http://matias.ca/laptoppro/mac/
looks good. Anyone use that?

It fits my criterion when looking for a bluetooth keyboard for my
MacBook Pro and my work Windows machine.

I am looking for something that could also be used for a Windows
Machine as well but it will be used for the MacBook 90% of the time so
it needs an Apple friendly layout. Occasionally I will use it for my
Nexus 10 Android tablet and iPad 10" retina, but rarely.

My primary criterion is that it be no larger than the 15" macbook pro
in width since it will be in a case with the MacBook Pro. It could be
slightly wider I will be getting an oversized case and I do want
separate arrow keys if possible.

I will buy two of them, one for my work Windows machine and one to
carry with my MacBook Pro.

As a side note, I type on a Dvorak keyboard but since chosing
keyboards that have Dvorak labels limit my choices I just add glow in
the dark stickers to label over my Qwerty keyboard. I would not mind a
dual-labelled keyboard, but that is not in my requirements. I want a
keyboard with a good feel and if possible separate arrow keys.

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Hello members,

Does anyone know where I can buy an IBM Selectric with a Davorak

keyboard,or a conversion kit? Please let me know,

Thanks,

Don

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Tim,
I took the liberty of copying this reply to the alt-keyboards email group. It's not that my time is so valuable, but it may take me a while to find a useful answer, if I can, and maybe somebody on the list can help you offhand.

I cannot claim credit for the right-handed layout on my website. It was produced or at least distributed by someone in the now long-inactive Dvorak International organization. I wasn't aware of the differences you encountered, but I've never really used the one-handed layouts on either Mac or PC. I can probably dig up a diagram of Dvorak's original right-hand layout, but that won't really help.

In the past, keyboard layouts on the Mac were editable by using a resource editor (ResEdit), commonly available to developers. I'm sure something like that still exists, but I don't know anything about it. I'm afraid I lost touch with the Mac's leading edge quite some time ago, and the trailing edge is slipping away.

I'll let you know if I find anything useful, and I'll forward anything that turns up from the group. If you want, you can view the alt-keyboards conversation at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/

Good luck,
Marcus
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On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Tim Prior wrote:
> Dear Mr. Brooks,
>
> I am a PC user trying to switch to Mac, and I am an amputee using the Dvorak Right-hand (DRH) keyboard layout. I found your DI Dvorak file with the help of a Mac shop person, and installed it. The trouble I'm having is that the right handed layout seems to be different from the layout I am used to in PC. Namely, the '4' is below the '1', and other differences. I'm really glad that you took the time to produce and publish this file, however I am interested in continuing to use the, as far as I can tell, original DRH layout.
>
> So, a couple questions (assuming that indeed I am seeing a difference between the layouts):
>
> Did you move keys around to improve the layout?
>
> Can I edit the file so that I can have the layout I am used to typing with? (Noting that I would also like to alter the location of the period key and a couple other punctuation keys)
>
> I would be happy to provide you more information regarding my problem, and I appreciate any time or attention you can provide, as I'm sure your time is valuable.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tim Prior

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anyone? even DIY - Terijo

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Came up on Slashdot today:

http://www.in10did.com/

Looks a lot like other recent chording keyboard designs. Also looks
awkward and slow - but it's very small. Don't think it's available
for sale yet.

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Hey,
Does anybody want my old C-64 with a Dvorak mod? It's got a switchable piggyback ROM with a Dvorak layout and DOS wedge setup. (If you want it, you probably know what that means). The other switch position enables the original ROM.

The case is really rough. You could probably swap the motherboard into a nicer case.

I've also got tape and floppy drives, books, and I think some extra C-64's. Maybe a Prom programmer, if I can find it.

Price is cost of shipping, or best offer.

This is all buried in a closet right now, not ready to ship. I'm basically scouting for takers so I know how carefully to dig.

If nobody wants it, it goes to GoodWill.

Thanks,
Marcus
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New keyboard layout:

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/digital-life/item/28334-irish-companya-s-radial-ke

Why it's going to fail (in my only semi-humble opinion):
- qwerty is easy to use because we all know where the keys are - no
relearning necessary
- qwerty is essentially rectangular - making efficient use of the
space available on a tablet/phone screen
- BeeRaider makes very poor use of space
- BeeRaider assumes you're using a single finger and working out from
the centre - so they've put less-used letters farther apart at the
outer edge ... and I don't think it's a good layout even for their
assumption
- it's faster to type with two thumbs (or fingers) - and that's what
most people want to do - and by that logic the most used keys should
be small and at the outer edge of the keyboard
- all of which means their layout is even less suited to a physical
keyboard than a phone/tablet virtual keyboard

I've been wrong before, but I've watched a lot of better designed
keyboards (including my beloved Kinesis Advantage) struggle
desperately for traction and fail, or merely carve out a niche market.
It remains interesting to watch.

--
Giles
http://www.gilesorr.com/
gilesorr <at> gmail.com

I'm intrigued by this invention:

http://enabletalk.com/abstract.html

It's great that people might be able to use it for communication with the deaf, but there are so many other uses. I'm assuming that the software can be programmed so that it recognizes the movements involved when the wearer's finger reaches for a letter, and sends the respective the character to the computer..

It might be a worthwhile keyboard replacement while on an airplane or other tight space, or while walking. Or even at a desk, moving the keyboard out of the way to handle papers or other objects.

It reminds me of closed-captioning for television. It was initially created for the deaf, but it's also become useful where hearing people want to watch TV: noisy airports, train terminals, bars and restaurants, or while someone else is sleeping in the same room.

Steven

I have two Android devices, both of which usually have a hardware keyboard
attached - not thumb keyboards, full size. The devices in question are an
Asus Transformer (the original model with keyboard dock), and a Rikomagic
mk802 (a full computer that looks like a fat USB stick). I've been
intensely frustrated that I can't use the Dvorak keyboard layout on these
devices ... until today. I finally found "External Keyboard Helper" in
"Google Play" (aka "Android Market"). It cost $2.33 Canadian, and I am
very, very happy. Both my devices now accept input in Dvorak layout -
External Keyboard Helper also includes multiple nationalities, Bepo,
Colemak, and Dvorak in LH, RH, and Programmer variants.

I'm not associated with the app in any way, but I'll continue to sing its
praises ...

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Hi I'm working on getting Initiative 1241 - Dvorak Simplified Keyboard Curriculum

What do you think ?

Please see this at:

http://dvorakdvotion.org

Thank you!

Daniel

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