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Steve Adolph | 1 Aug 21:40

RE: Sick Model 100 (update)


Doug-
I'd be happy to have a look at it for you.  I'm constantly fixing these out
of my pile of M100s.
Certainly sounds like you have a short somewhere, or another fault in the
power supply system.  There is a transistor that connects the memory voltage
(3.6) to the +5V supply (transistor T28).  If this transistor was somehow
fried, then it would be constantly connecting +5 to +3.6, which would
rapidly discharge the nicad when powered off, and also you'd never be able
to start the machine without corrupt memory.

Just a theory.

I'm in Kanada eh, so shipping is a bit more unfortunately.  Depends how bad
you want it fixed vs. getting another.  But, if you wanted a remem
installed, I could do that at the same time!!! ;)

cheers, Steve

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From: dougstump@... [mailto:dougstump@...]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:54 PM
To: m100@...
Subject: Sick Model 100 (update)

Well, where's where I ended up.  The memory ni-cad will charge up, but when
you disconnect the computer from the wall wort and stick a digital meter on
the battery (or the right pins on the expansion socket) you can watch the
voltage going down.  It drops from 3.6 volts to nothing in a minute or two.
Clearly, something is pulling way too much power in the memory circuit.
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Daryn Hanright | 4 Aug 11:00

Compiling VirtualT 0.7 for Linux

Had anybody had much luck compiling the sources for VirtualT 0.7 under
Linux? Am running Ubuntu Breezy, and am getting this error when running
make. Have made sure I have set FLTK right as well...

Here is the output after running make

$ make
mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
--use-images` -c src/m100emu.c -o obj/m100emu.o
src/m100emu.c: In function 'bail':
src/m100emu.c:175: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of
built-in function 'exit'
mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
--use-images` -c src/doins.c -o obj/doins.o
mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
--use-images` -c src/genwrap.c -o obj/genwrap.o
mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
--use-images` -c src/serial.c -o obj/serial.o
src/serial.c: In function 'ser_init':
src/serial.c:66: error: 'TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function)
src/serial.c:66: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once
src/serial.c:66: error: for each function it appears in.)
src/serial.c: In function 'ser_open_port':
src/serial.c:811: error: 'TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function)
src/serial.c: In function 'ser_read_byte':
src/serial.c:1226: error: 'FALSE' undeclared (first use in this
function)
src/serial.c: In function 'ser_write_byte':
src/serial.c:1287: error: 'FALSE' undeclared (first use in this
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Ray Lopez | 4 Aug 15:18
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Re: Compiling VirtualT 0.7 for Linux

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Hi Daryn:  I got the exact same errors, and had no luck in getting them 
resolved.

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210.385.9369

On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Daryn Hanright wrote:

> Had anybody had much luck compiling the sources for VirtualT 0.7 under
> Linux? Am running Ubuntu Breezy, and am getting this error when running
> make. Have made sure I have set FLTK right as well...
>
> Here is the output after running make
>
> $ make
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/m100emu.c -o obj/m100emu.o
> src/m100emu.c: In function 'bail':
> src/m100emu.c:175: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of
> built-in function 'exit'
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/doins.c -o obj/doins.o
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/genwrap.c -o obj/genwrap.o
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/serial.c -o obj/serial.o
> src/serial.c: In function 'ser_init':
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Jérôme VERNET | 4 Aug 15:26
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Re: Compiling VirtualT 0.7 for Linux

There is some problems with the Makefile. Remove any referencs to cpuregs.c.
More over, TRUE and FALSE are not declared somewhere, may be a header include missing ?

Jerome

> Message du 04/08/06 11:00
> De : "Daryn Hanright" <daz@...>
> A : "Tandy Model 100 List" <m100@...>
> Copie à : 
> Objet : Compiling VirtualT 0.7 for Linux
> 
> Had anybody had much luck compiling the sources for VirtualT 0.7 under
> Linux? Am running Ubuntu Breezy, and am getting this error when running
> make. Have made sure I have set FLTK right as well...
> 
> Here is the output after running make
> 
> $ make
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/m100emu.c -o obj/m100emu.o
> src/m100emu.c: In function 'bail':
> src/m100emu.c:175: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of
> built-in function 'exit'
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/doins.c -o obj/doins.o
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/genwrap.c -o obj/genwrap.o
> mkdir -p obj; gcc -I /usr/bin -O6 `/usr/bin/fltk-config --cflags
> --use-images` -c src/serial.c -o obj/serial.o
> src/serial.c: In function 'ser_init':
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Rick Hanson | 4 Aug 18:05

Re: Model 100 Parts

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At 08:41 AM 8/4/2006, Todd.Zirbel@... wrote:
>Hello, Thank You for the parts!
>My address is:
>1923 Illinois Ave.
>New Holstein, WI  53061
>
>I would feel better If you would allow me to pay for shipping & 
>handling and some towards the parts it'self.  If you could give me 
>the an amount I can paypal it to you or send a check. Thanks you again.

