On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Vincent Keunen wrote:
# When are we going to have ShadP on the iPhone?... Easier said than
# done, I guess... I suppose there would be a lot of rewrite, but I'm
# seriously considering the iPhone and the app I would miss most is ShadP
# (I use it for gtd - it's therefore vital for me). This tells you ho
# much value I attribute to ShadP - it's just an excellent piece of
I'm betting the lads over at StyleTap are working on a port of
I am watching the iPhone keenly; when it first hit the streets,
the Palm OS developers were universally annoyed at the closed nature of it
all. Apple pushign for everyone to develop web apps was a shocker -- since
data coverage is both very expensive and AT&T has spotty coverage anyway,
its just a bad idea. Here in Canada, a data plan will run you $40 or $50 a
month for unlimited data.. ouch! So web applications simply aren't
(Let us hope the new Google phone platform, and the iPhone, will
strongarm the telcos into halfway sensible data plan price structures.)
I would love to make a web based Shadow (the only real sensible
cross platform environment anymore is the browser), but not likely
feasible just yet. This leaves native code. (And again, insert my rant
about _every darned gadget needing total rewrites_. Too much pain for
So here I and other Palm OS devs look to the early months of 2008
with great interest, when Apple is supposed to release an SDK. Things to
watch for -- given Apple has based everything on OSX lately, and OSX is
Unix based, I'm right at home; lets hope they keep the development
environments as good as they have with OSX. But let us hope they don't
strangle the sales point.
ie: Palm dev worked because Palm Company didn't control the
applications; anyone could build an app, and sell it; Palm's cut was by
selling gadgets. Nowadays, mobile developers get strangles since the
telcos want absolute control -- this is why ringtones cost several bucks a
shot, when you can buy a high quality mp3 for a fraction of the price.
Telcos want the cash, and they want absolurte control. For your usual
phone, you can get only a dozen applications the telco permits, and the
developes of those apps are lucky to make 5% on each sale. For Palm, it
was a total free for all until the 'ESDs' (stores like PalmGear) took
over; they caused a lot of pain, but at least it was free market.
It is widely expected Apple will try to control the application
market.. buy and download and sync applications via iTunes and the store.
It makes sense even -- Apple gadget users go to iTMS all the time, so why
not keep everything in one convenient place?
The question becomes then -- will Apple require devs to jump
through hoops; pay for certification and logos, pay for testing, pay a
large chunk for the privielege to run on the device (digital signing,
So it very mcuh depends on that -- will Apple strangle or
encourage? We'll have to see.
At least they're a smart bunch, and often do cool things, so lets
keep our fingers crossed.
The day the SDK comes out, if it looks good, I'm getting an iPod
Touch to dev for (should be same as iPhone; we can't get iPhones here,
unless we hax0r them.. which I might do, too.)
If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war.