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Rick Hanson | 1 Nov 01:28

Re: Model T will not turn on.

At 10:09 AM 10/31/2009, Joseph Oprysko wrote:
>There is an option rom "write" or something similar but I don't 
>think it is working.

The option ROM call for a Model 100/102 is 'CALL 63012'  ... if its a 
Traveling Software ROM, the call is 'CALL 63013,1' ... this is 
because they did things a bit differently.  All the option ROM calls 
are documented here ... http://www.club100.org/library/sup/04.txt

>How much is a rex?

$60 ... all the info is at www.club100.org.  REX is in stock once 
again.  Several shipped a few days ago but a few remain from this 
batch.  -Rick-
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Comet | 1 Nov 02:50
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Re: Loading /saving programs on cassette

On Oct 31, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Joseph Oprysko <joprysko1@...> wrote:

It was CSAVE and CLOAD.. I didn't exactly REMEMBER how to do it, it just
kind of came out of my fingers when I wanted to load stuff from the tape.

It seems to be working, as long as the volume is between 7-10.

Volume Level 8 is canonical.

Make sure to record your two copes of your program past any tape leader.  You can rewind your tape and CLOAD
"filename". Then you can verify your load by CLOAD? "filename".
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Joseph Oprysko | 1 Nov 06:08
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Re: Model T will not turn on.

Ahh, okay, it was the call 63012.. also, once it has been run that way, it
puts itself on the main menu when I start up.. also, now that I realize that
is the call to do it.. it is actually WRITTEN on the label on the chip.  The
program is WriteROM by PCSG copyright 1985.

I do have no idea what advantage this Wordprocessor program has over Text,
as the F-key labels are the exact same as TEXT..

Hmm.. I might get myself a Rex, it sounds like a cool option if I can figure
out how I would  use  it.

Joe

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Rick Hanson <rick@...> wrote:

> At 10:09 AM 10/31/2009, Joseph Oprysko wrote:
>
>> There is an option rom "write" or something similar but I don't think it
>> is working.
>>
>
> The option ROM call for a Model 100/102 is 'CALL 63012'  ... if its a
> Traveling Software ROM, the call is 'CALL 63013,1' ... this is because they
> did things a bit differently.  All the option ROM calls are documented here
> ... http://www.club100.org/library/sup/04.txt
>
>
> How much is a rex?
>>
>
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ray gordon | 1 Nov 07:41
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RE: Model T will not turn on.


Buy the NADSBOX first, then get REX!

> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:08:24 -0400
> Subject: Re: Model T will not turn on.
> From: joprysko1@...
> To: m100@...
> 
> Ahh, okay, it was the call 63012.. also, once it has been run that way, it
> puts itself on the main menu when I start up.. also, now that I realize that
> is the call to do it.. it is actually WRITTEN on the label on the chip.  The
> program is WriteROM by PCSG copyright 1985.
> 
> I do have no idea what advantage this Wordprocessor program has over Text,
> as the F-key labels are the exact same as TEXT..
> 
> Hmm.. I might get myself a Rex, it sounds like a cool option if I can figure
> out how I would  use  it.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Rick Hanson <rick@...> wrote:
> 
> > At 10:09 AM 10/31/2009, Joseph Oprysko wrote:
> >
> >> There is an option rom "write" or something similar but I don't think it
> >> is working.
> >>
> >
> > The option ROM call for a Model 100/102 is 'CALL 63012'  ... if its a
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Joseph Oprysko | 1 Nov 08:10
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Re: Model T will not turn on.

I had been considering getting a NADSBOX, but I would A> get killed by my
wife, and B> I have a hard time justifying  spending $200 on a device that
is  only compatable with a single vintage machine.  If it was more similar
to the SVD (Semi-Virtual Disk) unit, that works with the TRS-80 Model 1, 3,
4, 4P, and Coco, Heathkit H8/H89, TI99/4a, and Apple II, then I could
probably convince my wife, and feel better about spending that kind of money
myself.  I have too many vintage machines to make that kind of investment on
a device that I would only be getting very limited use from.  The REX even
is rather pricy I think, but I think if I understand the way it works right,
it can store a ROM program as well as the equivilent of the 32K of RAM per
bank (with the 16 banks available in the unit).  But again, I am not even
sure if that is something I would spend the money on at this time.  I
currently have my model 100, the casette drive, acoustic coupler, printer
cable, and  that's about it.

Oh, I do have another question though.  Is there a way to transfer programs
from a PC to the Model T via the sound card in a PC?  Since I don't have the
serial/null modem cable for my model t, I would want to maybe transfer some
of the programs via the audio port, then try to have the 100 be able to
CLOAD and think it is pulling the program from a cassette player.

Thanks,

Joe

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ray gordon <rayg06@...> wrote:

>
> Buy the NADSBOX first, then get REX!
>
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Marcus von Cube | 1 Nov 11:28
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Re: Model T will not turn on.

> Oh, I do have another question though.  Is there a way to transfer programs
> from a PC to the Model T via the sound card in a PC?  Since I don't have the
> serial/null modem cable for my model t, I would want to maybe transfer some
> of the programs via the audio port, then try to have the 100 be able to
> CLOAD and think it is pulling the program from a cassette player.