It is my pleasure to meet and serve a friend and fellow Model "T"er, 
so NO you may not pay for this, sir.  I'm not poor, but more than 
that, I have over 300 Model 100s and Model 102s in stock and boxes of 
parts that I will NEVER be able to use.  You are already doing me a 
favor by taking a few off my hands.

Sure, I sell some stuff (see Catalog at www.club100.org) but I give 
away a lot of misc stuff that fellow Model "T"ers need, like covers 
and key-tops and even key switches.  I eBay some other stuff and I 
get orders for Catalog items all the time.  But mainly, I like doing 
this.  It's a 23 year long hobby.

It was a very good business back in the late '80s / early '90s but 
it's a labor of like now.  I do other things for money.  I am 
semi-retired and have a local handyman business and I have my hobbies 
and tons of todo list items for my wife and I.  So again, you are a 
friend.  Your request for a set of Model 102 covers fits my give-away 
program ... live long and prosper, sir.
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David J Patrick | 4 Aug 18:38
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ModelT in action

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Just thought you fellers might be amused;
I'm dusting off the 102, and friends, for deployment at linuxcaffe !
I'm going to use one in the basement, as flood monitor/ last resort
emergency dial-out, one in the kitchen, as uber-tea-timer, and
considering bolting one outside (in a cusom plexiglass box) as the
worlds most complicated door-bell.

It will negate my "everything runs on linux but the bank machine"
claim, but, hey, I think it's worth it !

And just this morning, I found out that a friend of mine was an M100
early-adopter, too !

WOW !

djp

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jwhitton | 4 Aug 19:23

Re: ModelT in action: question

> I'm going to use one in the basement, as flood monitor/ last resort
> emergency dial-out

This raises the question, kind of, as to whether anyone has successfully
arranged the AC adapter circuit to keep re-chargeable AA's charged while the
M10x is on the adapter.... seems that it would be simple enough to trickle a
few mils into NiMiH's, whatever it takes to offset system consumption. Of
course, one would have to either NEVER insert 'regular' batteries
(non-rechargeable), or to add a switch for charge/no-charge.

John
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Roger Merchberger | 4 Aug 19:28

Re: ModelT in action: question

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Rumor has it that jwhitton may have mentioned these words:
> > I'm going to use one in the basement, as flood monitor/ last resort
> > emergency dial-out
>
>This raises the question, kind of, as to whether anyone has successfully
>arranged the AC adapter circuit to keep re-chargeable AA's charged while the
>M10x is on the adapter....

Dunno about the M10x, but the Tandy 200 was designed to take NiCds (and by 
extension, NiMH) - it's two solder-bridge points on the memory board, IIRC. 
It's in the Service Manual.

If one were to install a Double-Pole Single Throw (DPST) switch wired into 
those two bridge points, it would be easily switchable whether or not you 
had alkalines installed.

What I don't remember is if it would charge the batteries *while* the 
computer was on, tho.

HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger

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zmerch@...

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dougstump | 4 Aug 20:16

Re: RE: Sick Model 100 (update)

Steve,

Thanks for the offer, but as John Whitton was needing a lcd screen I mailed it off to him to use as parts.  

Doug

> 
> From: "Steve Adolph" <sadolph@...>
> Date: 2006/08/01 Tue PM 03:40:27 EDT
> To: <dougstump@...>
> CC: "m100" <m100@...>
> Subject: RE: Sick Model 100 (update)
> 
> 
> Doug-
> I'd be happy to have a look at it for you.  I'm constantly fixing these out
> of my pile of M100s.
> Certainly sounds like you have a short somewhere, or another fault in the
> power supply system.  There is a transistor that connects the memory voltage
> (3.6) to the +5V supply (transistor T28).  If this transistor was somehow
> fried, then it would be constantly connecting +5 to +3.6, which would
> rapidly discharge the nicad when powered off, and also you'd never be able
> to start the machine without corrupt memory.
> 
> Just a theory.
> 
> I'm in Kanada eh, so shipping is a bit more unfortunately.  Depends how bad
> you want it fixed vs. getting another.  But, if you wanted a remem
> installed, I could do that at the same time!!! ;)
>
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Stephen Hurd | 4 Aug 20:41
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Re: Compiling VirtualT 0.7 for Linux

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> Had anybody had much luck compiling the sources for VirtualT 0.7 under
> Linux? Am running Ubuntu Breezy, and am getting this error when running
> make. Have made sure I have set FLTK right as well...

Should be fixed in CVS now... FLTKDIR was horrible and unnecessary.  Gone 
back to just using FLTKCONFIG if necessary (ie: fltk-config isn't in your 
path).
Let me know if there's any more problems. 

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