Maarten Stolte | 18 Sep 08:28 2011
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Trying to get a working kernel installed on device

Hi,

I have decided to try and make my Trendtac 700 into a small Linux mediaserver.
For some reason I also decided to try and get Lenny on to it at least,
but because I wanted to have it on the device instead of on a sd card,
I went this route:

1. install the rescue image from this url:
http://download.goldelico.com/letux-400/etch/Recovery_DebianEtchX11v4.img
2. I then started dist upgrading that to Lenny, to discover that Lenny
needs a 2.6 kernel (ofcourse)
3. Then I downloaded the latest kernel
(http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage2.6.31.3RV112),
and put it on a sd card.
4. As this booted my Lenny just fine, I decided to try and install the
kernel for real, pressing f1+fn+left shift during boot.

As you may have guessed, this let to a screen washing out in various
colours when attempting to boot normally now. Booting from SD card
still works fine.

Now my question is, how do I solve this if at all? Worst case, can I
somehow make the system boot from an SD card, or a usb stick for that
matter, by default?

cheers,

Maarten

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Ruben Viets | 18 Sep 14:09 2011
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Re: Trying to get a working kernel installed on device

Hi,
 
To install the 2.6.xx.x uImage to /dev/mtdblock1(nand), you cannot do that by press f1+fn+left shift, this will mess up because the /dev/mtd0 bootloader is not made for 2.6 kernels.
There are several way's to do/fix that
1) If you want kernel 2.6.xx.x to be installed on nand
    use an uImage 2.6.xx.x copy to fat16 sdcard partition 
    First try-out with fn+left shift if it boots ok. 
    Next is to copy uImage to the /dev/mtdblock1. Start an terminal and type cat uImage > /dev/mtdblock1
 
2) If you want to fix/restore older 2.4 kernels.
    Copy the existing 2.4 kernel (such as the one from elonex, skytone, alpha400) to fat16 sdcard partition.
    First try-out fn+left shift if it boots ok.
    Restart and Press f1+fn+left shift and this will copy the 2.4 uImage correctly to /dev/mtdblock1
 
3) For development/new package installations it is safer to boot a distro from SD card, especially if the size will be close to 1GB. 
    The 2.6.31.3RV kernel is not able to boot an distro from SD card, it can only boot from nand, limited space on nand (1G).
    Better boot lenny from sd card and use the 2.6.24.3 kernel. http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage_2.6.24.3RV101  
    This one is able to boot from SD card by keep Fn pressed.

4) default boot the kernel from SD card, can be done for 2.6.24.3 kernel by changing the kernel sources
    (arch/mips/jz4730/board-minipc.c default from /dev/mtdblock4 to /dev/mmcblk0p2) and recompile.
    This is not necessary when using one of the above three options.
    If you still want that, I can recompile the 2.6.24.3 version and put it on kwaak.
 
Grt Ruben.
 
