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Gary Lee Phillips | 1 Aug 01:11
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Re: Tandy 102 Web Server

I did try, but no one listened other than you, Jake.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:16 PM, J Bickhard<jbickhard@...> wrote:
> Well, I guess this e-mail explains it all XD.
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> Jake, Editor of Micro 100 Magazine
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adam Byers <adam@...>
> Date: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:13 PM
> Subject: Tandy 102 Web Server
> To: jbickhard@...
>
>
> Found the thread you started -
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.trs80.model100/362120
> when I was looking at the stats for my site (awaitinginspiration.com).
> As I'm sure you've guessed by now, the post is fake; posted on April
> 1st of 2008. Fun though to see people speculate.
>
> http://awaitinginspiration.com/2008/04/tandy-102-webserver
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> Adam Byers
> adam@...
> blog | twitter
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Ron Hudson | 1 Aug 02:43
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Re: How about this for Model 401

*Look what I just found....
http://www.sunspot.co.uk/Projects/sweexproject.htm

Really Small....

There's a new kid on the block!*
The Bifferboard
only 1 Watt power consumption and really tiny
Intel 486SX compatible and it will
run Linux 2.6.27.5 on a USB memory stick.
It now allows the connection of a webcam, audio,
GPIO and i2c for external device control
home site here 
<http://www.sunspot.co.uk/Projects/SWEEX/BifferBoardLink.html> - - - 
chat here <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bifferboard/>
my own project notes are here 
<http://www.sunspot.co.uk/Projects/Bifferboard/biff_index.html>
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Frederick Whitaker | 1 Aug 03:18
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Sardine!

I didn't get much response from my earlier emails about Sardine. I have 
been playing with it and it has a built in TS-DOS loader, it is under F7 
inside the T-Word program.

I remember a comment recently about the disk file version of TS-DOS 
being a little flaky. I have not had any trouble with it and would like 
some clarification. I have not noted any significant difference between 
the ROM version and the disk file version of TS-DOS. I am sure there are 
differences but I haven't seen them. I know that each version, after the 
cassette version, has been a little different, but how do we know that 
the ROM version is actually different from the disk file version?

Fred Whitaker
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Frederick Whitaker | 1 Aug 03:28
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Re: How about this for Model 401

This "Bifferboard" actually looks a lot more interesting than the other 
computer board we were hearing about, 29 pounds instead of $150 each in 
lots of 100, smaller and much more interesting looking. Don't forget 
that there are very small "micro-itx" boards that could be used as 
easily and would require much less modification. Look at 
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards/EPIA_5000 and check out 
their products.

Fred Whitaker

Ron Hudson wrote:
> *Look what I just found....
> http://www.sunspot.co.uk/Projects/sweexproject.htm
>
> Really Small....
>
> There's a new kid on the block!*
> The Bifferboard
> only 1 Watt power consumption and really tiny
> Intel 486SX compatible and it will
> run Linux 2.6.27.5 on a USB memory stick.
> It now allows the connection of a webcam, audio,
> GPIO and i2c for external device control
> home site here 
> <http://www.sunspot.co.uk/Projects/SWEEX/BifferBoardLink.html> - - - 
> chat here <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bifferboard/>
> my own project notes are here 
> <http://www.sunspot.co.uk/Projects/Bifferboard/biff_index.html>
>
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Rick Hanson | 1 Aug 03:50

Re: Sardine!

...and unfortunately I never played with it enough in all its various 
forms to have answers to your questions.  However, I have the 
dictionary disk that was sent with all versions.  The RAM version 
used the disk, exclusively, while the ROM version had a "most used 
words" dictionary on the ROM and you could use the disk if you wished.

The down sides to the system were...
- you had to have a tpdd or tpdd2
- the dictionary could only be copied via one specific version of 
TS-RANDOM (I have that version)

The dictionary file "is" the entire disk and as such getting it off 
and onto something like a NADSBox card takes someone more clever then 
I, sir.  If anyone would like to take on the task of getting the 
dictionary off the disk and into a file that can be placed on a card, 
let me know.  I will send them the disk.  -Rick-

PS: Yet one more thing for our archives, i.e., the wealth of nations.

At 06:18 PM 7/31/2009, Frederick Whitaker wrote:
>I didn't get much response from my earlier emails about Sardine. I 
>have been playing with it and it has a built in TS-DOS loader, it is 
>under F7 inside the T-Word program.
>
>I remember a comment recently about the disk file version of TS-DOS 
>being a little flaky. I have not had any trouble with it and would 
>like some clarification. I have not noted any significant difference 
>between the ROM version and the disk file version of TS-DOS. I am 
>sure there are differences but I haven't seen them. I know that each 
>version, after the cassette version, has been a little different,
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Jonathan Rose | 1 Aug 04:11
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Re: How about this for Model 401

Yeah, I've almost bought one of their damn small machines on several occasions.
 
Both ideas would work, but if it were me, I'd spend the extra $60 and get the micro-itx board. It's got a built
in video out (like a modern dvi), and it's much faster than a 486, which would allow it to run a more
network-friendly linux distro. A 486 would be pretty limited, unless you had a really stripped down
version of linux. Even then, I'd prefer something faster. Then again, if you wrote decent software for it,
it might not matter. 
 
I also agree that the thing doesn't have to be a great web browser, but I would want 'net connectivity,
especially for email, RSS, file transfer, blogging etc. 
 
I would like a more robust word processing solution though. These devices are mainly going to be used for
writing, so it makes sense to have something that can handle fonts, basic formatting, spell check, and
whatnot. Having utilities to convert documents from word, openoffice etc to the machines native
format would be a good idea to. There are plenty of linux based wp programs that can do this, so it wouldn't
be a huge issue. 
 
