quite dangerous to be near Festus at certain times because the demeanor
of Festus undergoes Jekyll/Hyde changes whenever bell ringing is heard!
Whenever the demeanor of Festus is placid, his family resemblence [
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/bio/5588954 ] to Bubba is
most obvious.
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M H Stein | 1 Dec 06:17

RE: gps 100

Well, like I said, collecting way points and even calculating average speed
between points is really trivial; it's combining that data with a real map of
the local area that makes it interesting and perhaps even useful.

mike
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From: 	Lee Kelley[SMTP:kc5oid@...]
Sent: 	Monday, November 30, 2009 10:46 PM
To: 	m100@...
Subject: 	Re: gps 100

I think we may be missing the point here guys.
The map of the world or even the US should just be a starting place.
With tiger file type info available, making a low rez map for local use or a
simple route map should be very doable.  Or even just a  collection of "way
points" that could be useful on an other platform just for data collection
with a rough reference for where you are.  Each person would have to adapt
it to their own needs but it still sounds like fun.

Back in the day there was a program in the Portable 100 mag that
used approx. average speed and plotted a strait line on the M100 screen
with reference points to give you an idea of where you were and along the
route with an ETA.

It was a lot less "neat" once put into use but still served a purpose.

Lee
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Ron Wiesen | 1 Dec 06:54

Re: Only slightly OT: NaNoWriMo concludes

Hello Mike:

> Do the 100 and 200 really require different cables, and if so, why?

The Model 200 has a requirement that the Model 10x does not have -- the CTS
control line of the RS-232C port must be asserted on the Model 200.

If the null-modem cable is wired so that the (asserted) RTS control line loops
back to the CTS control line, then the null-modem cable will meet the
requirements of the Model 200.  And a Model 10x, with its lesser requirements,
will be served equally well.  See snippet from "Null-modem Cable" section of
TEENYDOC.TXT shown below.

===== Snippet from "Null-modem Cable" section of TEENYDOC.TXT =====

        Null-modem Cable

The laptop has a DB25 female connector, so it mates to a male connector
of the cable.  Typically the PC has a male connector, so it mates to a
female connector of the cable.  The connector at the PC is either a
type DB9, or a DB25 -- pin numbers for both types are shown in the
following diagrams.

A simple 3-wire type of null-modem cable is sufficient for use of
TEENY.EXE with Tandy laptop Models 100 and 102 -- no control lines
matter (none end to end, and none looped back at any end).  This is
shown below.

                                pin 07 DB25F
DB25M pin 07 ----- common ----- pin 05 DB9F    own & other reference
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Ron Wiesen | 1 Dec 07:07

Re: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

Hello Mike:

> As usual, I have to ask (and yes, it's related to INKEY$ ;-):
> any advantage in this case to using IF LEN(INKEY$)=0 vs the usual, shorter,
> IF INKEY$="" ?

Nope.  I didn't think about the IFINKEY$=""THEN construct or I would have used
it.  But Comet has a construct that is nearly as short as yours.
Nevertheless, yours is the shortest Mike.  See all in contrast below.

IFLEN(INKEY$)=0THEN  Ron's construct (the loser by 4 keystrokes)
    versus
I%=FRE(INPUT$(1))    Comet's construct (2nd place finish, by just a hair)
    versus
IFINKEY$=""THEN      Mike's construct (the winner by 1 keystroke)

Keeper of the Primordial Bit (born of the Big Bit Bang),  -= Ron Wiesen =-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M H Stein" <dm561@...>
To: <m100@...>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: See the Moraine Fingerprints of the Primordial Bit

> Very nice, Ron!
>
> As usual, I have to ask (and yes, it's related to INKEY$ ;-):
> any advantage in this case to using IF LEN(INKEY$)=0 vs the usual, shorter,
> IF INKEY$="" ?
>
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