AtariJunkie | 1 Feb 02:20 2005
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Re: Re: Re: Crystal City

I would like a copy too... I believe I don't have this in my collection.

Thanks!
Erik

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> On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 06:58 -0500, Charlie wrote:
> > NP, Manny. I know all about "other things happening" :-). I haven't been
> > active at all in any of my hobbies as life has me running around like
crazy
> > at the moment. Only CoCo time I get is the occasional game of Nick's
PAC-MAN
> > here and there just to keep my sanity. :-)
> >
> > Charlie
>
> I should be home by the end of the week, after a nice long time in the
> air... After I clean myself up, I might just get to it. ;)
>
> -M.
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David | 1 Feb 02:24 2005
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Coco as unix terminal

Hi all,

Another one of my 'bright ideas'..

is it possible to use the Coco to connect to a unix box (ie FreeBSD, linux,
etc) and use it as a remote terminal?

would this have to be done via serial connection, or is another connect
method available?

(anyone considered a way to send serial-style data over wireless? I'd love
to 'amaze my friends' with this 8-bit coco that can magically access the
internet using lynx etc from my linux box :P )

Ponderances, anyone?

David

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John R. Hogerhuis | 1 Feb 02:41 2005
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Re: Coco as unix terminal

On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 12:24 +1100, David wrote:

> is it possible to use the Coco to connect to a unix box (ie FreeBSD, linux,
> etc) and use it as a remote terminal?
> 
> would this have to be done via serial connection, or is another connect
> method available?
> 

Serial is the easiest way. No ethernet for coco yet. You can even use
the built-in bitbanger port if you don't need really high speeds. But
for best results you should use a rs232 plug-in card.

> (anyone considered a way to send serial-style data over wireless? I'd love
> to 'amaze my friends' with this 8-bit coco that can magically access the
> internet using lynx etc from my linux box :P )
> 

There are serial->wireless adapters available: bluetooth, IrDA.
Depending on how much you want to spend you will either have to write a
lot or no code on the coco side.

There was also some talk of hooking a USB controller to Coco, but I
don't think there's any activity in that direction right now. (see
microusb.org for how they did it on the Atari). There are lots of USB ->
wireless solutions, which is why I bring it up.

-- John.

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David | 1 Feb 02:42 2005
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Re: Coco as unix terminal

Is there any known maximum length for a properly-shielded standard serial
cable?

David

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Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Coco as unix terminal

> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 12:24 +1100, David wrote:
>
> > is it possible to use the Coco to connect to a unix box (ie FreeBSD,
linux,
> > etc) and use it as a remote terminal?
> >
> > would this have to be done via serial connection, or is another connect
> > method available?
> >
>
> Serial is the easiest way. No ethernet for coco yet. You can even use
> the built-in bitbanger port if you don't need really high speeds. But
> for best results you should use a rs232 plug-in card.
>
> > (anyone considered a way to send serial-style data over wireless? I'd
love
> > to 'amaze my friends' with this 8-bit coco that can magically access the
> > internet using lynx etc from my linux box :P )
> >
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Mark Marlette | 1 Feb 02:59 2005

Re: Coco as unix terminal

At 07:41 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote:

John,

Refresh my memory. Who was working on this CoCo USB??

Thanks,

Mark

>On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 12:24 +1100, David wrote:
>
> > is it possible to use the Coco to connect to a unix box (ie FreeBSD, linux,
> > etc) and use it as a remote terminal?
> >
> > would this have to be done via serial connection, or is another connect
> > method available?
> >
>
>Serial is the easiest way. No ethernet for coco yet. You can even use
>the built-in bitbanger port if you don't need really high speeds. But
>for best results you should use a rs232 plug-in card.
>
> > (anyone considered a way to send serial-style data over wireless? I'd love
> > to 'amaze my friends' with this 8-bit coco that can magically access the
> > internet using lynx etc from my linux box :P )
> >
>
>There are serial->wireless adapters available: bluetooth, IrDA.
>Depending on how much you want to spend you will either have to write a
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Alex Evans | 1 Feb 03:40 2005
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On Jan 31, 2005, at 5:42 PM, David wrote:

> Is there any known maximum length for a properly-shielded standard 
> serial
> cable?

The standard says 50'.  I am sure you can get away wit more depending 
on the data rate you are using.  I have had no problems in the past 
with using a 25 conductor ribbon cable serial cable 50' in length at 
19200.

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Ward Griffiths | 1 Feb 04:19 2005
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On Monday 31 January 2005 08:24 pm, David wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Another one of my 'bright ideas'..
>
> is it possible to use the Coco to connect to a unix box (ie FreeBSD,
> linux, etc) and use it as a remote terminal?
>
> would this have to be done via serial connection, or is another
> connect method available?
>
> (anyone considered a way to send serial-style data over wireless? I'd
> love to 'amaze my friends' with this 8-bit coco that can magically
> access the internet using lynx etc from my linux box :P )

It's expensive.  Ethernet terminal server.  Hook the Coco with a serial 
cable, terminal server connects to other machines with ethernet, can be 
twisted pair or plugged into a wireless router.

I just use regular serial connections.  I'm a cheap BOfH.
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John R. Hogerhuis | 1 Feb 06:49 2005
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Re: Coco as unix terminal

On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 19:59 -0600, Mark Marlette wrote:
> At 07:41 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Refresh my memory. Who was working on this CoCo USB??
> 

>From the hardware angle James Daggett from a firmware angle, myself.

But not much I can do till there's hardware. James has a good start
though.

So many interesting things to work on, so little time...

-- John.

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KnudsenMJ | 1 Feb 06:58 2005
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Re: OS-9 C compiler parts


In a message dated 1/31/05 3:55:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
goosey@... writes:

This recent talk about the OS-9 C compiler and it's pieces made  me
remember a question I had for the list...

What are all the newest  parts of a complete OS-9 dev. system?  I'll
list what I can think of  off the top of my head:

asm (part of NitrOS-9)
rma6309  (commercial)
rlink
cc2 (there are several of these to choose  from)
c.pass1
c.pass2
c.comp
c.opt
c.opt2 (anyone have any good  optimizer patterns for this?)
<snip>

You should also have my CNoY, which slips in between c.comp (or c.pass2)  and 
c.opt, and gets rid of Y-relative addressing modes.  Makes for more  
efficient code to be run on a Coco3, OS9L2 ONLY (not Level One, where everything  
really does have to be PC relative).

It's been speculated that C.Opt2 could be patterned to do this, as well as  
de-SEX every operation involving a char/byte variable.

CNoY is available on RTSI.  I have the source handy, in case I never  put 
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KnudsenMJ | 1 Feb 06:58 2005
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Re: CoCo & CoCo OS-9 C compilers


In a message dated 1/31/05 3:44:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
goosey@... writes:

Heh, I'm  pretty sure you're the one I got my copy from. ;-)  

So, where'd  you get it?  Did Microware officially sell it at some
point?  For  non-Tandy LII versions?

I really don't remember, but best guess is I got it from Kevin Pease,  
designer of the MM/1, whose company lab had plenty of Motorola and OS-9  
hard/software lying around.
It would certainly have been sold or provided as a free upgrade to  
industrial 6809 OS9 developers.  --Mike K.

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