Hrm, so this means we have to live with no sorting? That won't work
for me. I sort my todo's by context...nice having them all grouped
together. I also hide completed todos.

Maybe I'm mis-understanding something here but you are suggesting then
that DB6 will just let the todos fall where they may?

Jeff, there's no way around this? Is DB6 or more likely the data
manager changing the unique ids on sort?!

Is this due to Shadow's still using the legacy PIM database?

--- In shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com, "Anita" <ajreiki <at> ...> wrote:
>

> I finally found the answer. You have to remove the ToDo sorting >from
> the Startup view in DB6. In my case I already have a Startup view.
> So I tap on the diamond for views, tap Change, tap Startup, uncheck
> Sort Todo, and the linking now works.
>
> If you don't have a Startup view, then set up the view the way you
> want it to be when you start DB6. After that tap on the diamond and
> tap on New. Name it Startup with a capital 'S'. Uncheck the >default
> Sort on ToDo.
>
> I think you will then find that the Shadow link will go to the right
> spot. You will not be able to set the various types of ToDo sort, >but
> the ToDos won't get moved around so that Shadow can't find them.
>
> Anita
>

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On 12/1/06, Griff <lists <at> thegriff.net> wrote:
>
> Hrm, so this means we have to live with no sorting? That won't work
> for me. I sort my todo's by context...nice having them all grouped
> together. I also hide completed todos.
>
> Maybe I'm mis-understanding something here but you are suggesting then
> that DB6 will just let the todos fall where they may?
>
> Jeff, there's no way around this? Is DB6 or more likely the data
> manager changing the unique ids on sort?!
>
> Is this due to Shadow's still using the legacy PIM database?
>
>
Hey Griff,
Both Shadow and DB6 are using the legacy Todo PIM DB. The problem is that
when Shadow creates the link its pointing to a particular row location in
the TodoDB. When Shadow follows the link, its opening DateBk6 with a
parameter of which position in the Todo database it wants to look at. If
DateBk6 is set to sort the Todo database when it opens, then the database
sorting will occur _after_ its opened, and the pointer passed by Shadow will
now be pointing to the wrong location. The link in Shadow is still pointing
to the correct record, DateBk is just _displaying_ the incorrect one when
you first open it (at least I'm 90% sure that's how it works). To test it
out, link out a new Todo in Shadow, follow the link to DateBk and see the
wrong record. Then go back to Shadow and tap the link again (w/o making any
changes in either app). You should now be displaying the correct record.

There are two ways around this (or maybe just ways to decrease the pain).
The easiest way is to disable the Todo Sorting on your Startup view (or
whatever view DateBk is set to start in). I'm like you, however, and rely
heavily on the nice Todo sorting in DateBk. So you can disable the sorting
in the Startup view and enable it in your "TodoView", which can be invoked
with one tap if your starting view uses the Today screen.

If you still don't want to disable Todo Sorting in your Startup View, then
every time DateBk is opened by Shadow with the wrong item displayed,
manually force it to sort the database again. The easiest way (I think) to
do this is to open up the Todo Sorting preferences panel and hit OK (no
changes necessary). This triggers a resort of the Todo database (similarly
you can reload your Startup Saved View or any other Saved View with Todo
Sorting enabled to reinvoke sorting).

Anyway, I'm not totally 100% on all this, but hopefully some of this will
help you out!

Good luck,
Bob O'Malley

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I've read the documentation regarding the various ways to export - my
ultimate aim being to have a word document and I'm okay with this part
of the process.

However, I can't figure out how to include notes when exporting from
desktop version 4.3.9.

Is this at all possible?

Emily

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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, William Franklin wrote:

# Ziplock Freezer bags.
#
# You don't have to be neat, just stuff the cable in one, but they still
# store neatly because the bag keeps them from getting tangled with some
# other cables. Different size bags for different size cables.
#
# And, the freezer bags have a white section to write on, so you can write
# down what kind of cable and what it is for.

We are all humbled by your genius :) (Should've occurred to all of
us, seeing as electronics shops include cables in essentially ziplock
baggies, right?) Brilliant :)

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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Griff wrote:

# Hrm, so this means we have to live with no sorting? That won't work
# for me. I sort my todo's by context...nice having them all grouped
# together. I also hide completed todos.
#
# Maybe I'm mis-understanding something here but you are suggesting then
# that DB6 will just let the todos fall where they may?
#
# Jeff, there's no way around this? Is DB6 or more likely the data
# manager changing the unique ids on sort?!
#
# Is this due to Shadow's still using the legacy PIM database?