That is perfectly possible. I've written a bunch of routines for Casio pocket
computers and their tape interfaces: http://www.mvcsys.de/doc/casioutil.html .
This may serve as a reference, what can be done this way.

On the T. I still would opt for the serial cable as it is so much easier and
faster. Install Laddiecon or dlplus on the PC and TS-DOS or TEENY on your T
and you will never go back to CSAVE/CLOAD again.

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Joseph Oprysko | 1 Nov 13:53
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Re: Model T will not turn on.

I guess this would be a redundant question, but does anyone know what the
wiring diagram is for the serial cable/null modem cable for the Model T?  (I
have a strange suspicion that the answer is going to be... "Look on Club
100's site")  LOL

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Marcus von Cube <marcus@...> wrote:

> > Oh, I do have another question though.  Is there a way to transfer
> programs
> > from a PC to the Model T via the sound card in a PC?  Since I don't have
> the
> > serial/null modem cable for my model t, I would want to maybe transfer
> some
> > of the programs via the audio port, then try to have the 100 be able to
> > CLOAD and think it is pulling the program from a cassette player.
>
> That is perfectly possible. I've written a bunch of routines for Casio
> pocket
> computers and their tape interfaces:
> http://www.mvcsys.de/doc/casioutil.html .
> This may serve as a reference, what can be done this way.
>
> On the T. I still would opt for the serial cable as it is so much easier
> and
> faster. Install Laddiecon or dlplus on the PC and TS-DOS or TEENY on your T
> and you will never go back to CSAVE/CLOAD again.
>
> --
> Marcus
>
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Marcus von Cube | 1 Nov 16:04
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Re: Model T will not turn on.

Joseph,

that has been discussed here.

My favorite DTE/DTE cabling with 25/9 pin connectors looks like this:

2  TxD  ---->----  RxD  2
3  RxD  ----<----  TxD  3
4  RTS  ---->----  CTS  8
5  CTS  ----<----  RTS  7
6  DSR  -+--<----  DTR  4
8  DCD  -+
20 DTR  ---->--+-  DSR  6
               +-  DCD  1
7  GND  ----=----  GND  5

You need a 25 Pin male plug which is not to thick, because the case of the
Model T gets in the way otherwise. On the PC side, you need a 9 pin female plug.

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Rick Hanson | 1 Nov 17:28

Re: Model T will not turn on.

At 10:08 PM 10/31/2009, Joseph Oprysko wrote:
>[snip] The program is WriteROM by PCSG copyright 1985.  I do have no 
>idea what advantage this Wordprocessor program has over Text, as the 
>F-key labels are the exact same as TEXT. [snip]

The WriteROM by PCSG was favored for its ability to produce finished 
documents to paper.  The documentation is in the Library / 
Documentation category at www.Club100.org.  The direct link is 
http://www.club100.org/library/libdoc.html.  These documents were 
scanned in and offered up by fellow club members for the benefit of 
all concerned.

Your question is a good one about the advantage of a word processing 
program over text.  There are actually two main programs to all word 
processing packages, i.e.,  text editing and text formatting.  The 
editing program allows you to enter and modify text.  The formatting 
program shapes the text for output, usually a printer.  The 
formatting programming usually gives you a preview of the finished 
document, as well.  The formatting program uses both a control file 
and embedded characters as directions to the appearance of the 
finished document, i.e., header, footer, auto page numbering, bold, 
underline, italic, strike-through, sub and super script, font choice, etc.

I hope this explanation helps clarify the understanding of the 
concept and practice of a word processing program over just text.  -Rick-
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John R. Hogerhuis | 1 Nov 17:41
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Re: Model T will not turn on.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Joseph Oprysko <joprysko1@...> wrote:
> I had been considering getting a NADSBOX, but I would A> get killed by my
> wife, and B> I have a hard time justifying  spending $200 on a device that
> is  only compatable with a single vintage machine.  If it was more similar
> to the SVD (Semi-Virtual Disk) unit, that works with the TRS-80 Model 1, 3,
> 4, 4P, and Coco, Heathkit H8/H89, TI99/4a, and Apple II, then I could
> probably convince my wife, and feel better about spending that kind of money
> myself.  I have too many vintage machines to make that kind of investment on
> a device that I would only be getting very limited use from.  The REX even
> is rather pricy I think, but I think if I understand the way it works right,
> it can store a ROM program as well as the equivilent of the 32K of RAM per
> bank (with the 16 banks available in the unit).

Multiple ROM images, multiple RAM images. REX is actually quite a
bargain, compared to acquiring multiple Option ROM chips, or finding a
Booster Pak or other memory enhancement system.

Remember these are not "mass market" items. They are new technology
for old systems and certainly the developers do not really recoup the
engineering cost on these devices.

But yeah, not everyone can afford them.

Which is why I think everybody should at least make sure to have a
working serial port and serial cable on their PC. Then you have a
solid transfer system that others can help you with.

-- John.
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