* Laurie Leonard <lleonard4 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I am very unhappy with Palm, and would love to abandon them

Yeah, I've felt the same, and have been slowly migrating to other
systems. At one point, I used my treo regularly for at least 50
different things, but now it's down to about ten... of which
Shadow is only one or two.

> Does Shadow work on all the Treos?

Depends on the definition of "work". It runs great on a treo
650, but it's really slow on a 755p. Any interaction with the
main tree view is pretty laggy. So, I find myself minimizing how
much I use the main screen... using notes instead of children,
for example, or just using the memo app.

-- Scott

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Has anybody kept track of when the unresolved T3 multiple screen
refresh bug started, in terms of versions? i.e. what was the most
recent release that did not manifest it? I am seriously considering
downgrading to an earlier version of Shadow to escape the constant
irritation.
David

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i have migrated everything on my Palm to either my T-Mobile G1 or to
my Nokia n810 -- with two exceptions, one of them being Shadow Plan
(the other is SplashID).

Any chance that Shadow will be ported to one of these gadgets -- and
still sync-able with the desktop? I would be more than happy to pay
for any such upgrade.

--
bblackmoor <at> blackgate.net
2008-11-05

--- In shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com, "shawn_engelland"
<shawn.engelland <at> ...> wrote:
>
> I would be interested in any updates Ken and Griff
> (and others) may have on using Shadow (and other
> Palm apps) with the N810 and Garnet VM.

I used it for about three weeks, and eventually gave up. It seems to
work well enough on the n810, but I could never get it to sync
reliably enough to satisfy me.

--
bblackmoor <at> blackgate.net
2008-11-05

--- In shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com, "bblackmoor" <bblackmoor <at> ...>
wrote:
>
> i have migrated everything on my Palm to either my T-Mobile G1 or to
> my Nokia n810 -- with two exceptions, one of them being Shadow Plan
> (the other is SplashID).
>
> Any chance that Shadow will be ported to one of these gadgets -- and
> still sync-able with the desktop? I would be more than happy to pay
> for any such upgrade.
>
> --
> bblackmoor <at> ...
> 2008-11-05
>

You could just run full blown Debian on the N810 ...
... and then just use Shadow desktop!

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=233121#post233121

Ken

--- In shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com, "bblackmoor" <bblackmoor <at> ...>
wrote:
>
> i have migrated everything on my Palm to either my T-Mobile G1 or to
> my Nokia n810 -- with two exceptions, one of them being Shadow Plan
> (the other is SplashID).
>
> Any chance that Shadow will be ported to one of these gadgets -- and
> still sync-able with the desktop? I would be more than happy to pay
> for any such upgrade.
>
> --
> bblackmoor <at> ...
> 2008-11-05
>

On a separate note ... Can you run Garnet VM on the G1?

Signed,
Very tempted to get a new toy (aka Ken)

Hi Jeff,

Is there any progress on solving the T|X multiple refresh bug?

I'd like to offer my help - if you need someone to test, debug, etc.
Or to provide you with data files that exhibit the bug, if you can't
reproduce it on your own.

Have you been able to see it happen on your new T|X?

This is the one bug that would leave a LOT of people happy if you
could patch it somehow...

Thanks!

If only Palm woudl fix the root bug that causes it :/

hmmrf. I should just hack a timer to prevent from doing redraws
within a half second of each other or something. I wonder.... thats lame,
but would it work? :)

jeff

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# Is there any progress on solving the T|X multiple refresh bug?
#
# I'd like to offer my help - if you need someone to test, debug, etc.
# Or to provide you with data files that exhibit the bug, if you can't
# reproduce it on your own.
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# Have you been able to see it happen on your new T|X?
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# could patch it somehow...
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# Thanks!
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--
If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war.

Eh eh we both know Palm isn't going to retouch this code EVER.

If you check back on this thread:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/messages/24393?threaded=1&m=e&var=1&tidx=1

... see my original post where I describe exactly what the three
redraws are doing; and then post #24573 below for a list of things
that do/don't flicker.

There are three paints, but only the last one is the correct. It has
to do with the DIA, going up and down and causing Shadow to
re-evaluate whether a scrollbar is needed, etc.

I have a clue for you: it seems that there is a strange behaviour as
far as the DIA is concerned on the T|X. If an app changes DIA state
programatically, the DIA goes down BUT somewhere in the bowels of the
system Palm OS still thinks it is up. This means that the ONLY way to
put the DIA 100% down is by tapping the status bar button. All other
methods seem to leave it 99% down, and this might explain why you're
getting inconsistent events.

Anyway these problems only show in Shadow, so they should be solvable.

I suggest checking the points in your code where you test for DIA
position (are they giving you accurate info?) or change DIA state
(either deliberately or by showing a form which is 320x320 and forces
the DIA up).

Then if you can see where the problem lies you could do a "lame hack"
like

on [event]:
if (im_on_a_TX) just_ignore_it;

... and it just might work...

Let me tell you we really would appreciate any efforts you can make to
nail this nasty problem. Thanks!

had shadow plan years ago and wanted to reconnect with my palm centro.
had desktop and palm version. yet lost reg key when computer crashed.
how can I find out my information

Mary Hoover

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