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Marty Goodman | 1 Mar 2004 01:06
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Magnavox monitor

Hi there, Boisy!

You PROBABLY are well acquainted with this, and it PROBABLY isn't the
problem with the monitor you have, but...

OLD Magnavox moniotor (8CM series) tended to have cold solder joints on
their boards, especially those connecting the flyback transformer to the
circuit board.  If you meticulously solder-reflowed the contacts for the
flyback (and perahaps other large parts connected with the high voltage and
medium voltage circuits) it often would fix problems with those monitors
characterized by sudden onset of no picture.

It's pretty quick and easy to reflow those contacts, so it may be worth a
try.

Pity it's so hard to ship a monitor... I've a spare Sony KV1311CR that I
would like to get rid of!

But your description of your problem... with the high pitched squeal...
suggests you MAY have a dead component.  Perhpas a horizontal output
transistor, and/or something driving it.

Sadly, I have no tech data on the 1CM series.  I do have a service manual
for the 8CM series, tho.

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Neil Morrison | 1 Mar 2004 01:18

Re: Magnavox monitor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Goodman" <martygoodman@...>

> Hi there, Boisy!
...
> But your description of your problem... with the high pitched
squeal...
> suggests you MAY have a dead component.  Perhpas a horizontal
output
> transistor, and/or something driving it.

No, if the HOT was dead there'd be no whistles at all. It's gone way
off frequency, so it's either the coil or yoke assemblies, or a
driving component.

Neil

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John E. Malmberg | 1 Mar 2004 02:20
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Re: [Long] [OT] That Big Shadow Over Your Shoulder, Part 1,

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> Woke up this mornin', 'bout the break of daaayy....
> 
> ...and had to finish some thoughts. This is getting too long (my fault!),
> so I'll just put these down & be done with it & leave it back to CoCo
> topics...
> 
> MSWord is a de facto standard, but it's not a standards-body standard. And
> here is that hateful truth that none of us are really comfortable with:
> It's the former that actually matters. (But, recognizing their need for
> legitimacy, Microsoft has spent considerably more time in the past few
> years both participating in and lobbying standards bodies; case in point
> for another discussion: SOAP.)
> 
> The world is full of spurned technologies and rewritten history.

That is for sure.  I still find it interesting how many differences 
there are in the reported history of the IBM PC, and what actually 
happened.  And some of the best stuff seems to have been removed :-)

> But back to your specific comment: As a writer, I would never dream of
> handing a WordPerfect DOS document to a business round-robin discussion or
> shared edit or editor or publisher.

I think that the later versions of WordPerfect can produce documents in 
at least one Microsoft Word format.  Open Office is also supposed to be 
able to do so.

Microsoft has made the format available from them to developers, but put 
a restriction on the copy that I have that it can not be used to produce
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Theodore Evans | 1 Mar 2004 03:16
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Re: Re: [Long] [OT] That Big Shadow Over Your Shoulder, Part 1,

On Feb 29, 2004, at 3:20 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote:

> I think that the later versions of WordPerfect can produce documents 
> in at least one Microsoft Word format.  Open Office is also supposed 
> to be able to do so.

OpenOffice and StarOffice both can produce (and read) Word files.

> The main difference is that with PDF, Adobe is willing to let others 
> know how to read or generate it.  Even with that, it is does take 
> quite a bit of work to make a PDF viewer.  Adobe produced a JAVA pdf 
> viewer, but it only works with Mac, because it depends on a Mac 
> proprietary java class.
>
> So if Adobe does not produce a native viewer for a platform, xpdf is 
> about the only alternative.

Ghostscript also has PDF support.

>> And, you know, the compromises on quality have been fewer
>> than their opponents would lead us to believe. Put any other operating
>> system -- any other one -- in 95% of the world's personal computers, 
>> and
>> see if productivity and enjoyment stay even close to where they are.

If any other OS were in 95% of the computers, the support that is 
missing would be there.  I am sure that productivity and enjoyment 
would be higher not lower than with Windows.

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Dennis Bathory-Kitsz | 1 Mar 2004 03:27

Re: Re: [Long] [OT] That Big Shadow Over Your Shoulder, Part 1,

At 08:20 PM 2/29/04 -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote:
>I think that the later versions of WordPerfect can produce documents in 
>at least one Microsoft Word format.  Open Office is also supposed to be 
>able to do so.