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:28:53 +0200
> From: datadevil <at> gmail.com
> To: mipsbook-devel-CQP9ExgZy9rrZ44/DZwexQ@public.gmane.org
> Subject: [Mipsbook-devel] Trying to get a working kernel installed on device
>
> Hi,
>
> I have decided to try and make my Trendtac 700 into a small Linux mediaserver.
> For some reason I also decided to try and get Lenny on to it at least,
> but because I wanted to have it on the device instead of on a sd card,
> I went this route:
>
> 1. install the rescue image from this url:
> http://download.goldelico.com/letux-400/etch/Recovery_DebianEtchX11v4.img
> 2. I then started dist upgrading that to Lenny, to discover that Lenny
> needs a 2.6 kernel (ofcourse)
> 3. Then I downloaded the latest kernel
> (http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage2.6.31.3RV112),
> and put it on a sd card.
> 4. As this booted my Lenny just fine, I decided to try and install the
> kernel for real, pressing f1+fn+left shift during boot.
>
> As you may have guessed, this let to a screen washing out in various
> colours when attempting to boot normally now. Booting from SD card
> still works fine.
>
> Now my question is, how do I solve this if at all? Worst case, can I
> somehow make the system boot from an SD card, or a usb stick for that
> matter, by default?
>
> cheers,
>
> Maarten
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mipsbook-devel mailing list
> Mipsbook-devel-CQP9ExgZy9rrZ44/DZwexQ@public.gmane.org
> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mipsbook-devel
<div><div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br>&nbsp;<br>To install the 2.6.xx.x uImage to /dev/mtdblock1(nand), you cannot do that by press f1+fn+left shift, this will mess up because the /dev/mtd0 bootloader is not made for 2.6 kernels.<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">There are several way's to do/fix that</div>
<div dir="ltr">1) If you want kernel 2.6.xx.x&nbsp;to be installed on nand<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use&nbsp;an uImage 2.6.xx.x&nbsp;copy to fat16 sdcard&nbsp;partition&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First try-out with fn+left shift if it boots ok.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Next is to copy uImage to the /dev/mtdblock1. Start an terminal&nbsp;and type cat uImage &gt; /dev/mtdblock1</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">2) If you want to fix/restore older 2.4 kernels.</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Copy the existing 2.4 kernel (such as the one from elonex, skytone, alpha400) to fat16 sdcard partition.</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First try-out fn+left shift if it boots ok.</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Restart and Press f1+fn+left shift and this will&nbsp;copy the 2.4 uImage&nbsp;correctly to /dev/mtdblock1</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">3)&nbsp;For development/new package installations&nbsp;it is safer to boot a distro from SD&nbsp;card,&nbsp;especially if the size will be close to 1GB.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The 2.6.31.3RV kernel&nbsp;is not able to boot an distro&nbsp;from SD card, it can only boot from nand, limited space&nbsp;on nand (1G).</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Better&nbsp;boot lenny from sd card&nbsp;and use the 2.6.24.3&nbsp;kernel. <a href="http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage_2.6.24.3RV101">http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage_2.6.24.3RV101</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This one is able to boot from SD card by keep Fn pressed.</div>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<br>4) default boot the kernel from SD card, can be done for 2.6.24.3 kernel by changing the kernel sources</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(arch/mips/jz4730/board-minipc.c default from /dev/mtdblock4 to /dev/mmcblk0p2)&nbsp;and recompile.</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is not necessary when using one of the above three options. </div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you still want that, I can recompile the 2.6.24.3 version and put it on kwaak.</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">Grt Ruben.<br>&nbsp;<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">
&gt; Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:28:53 +0200<br>&gt; From: datadevil <at> gmail.com<br>&gt; To: mipsbook-devel@...<br>&gt; Subject: [Mipsbook-devel] Trying to get a working kernel installed on device<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have decided to try and make my Trendtac 700 into a small Linux mediaserver.<br>&gt; For some reason I also decided to try and get Lenny on to it at least,<br>&gt; but because I wanted to have it on the device instead of on a sd card,<br>&gt; I went this route:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 1. install the rescue image from this url:<br>&gt; http://download.goldelico.com/letux-400/etch/Recovery_DebianEtchX11v4.img<br>&gt; 2. I then started dist upgrading that to Lenny, to discover that Lenny<br>&gt; needs a 2.6 kernel (ofcourse)<br>&gt; 3. Then I downloaded the latest kernel<br>&gt; (http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage2.6.31.3RV112),<br>&gt; and put it on a sd card.<br>&gt; 4. As this booted my Lenny just fine, I decided to try and install the<br>&gt; kernel for real, pressing f1+fn+left shift during boot.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; As you may have guessed, this let to a screen washing out in various<br>&gt; colours when attempting to boot normally now. Booting from SD card<br>&gt; still works fine.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Now my question is, how do I solve this if at all? Worst case, can I<br>&gt; somehow make the system boot from an SD card, or a usb stick for that<br>&gt; matter, by default?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; cheers,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Maarten<br>&gt; <br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mipsbook-devel mailing list<br>&gt; Mipsbook-devel@...<br>&gt; http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mipsbook-devel<br>
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Ruben Viets | 18 Sep 21:07 2011
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Re: Trying to get a working kernel installed on device

Hi,
 
No problem.
 
1) Lenny's size is much more as distro's like 3MX, this will be a size(>1GB) issue when you start to install more applications on lenny.
Next to that nand yaffs2 ecc is not ok for these kernels, this can cause loss of data (especially when the number of bad nandblocks are increased).
Therefore I would advice to use SD card instead of nand.
 
If you don't bother about these issues you can use these kernels to boot from nand too. At own risk.
 
2) The kernels include cifs support, maybe udev & samba support is not correctly installed in your lenny distro.
#apt-get install udev samba.
 
3) You can add the /dev/mtdblock1 and /dev/mtd1 you're self, don't need additional modules installed.
#cd /dev
#mknod mtd1 c 90 2
#mknod mtdblock1 b 31 1
#chmod 755 mtd1
#chmod 755 mtdblock1
 
Grt Ruben.