BASIC is ideal for a machine like this. You could do a simple frontend/IDE for a freely available linux
basic, such as FreeBasic (a vastly improved object oriented quickbasic clone). 
 
Multiple sd/cf card slots would be a must as well. So would usb. I'd skil the RS-232. They don't even come on
modern computers anymore. All of that could be done via USB anyway. Ditto for the modem. Bluetooth is the
way to go.
 

--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Frederick Whitaker <rrtfw6923@...> wrote:

From: Frederick Whitaker <rrtfw6923@...>
Subject: Re: How about this for Model 401
To: m100@...
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Roger Merchberger | 1 Aug 04:29

Re: How about this for Model 401

Rumor has it that Frederick Whitaker may have mentioned these words:
>This "Bifferboard" actually looks a lot more interesting than the other 
>computer board we were hearing about, 29 pounds instead of $150 each in 
>lots of 100, smaller and much more interesting looking. Don't forget that 
>there are very small "micro-itx" boards that could be used as easily and 
>would require much less modification. Look at 
>http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards/EPIA_5000 and check out 
>their products.

To pick a nit:

There's no such thing as "Micro-ITX" - here's a standards breakdown, from 
Largest to Smallest

Extended ATX (13"x12") - I still have a Tyan 2462 with onboard dual SCSI 
interfaces. I've "relegated" it to a fileserver / linux compiler box - 
4.3GHz is still quite fast & 4G RAM is nice for a system that's upwards of 
8 years old - but the 2xAGP sucks for playing WoW. ;-)

ATX (9.6"x12") - "the normal"

MicroATX (9.6"x9.6") - What you'd find in most "mini-tower" systems

FlexATX: (9"x7.5") - I've never seen one of these in captivity... Not much 
of a standard.

Mini-ITX (7.6"x7.6") - I have one of these as my DJ system; very small, 
very compact, and if they employ anything faster than an Atom or Via 
processor, very expensive... but...
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Chris Fezzler | 1 Aug 04:54
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Re: Sardine!

Fred -
 
I did notice.  Just waiting for the *.BX file to be upload to try it.  Does Sardine work with TWord and LucidWrite?

--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Frederick Whitaker <rrtfw6923@...> wrote:

From: Frederick Whitaker <rrtfw6923@...>
Subject: Sardine!
To: "Club100" <m100@...>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:18 PM

I didn't get much response from my earlier emails about Sardine. I have been playing with it and it has a built
in TS-DOS loader, it is under F7 inside the T-Word program.

I remember a comment recently about the disk file version of TS-DOS being a little flaky. I have not had any
trouble with it and would like some clarification. I have not noted any significant difference between
the ROM version and the disk file version of TS-DOS. I am sure there are differences but I haven't seen them.
I know that each version, after the cassette version, has been a little different, but how do we know that
the ROM version is actually different from the disk file version?

Fred Whitaker
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Frederick Whitaker | 1 Aug 05:13
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Re: Sardine!

I don't think you can load both ROMS at the same time but I believe that 
if Lucid Write produces ".do" files then Sardine can work with them. You 
would have to create your document under Lucid Write, and then load the 
Sardine ROM to work with the file in T-Word which is part of the Sardine 
ROM. Personally I would just create my document in T-Word, using the 
Sardine Rom, and when I was ready to use the spell checker I would press 
"Graph-F" to start Sardine. Once Sardine was started I could select 
"ROM" as the source of the dictionary to do the spell check. During the 
spell check you have to review the words not found in the dictionary, if 
you accept the spelling of a word it is added to a word file on your 
computer that is then used as part of the dictionary.

Fred Whitaker

Chris Fezzler wrote:
> Fred -
>  
> I did notice.  Just waiting for the *.BX file to be upload to try it.  Does Sardine work with TWord and LucidWrite?
>
> --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Frederick Whitaker <rrtfw6923@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Frederick Whitaker <rrtfw6923@...>
> Subject: Sardine!
> To: "Club100" <m100@...>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:18 PM
>
>
> I didn't get much response from my earlier emails about Sardine. I have been playing with it and it has a
built in TS-DOS loader, it is under F7 inside the T-Word program.
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Frederick Whitaker | 1 Aug 05:19
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Re: Sardine!

My question about the "ROM" version being different from the disk file 
version was about "TS-DOS", not "Sardine". Someone had commented that 
they thought the disk file or "memory" version was a little flaky, or 
something like that, and I was asking for a clarification.

Rick Hanson wrote:
> ...and unfortunately I never played with it enough in all its various 
> forms to have answers to your questions.  However, I have the 
> dictionary disk that was sent with all versions.  The RAM version used 
> the disk, exclusively, while the ROM version had a "most used words" 
> dictionary on the ROM and you could use the disk if you wished.
>
> The down sides to the system were...
> - you had to have a tpdd or tpdd2
> - the dictionary could only be copied via one specific version of 
> TS-RANDOM (I have that version)
>
> The dictionary file "is" the entire disk and as such getting it off 
> and onto something like a NADSBox card takes someone more clever then 
> I, sir.  If anyone would like to take on the task of getting the 
> dictionary off the disk and into a file that can be placed on a card, 
> let me know.  I will send them the disk.  -Rick-
>
> PS: Yet one more thing for our archives, i.e., the wealth of nations.
>
>
> At 06:18 PM 7/31/2009, Frederick Whitaker wrote:
>> I didn't get much response from my earlier emails about Sardine. I 
>> have been playing with it and it has a built in TS-DOS loader, it is 
>> under F7 inside the T-Word program.
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