I've just received a new computer with Vista. I've tried to install
Shadow Plan 4.3.1 and the installer tells me,

"Catapult Install Expert could not detect a compatible Palm Desktop
software configuration and will cancel installation."

When I tried to install "by hand" I get a pop up that says,

"No Desktop users exist."

And, simultaneously, another pop up that says it can't
find "Shadow.prc" (which was the file I just clicked on to get the
message.)

I've looked all over the website and this forum for a solution. Can
anyone help?

Thank you.

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Martin,

This is a Palm Desktop issue, not a Shadow issue. There was
compatibility issues between Vista and the Palm install tool when
Vista first came out. Make sure you upgrade to the compatible version
of Palm Desktop.

http://www.palm.com/us/support/windowsvista/

Hope this helps,

Dean

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM, rmartin822 <rebecca <at> rebecca-a-martin.com> wrote:
> I've just received a new computer with Vista. I've tried to install
> Shadow Plan 4.3.1 and the installer tells me,
>
> "Catapult Install Expert could not detect a compatible Palm Desktop
> software configuration and will cancel installation."
>
> When I tried to install "by hand" I get a pop up that says,
>
> "No Desktop users exist."
>
> And, simultaneously, another pop up that says it can't
> find "Shadow.prc" (which was the file I just clicked on to get the
> message.)
>
> I've looked all over the website and this forum for a solution. Can
> anyone help?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Having been very happy with Shadow as-is for quite a while, I find
myself with a wish of growing intensity for the wishlist. I have a
"today" list of current tasks organized under headings (headings, such
as "Calls", "Projects", etc are level one parents, tasks are level 2).
For convenient focus on task execution I apply a filter to show
unchecked priority one items only and then hide parents to get a flat
list of due tasks. I remove the filter and show the parents in order
to work on the list, upgrade priorities etc. If the "hide parents"
instruction could be made available as a possible component within a
filter, then the four steps/eight taps (drop menu, apply filter, drop
menu, hide parents, drop menu, remove filter, drop menu, show parents)
could be halved. Is this feasible?
David

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Peggy Hanton wrote:

# I¹ve given up on Shadow for now. Everything seems OK on the desktop.
# Everything shows up just as I¹d like to see it in all 15 branches of my
# outline.
#
# On my Palm, I can easily filter to ³Today and past², or whatever it is, and
# the items I¹d like to see show up. However, they are a jumbled mess! I
# can¹t sort by category at all. Sorting on Priority works only within each
# of the 15 branches ‹ so I see Branch 1 with categories 1 ­ 5, then Branch 2
# with categories 1-5. The tags are the same way. I can¹t get all the tags
# to sort together. Even the title sort works only within each branch. I was
# much better off with the Palm built in to-dos!

By definition things have to sort within branch. Consider..

1 a
1.1 a
2 b
2.1 a

Are you saying you'd like it to sort to..

1 a
1.1 a
2.1 a
2 b

That doesn't make sense. 2.1 belongs 'within' 2; it only sorts
within the other things within 2. 2's children do not sort against 1's
children.. ie: they are the same 'indent level', but they ultimately
belong to their own parent.

Thats not a bug; its how every single outliner in existance works
:)

Now, it would be nice sometimes to flatten the view and sort
independant of hierarchy; I thought about it, but the problem there is..
items _do_ belong to their parents; flattening and resorting is all well
and good on a very temporary basis, but you cannot 'save' like that. And
doing it on a tmeporary basis led to chaos when people then started
dragging and dropping ot cut and pasting.. how do you know who owns what
then?

So I'm not sure what you mean. it has to work how it is.

You can speicfy sorts by level, but theres a reason you can also
sort on a per-child basis.

jeff

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, mnjjunk wrote:

# First, I would like to echo the request that was posted back in 2006
# by dmachak, "Re: [shadow-discuss] Categories in Desktop". It would
# be really nice if the desktop could filter the list of outlines by the
# categories that the handheld understands.

yeah, twould be nice; not likely right now I'm afraid.

Let us pray that Palm Inc recovers from their spin, and amazes the
world again, so the "Palm economy" can work again.

# Second, while Ctrl-F4 to close an open outline is certainly
# convenient, and I finally did figure out the close tab icon, it would
# be nice to have a close tab mechanism connected to the tab itself.
# Either a right mouse menu like Excel or an X button like Firefox.
# While I make no claim to being typical, that was where I first tried
# to look for the functionality.

Hmm, if I recall right, you can right click on the tabs (at the
bototm say) and there should be a close option. At least I coded that in
at some point, and I think long ago.

