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Chris Fezzler | 1 Jul 05:29
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Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate


Mine seems too work best when both the M100 and TPDD is plugged into a power adapter and the TPDD has batteries
in it too.  

Chris

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Technoslick <technoslick@...> wrote:

> From: Technoslick <technoslick@...>
> Subject: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate
> To: m100@...
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 4:29 PM
> I have been trying to put my Model
> 100 and TPDD1 back into use, but I
> can't get the drive to initialize from IPA.BA. The code has
> been
> entered correctly. The serial cable appears to be in
> working order. It
> doesn't matter if I set the dip switches on the TPDD to
> "ON" or "OFF",
> the Battery Indicator flashes and the motor runs until I
> turn the
> drive off. The LCD screen, meanwhile, stays blank until I
> press
> CTRL-Break. At this point, I get an I/O Error on the
> screen.
> 
> Is this drive shot or is there a trick I need to know to
> get this
> drive initiated and working again?
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Technoslick | 1 Jul 13:06
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Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Chris Fezzler<fezzler@...> wrote:
> Mine seems too work best when both the M100 and TPDD is plugged into a power adapter
> and the TPDD has batteries in it too.

I tried this before --  both units stoked with fresh batteries and
running on AC adapters -- and it didn't make any difference.

To Peter and Gary, who responded to my post yesterday: I never got the
listserv emails for your replies, though I did see your posts while
checking the gmane archives via RSS feed.

Peter: The manual that comes with the TPDD states one should flip the
switches to "ON" only when running IPL.BA to initiate the drive and
create FLOPPY.CO. I have read reports that some units have the
switches mounted in reverse, but this one had worked correctly in the
past. I have had this drive for about ten years. I misspelled "IPL.BA"
in the body of my post, but not in the program's creation.

Gary: I will disassemble the TPDD the first chance I get today. The
diskette is engaged each time the unit is turned on, so at lease one
of the two belts is intact. I will check with Rick and see what he
wants for new belts.

Thanks to all for their replies. I'll post changes as I investigate
this problem further.
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VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN | 1 Jul 15:29
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Comparing the characters sets (was: 6 bytes under the cursor)


My program DIGICS.BA - available as DIGICS.DO in my Personal Library -
extracts the character set from a Model 100/102 and converts it to a .DO
file. DIGICS.TXT is the result on my Model 102. Best read in Notepad,
with the font TERMINAL in Windows.

Could someone with the old character set in the Model 100 do the same
thing, and mail me the .DO- or .TXT-file ? Attention: you need about 20K
free RAM to run this program.

Jan-80 @ work      """""
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-----Original Message-----
From: m100@...
[mailto:m100@...] On Behalf Of
VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN
Sent: donderdag 25 juni 2009 15:12
To: m100@...
Subject: 6 bytes under the cursor

I have a program that outputs the character set as a letter-per-pixel,
for comparison and transfer. A routine in it reads the 6 bytes under the
blinkung cursor. But how does that work?

What does CALL17786 do? And why execute it twice? Is I-20 the location
of the cursor buffer?

80 REM read 6 bytes from screen buffer
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John R. Hogerhuis | 1 Jul 17:32
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Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Technoslick<technoslick@...> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Chris Fezzler<fezzler@...> wrote:
>> Mine seems too work best when both the M100 and TPDD is plugged into a power adapter
>> and the TPDD has batteries in it too.
>
> I tried this before --  both units stoked with fresh batteries and
> running on AC adapters -- and it didn't make any difference.
>
> To Peter and Gary, who responded to my post yesterday: I never got the
> listserv emails for your replies, though I did see your posts while
> checking the gmane archives via RSS feed.
>
> Peter: The manual that comes with the TPDD states one should flip the
> switches to "ON" only when running IPL.BA to initiate the drive and
> create FLOPPY.CO. I have read reports that some units have the
> switches mounted in reverse, but this one had worked correctly in the
> past. I have had this drive for about ten years. I misspelled "IPL.BA"
> in the body of my post, but not in the program's creation.
>
> Gary: I will disassemble the TPDD the first chance I get today. The
> diskette is engaged each time the unit is turned on, so at lease one
> of the two belts is intact. I will check with Rick and see what he
> wants for new belts.
>

There is a "spectrum" of how good a TPDD belt is. If it has never been
replaced, it should be now :-)

Since you're searching Gmane, there have been a couple of threads
about what the proper belt size is, and sources.
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Technoslick | 1 Jul 18:30
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Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, John R. Hogerhuis<jhoger@...> wrote:
> There is a "spectrum" of how good a TPDD belt is. If it has never been
> replaced, it should be now :-)
>
> Since you're searching Gmane, there have been a couple of threads
> about what the proper belt size is, and sources.

Thanks, John. I will have to follow your lead, as it turns out the
problem was in fact the belt. It was so loose around the pulleys that
I could pull it around its path without moving either pulley. To see
if the drive motor was working, I replaced the old belt with a rubber
band that was the same width, though about three times thicker. It
stretched around the pulleys, but not so much that it changed width or
color. After I put it all together I tried running IPL.BA. Worked as
it should. Of course, I have no illusions about the rubber band being
an adequate replacement. :)

Thanks for everyone's input.

Paul
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Chris Fezzler | 1 Jul 18:54
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Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate


Let us know if it was the belts.  As much as Rick despises the TPDD(2) for practical daily use (and he is right,
as a NADSBox owner and Desklink/Teeny fan I know they are better solutions to file storage), for those of
use who want a working TPDD(2) for nostalgia - I'd enjoy a few snap shots of the bad belt assessment and
replacement process.

