John Temples | 1 Feb 01:05

Re: [PIC] C Compiler

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Rolf wrote:

> Have you seen this tool, by the way:
>
> http://piclist.org/techref/microchip/language/c/stringformat.htm
>
> Can re-arrange your pointers to optimize messages where they overlap. I
> use it all the time to make space.... ;-) Also it encourages me to use
> similar messages in lots of places.

Any reasonable C compiler (C18 included) will optimize duplicate
strings and merge overlapping strings without using external tools.

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Mark Scoville | 1 Feb 01:12

Re: [EE] easiest way to create and couple noise into a circuit?

My favorite way to make lots of electical noise is to use a large motor 
contactor. The trick is to complete the circuit to the contactor with a 
loose wire and a file. Drag the loose wire across the file and the contactor 
will chatter like crazy - it's not very scientific, but it does make lots of 
EMI.

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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:31:39 -0500
Subject: [EE] easiest way to create and couple noise into a circuit?

> Most circuits have some inputs and outputs (external wires) connecting
> them to the real world. I want to create electrical noise and subject
> an
> unsuspecting PIC and its inputs to noise. 
> 
> I'd love to have a gizmo that can throw some noise into the system in
> the lab. It doesn't need to be fancy, just an effective noise-maker.
> I'm
> thinking a bank of relays with long leads to the relay coils (no coil
> suppression of course). The leads could then be wrapped around the
> inputs to the circuit. I also have in my lab a sample 120V DC motor; I
> could run that directly from rectified 120V AC, and switch rapidly
> on-off with one of the aforementioned relays...
> 
> Does anyone have a favorite way of doing a quick bench test like this
> in
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Vitaliy | 1 Feb 01:23

Re: [EE] (Truncated lines was:) Analysis of Olin's EUSB2Circuit(subcircuit R2, D3, C2, Q1)

Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> I've found out that the best option is to avoid using Outlook
> with PIClist. Now I am using Gmail under Linux/Windows.

I think it's a matter of personal choice. It's possible to set up Outlook 
and successfully use it with PICList, as I think many people on this list 
will attest. :)

I like the convenience of having everything in one place -- my work mail, my 
personal e-mail, and my mailing lists.

Vitaliy

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Jim Korman | 1 Feb 01:32
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Re: [OT]: The truth about Tinfoil helmets

Marcel duchamp wrote:
> A definitive study:
> http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
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>
>
> Abstract
> Among a fringe community of paranoids, aluminum helmets serve as the 
> protective measure of choice against invasive radio signals. We 
> <snip>
>   
What the.....My calendar says it's going to be Feb 1st, not April :-)

Jim
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John Dammeyer | 1 Feb 01:44

RE: [PIC] C Compiler

Pretty cool.  However, won't it break if the strings are longer than 256
bytes total since then they could overlap a page?  At least that used to be
a problem with the PIC16F series.

I tried this:

M_1="\nThreadSize is %s\n"
M_2="ThreadDepth is %s\n"
M_3="ThreadArea is %s\n"

Result was:

Messages
===
Optimization saved 0 characters from being duplicated

Most of my strings are literals used in printf statements

Still, it bears looking into.

Thanks.

John Dammeyer

Automation Artisans Inc.
http://www.autoartisans.com
Ph. 1 250 544 4950

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Harold Hallikainen | 1 Feb 01:51

[PIC] Works with ICD-2, but not without

Help! I've got a 24hj256gp610 project where I read portb. It works
properly when debugging with the ICD-2. When I program the chip, though,
it always reads back as zero. I set a strobe low, wait for a handshake
line to go low, then read the port. As the datasheet indicates, I'm doing
a nop after the write and before the read (and writing to the LAT instead
of the port).

So... what's the difference between debug and run?

THANKS!

Harold

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Paul Anderson | 1 Feb 02:43
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[OT] Tektronix 7D02 Manuals?

Does anyone know where I can download the manual for a 7D02 tektronix
logic analyzer?

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David VanHorn | 1 Feb 02:53

Re: [OT] Tektronix 7D02 Manuals?

On 1/31/07, Paul Anderson <wackyvorlon <at> gmail.com> wrote:
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> Does anyone know where I can download the manual for a 7D02 tektronix
> logic analyzer?

Lucky guy, you got one with probes?  :)
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Marcel duchamp | 1 Feb 03:05
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Re: [OT] Tektronix 7D02 Manuals?

Paul Anderson wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can download the manual for a 7D02 tektronix
> logic analyzer?
> 

Try here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TekScopes/

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Paul Anderson | 1 Feb 03:05
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Re: [OT] Tektronix 7D02 Manuals?

On 1/31/07, David VanHorn <dvanhorn <at> microbrix.com> wrote:
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>
> Lucky guy, you got one with probes?  :)
>
Working on that:)  Might be able to find them, I'm not sure.  What I'm
pretty sure I am missing is the personality module.  I'm not sure if
the machine can run without it.

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