# Even without these its a great tool. Thanks.

Glad you like it :)

jeff

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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, rmartin822 wrote:

# I've just received a new computer with Vista. I've tried to install
# Shadow Plan 4.3.1 and the installer tells me,
#
# "Catapult Install Expert could not detect a compatible Palm Desktop
# software configuration and will cancel installation."
#
# When I tried to install "by hand" I get a pop up that says,
#
# "No Desktop users exist."
#
# And, simultaneously, another pop up that says it can't
# find "Shadow.prc" (which was the file I just clicked on to get the
# message.)
#
# I've looked all over the website and this forum for a solution. Can
# anyone help?

MS did some weird stuff with Vista that prevents applications from
seeing some of their own data sometimes, or more to point.. some other
applications data (like Palm Desktop), so they broke a few things.
Historically I relied on the Catapult system for installers.

I worked a few weeks back on a new installer that should work
nicely on Vista, but I didn't have a chance to finalize it.

(I've got something on the go right now that has a very nasty
timeline, so I'm tied up with it until a few weeks from now, sadly.)

If you would bug me in a couple weeks, I will see about knocking
out the installer (at least an alpha for you to fiddle with), and then we
can see how it goes from there.

I also have some fixes for T|X users I'd like to bundle up.

Sadly my Palm-side has been on lower priority for awhile, as
theres just not much coming in the door from that side anymore :(

jeff

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On Thursday 04 September 2008 02:12:59 pm Jeff Mitchell wrote:
> Let us pray that Palm Inc recovers from their spin, and amazes the
> world again, so the "Palm economy" can work again.

The economy of failure has failed! We need to make it work again!

Andrew

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Jeff,

I found the perfect solution to my problem ‹ and it was incredibly simple.

Just organize everything as I had done in Shadow, link the tasks to
DateBook6, and they all show up just the way I¹d like.
It¹s perfect!

I wish I had known about Shadow years ago!

From: Jeff Mitchell <skeezix <at> skeleton.org>
Reply-To: <shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:10:47 -0400 (EDT)
To: <shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Re: Does Shadow work with Leopard?

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Peggy Hanton wrote:

# I¹ve given up on Shadow for now. Everything seems OK on the desktop.
# Everything shows up just as I¹d like to see it in all 15 branches of my
# outline.
#
# On my Palm, I can easily filter to ³Today and past², or whatever it is,
and
# the items I¹d like to see show up. However, they are a jumbled mess! I
# can¹t sort by category at all. Sorting on Priority works only within each
# of the 15 branches ‹ so I see Branch 1 with categories 1 ­ 5, then Branch
2
# with categories 1-5. The tags are the same way. I can¹t get all the
tags
# to sort together. Even the title sort works only within each branch. I
was
# much better off with the Palm built in to-dos!

By definition things have to sort within branch. Consider..

1 a
1.1 a
2 b
2.1 a

Are you saying you'd like it to sort to..

1 a
1.1 a
2.1 a
2 b

That doesn't make sense. 2.1 belongs 'within' 2; it only sorts
within the other things within 2. 2's children do not sort against 1's
children.. ie: they are the same 'indent level', but they ultimately
belong to their own parent.

Thats not a bug; its how every single outliner in existance works
:)

Now, it would be nice sometimes to flatten the view and sort
independant of hierarchy; I thought about it, but the problem there is..
items _do_ belong to their parents; flattening and resorting is all well
and good on a very temporary basis, but you cannot 'save' like that. And
doing it on a tmeporary basis led to chaos when people then started
dragging and dropping ot cut and pasting.. how do you know who owns what
then?

So I'm not sure what you mean. it has to work how it is.

You can speicfy sorts by level, but theres a reason you can also
sort on a per-child basis.

jeff

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Jeff--
Do you have any plans to develop Shadow for the iPhone? I can't find
anything even close that's available. You have so many features that
Omnifocus does not have.

Thanks,
Laurie

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Ditto here.
I would like to move to an iPhone or iPodTouch when my Palm needs to be
replaced.
Things seems more flexible than OmniFocus, but Shadow with DateBook6 does
everything I need perfectly.

So far, iPhone has no capability for cut and paste, which is limiting.
The iPhone uses a totally different operating system, right? That means
building something from the ground up ...

From: Laurie Leonard <lleonard4 <at> gmail.com>
Reply-To: <shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:30:45 -0400
To: <shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [shadow-discuss] iPhone and Shadow

Jeff--
Do you have any plans to develop Shadow for the iPhone? I can't find
anything even close that's available. You have so many features that
Omnifocus does not have.

Thanks,
Laurie

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