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Technoslick <technoslick@...> wrote:

> From: Technoslick <technoslick@...>
> Subject: Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate
> To: m100@...
> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 7:06 AM
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM,
> Chris Fezzler<fezzler@...>
> wrote:
> > Mine seems too work best when both the M100 and TPDD
> is plugged into a power adapter
> > and the TPDD has batteries in it too.
> 
> I tried this before --  both units stoked with fresh
> batteries and
> running on AC adapters -- and it didn't make any
> difference.
> 
> To Peter and Gary, who responded to my post yesterday: I
> never got the
> listserv emails for your replies, though I did see your
> posts while
> checking the gmane archives via RSS feed.
>
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Ron Wiesen | 1 Jul 20:25

NATIVE Manual is Available as .PDF at Web8201 Website -- Was: Re: Comparing the characters sets (was: 6 bytes under the cursor)

Hello Jan:

The entire symbol set of the Model 100 and the entire symbol set of the Model
102/200 are illustrated in the NATIVE manual.  Gary Weber made a .PDF of the
NATIVE manual by carefully scanning each of its pages.  Hosted at the Web8201
website, you may view the entire NATIVE manual via the following URL, thanks
to the kindness of Gary Weber.

[ http://web8201.com:8080/files/public/Club100/doc/Native.pdf ]

Page 18 of the NATIVE manual (page 20 of 27 in the .PDF) illustrates the Model
100 symbol set.  Page 19 of the NATIVE manual (page 21 of 27 in the .PDF)
illustrates the Model 102/200 symbol set.

Keeper of the Primordial Bit (mother of all bits),  -= Ron Wiesen =-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN" <JAN.VANDEN.BOSSCHE@...>
To: <m100@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Comparing the characters sets (was: 6 bytes under the cursor)

My program DIGICS.BA - available as DIGICS.DO in my Personal Library -
extracts the character set from a Model 100/102 and converts it to a .DO
file. DIGICS.TXT is the result on my Model 102. Best read in Notepad,
with the font TERMINAL in Windows.

Could someone with the old character set in the Model 100 do the same
thing, and mail me the .DO- or .TXT-file ? Attention: you need about 20K
free RAM to run this program.
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Jan Vanden Bossche | 1 Jul 22:05
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RE: Programming Contest 2009: da rules


What's "runoff voting"?

Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus
Jan-80 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: R. Hogerhuis
> 
> And we have some runoff voting.
> 
> -- John.
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Technoslick | 1 Jul 21:08
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Re: TPDD1: IPL.BA won't initiate

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Chris Fezzler<fezzler@...> wrote:
> Let us know if it was the belts.

It was the belt, as noted in my previous reply to John. Unless the
belts cost nearly as much as another used TPDD, I will surely pick up
one or two

> As much as Rick despises the TPDD(2) for practical daily use (and he is right, as a
> NADSBox owner and Desklink/Teeny fan I know they are better solutions to file storage),

I agree with you, to a point. The NADSBox is *very* expensive for
occasional, recreational use, but makes for a worthwhile investment in
a special-needs environment. I own and operate a multitude of devices
running under Palm, WinCE, Windows and Linux. Using Desklink/Teeny,
VirtualT or even my PCSG Disk+ with my old IBM XT would be better over
the long term. My need for the TPDD to work is get programs and data
off some 120K disks so I don't have to rely upon the medium or drive
later on.

> those of use who want a working TPDD(2) for nostalgia - I'd enjoy a few snap shots of the
> bad belt assessment and replacement process.

No trouble to take a series of pictures of the disassembly,
replacement and assembly process. It wasn't difficult. Access to the
belt is had by separating the main circuit board from the drive
hardware once the outer shell has been removed. The usual care in
removing the connectors, especially the zero-insertion-force connector
for the ribbon cable. As for the bad belt, it doesn't noticeably look
bad, other than being oversized to the point of being useless.
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M H Stein | 1 Jul 22:54

RE: NATIVE Manual is Available as .PDF at Web8201 Website -- Was: Re: Comparing the characters sets (was: 6 bytes under the cursor)

Might still be useful in machine-readable form for comparison etc.

Have sent Jan my file.

m
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From: 	Ron Wiesen[SMTP:ronw@...]
Sent: 	Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:25 PM
To: 	m100@...
Cc: 	Gary Weber
Subject: 	NATIVE Manual is Available as .PDF at Web8201 Website -- Was: Re: Comparing the characters sets
(was: 6 bytes under the cursor)

Hello Jan:

The entire symbol set of the Model 100 and the entire symbol set of the Model
102/200 are illustrated in the NATIVE manual.  Gary Weber made a .PDF of the
NATIVE manual by carefully scanning each of its pages.  Hosted at the Web8201
website, you may view the entire NATIVE manual via the following URL, thanks
to the kindness of Gary Weber.

[ http://web8201.com:8080/files/public/Club100/doc/Native.pdf ]

Page 18 of the NATIVE manual (page 20 of 27 in the .PDF) illustrates the Model
100 symbol set.  Page 19 of the NATIVE manual (page 21 of 27 in the .PDF)
illustrates the Model 102/200 symbol set.

Keeper of the Primordial Bit (mother of all bits),  -= Ron Wiesen =-
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