 
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:49:10 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Mipsbook-devel] Trying to get a working kernel installed on device
> From: datadevil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> To: r_viets-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org
>
> Hi,
>
> thanks for the long explanation.
> I have the 2.6 kernel booting from the sdcard, and most looks ok, but
> I don't see the mtdblock1 device in /dev, and the kernel has no cifs
> support.
> My guess is I'm missing modules because I have not put anything else
> but the kernel file itself on the sdcard, but then again, if I would
> put them on the sdcard and then cat the uImage, I'd still be missing
> those modules right?
>
> Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying I'd better just
> run from an sdcard? If so, then I'll just do the FN trick, as the
> system won't reboot that much.
>
> Sorry for the questions, but this has me confused.
>
> Maarten
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Ruben Viets <r_viets-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > To install the 2.6.xx.x uImage to /dev/mtdblock1(nand), you cannot do that
> > by press f1+fn+left shift, this will mess up because the /dev/mtd0
> > bootloader is not made for 2.6 kernels.
> > There are several way's to do/fix that
> > 1) If you want kernel 2.6.xx.x to be installed on nand
> >     use an uImage 2.6.xx.x copy to fat16 sdcard partition
> >     First try-out with fn+left shift if it boots ok.
> >     Next is to copy uImage to the /dev/mtdblock1. Start an terminal and type
> > cat uImage > /dev/mtdblock1
> >
> > 2) If you want to fix/restore older 2.4 kernels.
> >     Copy the existing 2.4 kernel (such as the one from elonex, skytone,
> > alpha400) to fat16 sdcard partition.
> >     First try-out fn+left shift if it boots ok.
> >     Restart and Press f1+fn+left shift and this will copy the 2.4
> > uImage correctly to /dev/mtdblock1
> >
> > 3) For development/new package installations it is safer to boot a distro
> > from SD card, especially if the size will be close to 1GB.
> >     The 2.6.31.3RV kernel is not able to boot an distro from SD card, it can
> > only boot from nand, limited space on nand (1G).
> >     Better boot lenny from sd card and use the 2.6.24.3 kernel.
> > http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage_2.6.24.3RV101
> >     This one is able to boot from SD card by keep Fn pressed.
> > 4) default boot the kernel from SD card, can be done for 2.6.24.3 kernel by
> > changing the kernel sources
> >     (arch/mips/jz4730/board-minipc.c default from /dev/mtdblock4 to
> > /dev/mmcblk0p2) and recompile.
> >     This is not necessary when using one of the above three options.
> >     If you still want that, I can recompile the 2.6.24.3 version and put it
> > on kwaak.
> >
> > Grt Ruben.
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:28:53 +0200
> >> From: datadevil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> >> To: mipsbook-devel-CQP9ExgZy9rrZ44/DZwexQ@public.gmane.org
> >> Subject: [Mipsbook-devel] Trying to get a working kernel installed on
> >> device
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have decided to try and make my Trendtac 700 into a small Linux
> >> mediaserver.
> >> For some reason I also decided to try and get Lenny on to it at least,
> >> but because I wanted to have it on the device instead of on a sd card,
> >> I went this route:
> >>
> >> 1. install the rescue image from this url:
> >> http://download.goldelico.com/letux-400/etch/Recovery_DebianEtchX11v4.img
> >> 2. I then started dist upgrading that to Lenny, to discover that Lenny
> >> needs a 2.6 kernel (ofcourse)
> >> 3. Then I downloaded the latest kernel
> >>
> >> (http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage2.6.31.3RV112),
> >> and put it on a sd card.
> >> 4. As this booted my Lenny just fine, I decided to try and install the
> >> kernel for real, pressing f1+fn+left shift during boot.
> >>
> >> As you may have guessed, this let to a screen washing out in various
> >> colours when attempting to boot normally now. Booting from SD card
> >> still works fine.
> >>
> >> Now my question is, how do I solve this if at all? Worst case, can I
> >> somehow make the system boot from an SD card, or a usb stick for that
> >> matter, by default?
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Maarten
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Mipsbook-devel mailing list
> >> Mipsbook-devel-CQP9ExgZy9rrZ44/DZwexQ@public.gmane.org
> >> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mipsbook-devel
> >
<div><div dir="ltr">
Hi,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
No problem.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
1) Lenny's size&nbsp;is much more as&nbsp;distro's like 3MX, this will be a size(&gt;1GB) issue when you start to install more applications on lenny.<br>
Next to that nand yaffs2 ecc is not ok for these kernels,&nbsp;this&nbsp;can cause loss of data (especially when the number of bad nandblocks are increased).<br>
Therefore I would advice to use SD card instead of nand.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
If you don't bother about these issues&nbsp;you can&nbsp;use these kernels&nbsp;to boot from nand too. At own risk.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
2)&nbsp;The&nbsp;kernels include cifs support, maybe udev &amp; samba support&nbsp;is not correctly installed in your lenny distro. <br>
#apt-get install udev samba.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
3) You can add the /dev/mtdblock1 and /dev/mtd1 you're self, don't need additional modules installed.<br>
#cd /dev<br>
#mknod mtd1 c 90 2<br>
#mknod mtdblock1 b 31 1<br>
#chmod 755 mtd1<br>
#chmod&nbsp;755 mtdblock1<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Grt Ruben.<br><br>&nbsp;<br><div>