It could be, or perhaps CESD is doing some tricky stuff in the
DBs; ie: Perhaps the old PIMS are screwy in this way (we know they're
screw in lots of ways :), or perhaps something is breaking their
association so that the old PIM unique ID is referring to the wrong new
PIM, or perhaps CESD is sorting by editting in place. It is definately
odd.

Bug me about new PIMs in a couple weeks; right now I'm just
sorting out the mac and linux build environments and pollishing up a few
things, and then will get back on the wagon and get 4.5 out the door ..
maybe for xmas, or sometime in jan; then a few weeks off for the arriving
family member, and then the big stuff :)

jeff

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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, juci1960 wrote:

# I've read the documentation regarding the various ways to export - my
# ultimate aim being to have a word document and I'm okay with this part
# of the process.
#
# However, I can't figure out how to include notes when exporting from
# desktop version 4.3.9.
#
# Is this at all possible?

Is notes turned on in your 'list view' on the desktop? (add
another column for it if you removed it..) I forget if that version
includes those column choices in the prints and exports.. it might be
making some assumptions.

You could always slip together a Export Template as well, which
would do it for sure.

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> Is notes turned on in your 'list view' on the desktop? (add
> another column for it if you removed it..) I forget if that version
> includes those column choices in the prints and exports.. it might be
> making some assumptions.

Yes, it is but notes still don't show when I do a 'save as' .txt.

> You could always slip together a Export Template as well, which
> would do it for sure.

I receive this message when I go to Template Export 'No Template
Descriptions are found. Create them in the Templates Subdirectory off of
(sp) the Shadow Desktop executables Directory.'

What does this mean? I've no idea what I'm supposed to do.

Thanks for your help,
Emily

--- In shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <skeezix <at> ...>
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, juci1960 wrote:
>
> # I've read the documentation regarding the various ways to export -
my
> # ultimate aim being to have a word document and I'm okay with this
part
> # of the process.
> #
> # However, I can't figure out how to include notes when exporting from
> # desktop version 4.3.9.
> #
> # Is this at all possible?

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On 12/02/2006 08:17 AM juci1960 wrote:
>
>> You could always slip together a Export Template as well, which
>> would do it for sure.
>>
>
> I receive this message when I go to Template Export 'No Template
> Descriptions are found. Create them in the Templates Subdirectory off of
> (sp) the Shadow Desktop executables Directory.'
>
> What does this mean? I've no idea what I'm supposed to do.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Emily

This may help. Have a look at it and then come back if you have
questions. I haven't done a template in a while, but I'll try to give
you a hand if you need it.

http://codejedi.com/shadowplan/wiki/doku.php?id=sp_desktop_template_reference

Anita

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Thanks for the info Anita. Demystify lol? Hmmmm...I've created the
directory within the exe folder as directed, so now that message
certainly doesn't appear. I copy pasted the sample on that page as
a 'sample' but obviously this is not as easy as indicated and a lot
more time will need to be taken to understand the purpose/what the
end result looks like etc. I guess the problem is that I have no idea
what the outcome of 'export template' is.
At the moment, I'm exporting to memo via handheld and then
transferring to word doc. Ugly, but its doing the job short term.
Long term, this is a learning curve obviously.
Wondering whether there is anywhere there are screen shots of all
this?
Thanks for your help Anita,
Emily

--- In shadow-discuss <at> yahoogroups.com, Anita Lewis <ajreiki <at> ...>
wrote:
> This may help. Have a look at it and then come back if you have
> questions. I haven't done a template in a while, but I'll try to
give
> you a hand if you need it.
>
> http://codejedi.com/shadowplan/wiki/doku.php?
id=sp_desktop_template_reference
>
> Anita

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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, juci1960 wrote:

# Thanks for the info Anita. Demystify lol? Hmmmm...I've created the
# directory within the exe folder as directed, so now that message
# certainly doesn't appear. I copy pasted the sample on that page as
# a 'sample' but obviously this is not as easy as indicated and a lot
# more time will need to be taken to understand the purpose/what the
# end result looks like etc. I guess the problem is that I have no idea
# what the outcome of 'export template' is.
# At the moment, I'm exporting to memo via handheld and then
# transferring to word doc. Ugly, but its doing the job short term.
# Long term, this is a learning curve obviously.
# Wondering whether there is anywhere there are screen shots of all
# this?

Did you try exporting as HTML, and then loading that into Word?
The html export does include the notes, but I'm not sure if Word would
load it up and make it look halfway attractive or useful. (I do not use
Word myself, I'm afraid.)

jeff

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