I think my question is whether these other programs can be used for
collaboration, as businesses do with MSWord.

When I get an MSWord document as a co-author or editor, it contains the
owner and document information, the list of previous editors by initials,
attributed corrections, editorial notes, and marginal notes ('post it'
comments). It has various password protections to keep the original editing
visible as it makes the route through contributors. And probably other
features I've forgotten.

It's more than merely reading and writing the format, it's maintaining all
the contents, present and previous, that's just as important. Lose those
and my head is on the platter of my editor, just before I'm fired. :)

Dennis

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Bernie Blakeney | 1 Mar 2004 03:32
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Which editor to use?

Hi,

As I am fairly new to the OS-9 thing I was wondering if anyone could point
me at a decent text editor for this thing.  Can't get my head around 'edit'
especially as I can't seem to find any documentation on how to use it.

Thanks
Bernie

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Dean Leiber | 1 Mar 2004 03:33

CD stuff is up

It appears that Dennis (Many Thanks Dennis!) has put up all the stuff I 
sent him on his ftp site, so enjoy!

The files include: OS9UG MOTDs, Bellingham OS-9 newsletter, Delphi 
messages, various software manuals, and some magazines (Uptime (missing 
1), Metamorphosis (missing a few), osker ( have only 1 issue).

I don't have my missing issue list handy at the moment, but I'm hoping 
someone will help me in filling in the missing issues so they're all 
available. 

Also, I'm still working on various manuals so expect some more in a few 
weeks (Pascal, OS9 Dev Sys, and Multivue to name a few)

Dean

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Dennis Bathory-Kitsz | 1 Mar 2004 03:39

Re: CD stuff is up

At 06:33 PM 2/29/04 -0800, Dean Leiber wrote:
>It appears that Dennis (Many Thanks Dennis!) has put up all the stuff I 
>sent him on his ftp site

That's ftp://maltedmedia.com/coco/

:)

Dennis

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Boisy G. Pitre | 1 Mar 2004 03:44

Re: Magnavox monitor

Marty (and all the others who bothered to reply),

Thanks for taking time to help with this problem.

I was incorrect about something, and have to revise the description of 
the problem slightly.  It has been some months since I tried it to turn 
the monitor on, and I actually hooked it up a while ago.  Here's what 
actually happens:

When I press the power switch on the back of the monitor, I hear the 
high pitch wine, but as soon as I let the switch go, the whine stops.  
However, the front panel green LED (which indicates power on) NEVER 
comes on.

If I press the power switch again, it does the same thing.  As long as 
I hold the power switch down with my finger, I hear the high pitch 
squeal, but the LED does not come on.  Releasing the switch always 
causes the noise to go away.

If I recall correctly, this switch should keep the monitor on once it 
has been pressed.  This does not seem to be happening.

I've checked the fuse and it isn't burnt.  It may be that the switch 
has somehow been rendered ineffective.

I'll put a little more time in diagnosing the problem.  If I can't get 
it to work, then I'll junk it, or send it to someone who thinks they 
can fix it (and it will be theirs).

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Theodore Evans | 1 Mar 2004 04:01
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Re: Re: [Long] [OT] That Big Shadow Over Your Shoulder, Part 1,


On Feb 29, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

> At 08:20 PM 2/29/04 -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote:
>> I think that the later versions of WordPerfect can produce documents 
>> in
>> at least one Microsoft Word format.  Open Office is also supposed to 
>> be
>> able to do so.
>
> I think my question is whether these other programs can be used for
> collaboration, as businesses do with MSWord.
>
> When I get an MSWord document as a co-author or editor, it contains the
> owner and document information, the list of previous editors by 
> initials,
> attributed corrections, editorial notes, and marginal notes ('post it'
> comments). It has various password protections to keep the original 
> editing
> visible as it makes the route through contributors. And probably other
> features I've forgotten.
>
> It's more than merely reading and writing the format, it's maintaining 
> all
> the contents, present and previous, that's just as important. Lose 
> those
> and my head is on the platter of my editor, just before I'm fired. :)

OpenOffice and StarOffice support this with native formats as well as 
Word.
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