&gt; Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:49:10 +0200<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [Mipsbook-devel] Trying to get a working kernel installed on device<br>&gt; From: datadevil@...<br>&gt; To: r_viets@...<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; thanks for the long explanation.<br>&gt; I have the 2.6 kernel booting from the sdcard, and most looks ok, but<br>&gt; I don't see the mtdblock1 device in /dev, and the kernel has no cifs<br>&gt; support.<br>&gt; My guess is I'm missing modules because I have not put anything else<br>&gt; but the kernel file itself on the sdcard, but then again, if I would<br>&gt; put them on the sdcard and then cat the uImage, I'd still be missing<br>&gt; those modules right?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying I'd better just<br>&gt; run from an sdcard? If so, then I'll just do the FN trick, as the<br>&gt; system won't reboot that much.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Sorry for the questions, but this has me confused.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Maarten<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Ruben Viets &lt;r_viets@...&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Hi,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; To install the 2.6.xx.x uImage to /dev/mtdblock1(nand), you cannot do that<br>&gt; &gt; by press f1+fn+left shift, this will mess up because the /dev/mtd0<br>&gt; &gt; bootloader is not made for 2.6 kernels.<br>&gt; &gt; There are several way's to do/fix that<br>&gt; &gt; 1) If you want kernel 2.6.xx.x&nbsp;to be installed on nand<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use&nbsp;an uImage 2.6.xx.x&nbsp;copy to fat16 sdcard&nbsp;partition<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First try-out with fn+left shift if it boots ok.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Next is to copy uImage to the /dev/mtdblock1. Start an terminal&nbsp;and type<br>&gt; &gt; cat uImage &gt; /dev/mtdblock1<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 2) If you want to fix/restore older 2.4 kernels.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Copy the existing 2.4 kernel (such as the one from elonex, skytone,<br>&gt; &gt; alpha400) to fat16 sdcard partition.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First try-out fn+left shift if it boots ok.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Restart and Press f1+fn+left shift and this will&nbsp;copy the 2.4<br>&gt; &gt; uImage&nbsp;correctly to /dev/mtdblock1<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 3)&nbsp;For development/new package installations&nbsp;it is safer to boot a distro<br>&gt; &gt; from SD&nbsp;card,&nbsp;especially if the size will be close to 1GB.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The 2.6.31.3RV kernel&nbsp;is not able to boot an distro&nbsp;from SD card, it can<br>&gt; &gt; only boot from nand, limited space&nbsp;on nand (1G).<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Better&nbsp;boot lenny from sd card&nbsp;and use the 2.6.24.3&nbsp;kernel.<br>&gt; &gt; http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage_2.6.24.3RV101<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This one is able to boot from SD card by keep Fn pressed.<br>&gt; &gt; 4) default boot the kernel from SD card, can be done for 2.6.24.3 kernel by<br>&gt; &gt; changing the kernel sources<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(arch/mips/jz4730/board-minipc.c default from /dev/mtdblock4 to<br>&gt; &gt; /dev/mmcblk0p2)&nbsp;and recompile.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is not necessary when using one of the above three options.<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you still want that, I can recompile the 2.6.24.3 version and put it<br>&gt; &gt; on kwaak.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Grt Ruben.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:28:53 +0200<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; From: datadevil@...<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; To: mipsbook-devel@...<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: [Mipsbook-devel] Trying to get a working kernel installed on<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; device<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi,<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; I have decided to try and make my Trendtac 700 into a small Linux<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; mediaserver.<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; For some reason I also decided to try and get Lenny on to it at least,<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; but because I wanted to have it on the device instead of on a sd card,<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; I went this route:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; 1. install the rescue image from this url:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://download.goldelico.com/letux-400/etch/Recovery_DebianEtchX11v4.img<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; 2. I then started dist upgrading that to Lenny, to discover that Lenny<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; needs a 2.6 kernel (ofcourse)<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; 3. Then I downloaded the latest kernel<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; (http://projects.kwaak.net/twiki/pub/Epc700/KernelPort26Compiling/uImage2.6.31.3RV112),<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; and put it on a sd card.<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; 4. As this booted my Lenny just fine, I decided to try and install the<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; kernel for real, pressing f1+fn+left shift during boot.<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; As you may have guessed, this let to a screen washing out in various<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; colours when attempting to boot normally now. Booting from SD card<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; still works fine.<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Now my question is, how do I solve this if at all? Worst case, can I<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; somehow make the system boot from an SD card, or a usb stick for that<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; matter, by default?<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; cheers,<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Maarten<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Mipsbook-devel mailing list<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Mipsbook-devel@...<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mipsbook-devel<br>&gt; &gt;<br>
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