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Jeff Mitchell | 1 Nov 2006 20:44

Mac OSX .. will need testers soon :) (And Linux, and Windows)


 	I know I've been more quiet than all of us like for a bit, but 
getting the machines rolling again ;)

 	This posting is about OSX though, to be specific.

 	Right now I'm debating my build environment for maximum effect; 
I've always maintained a policy of being behind the curve since that tends 
to support others behind the curve, and those on the front generally have 
backwards compatibility. I build on Mac OSX 10.2.x still, and it all tends 
to work nicely for those up to 10.3 and usually even 10.4 as far as I'm 
aware.

 	I do know a few people have had problems on 10.4, though I do not 
know if they're sporting PowerPC or Intel Macs in those cases; running a 
PPC build on the Intel arch machines works fine (inside of the Rosetta 
layer), though that in turn introduces its own oddities. I've got a G4 PPC 
machine and no intention of updating to an Intel Mac anytime soon, but 
10.4 on PPC should still be able to produce a Universal binary when the 
time comes.

 	I'm tempted right now to get a good solid 10.2 built release out, 
then go whole hog onto OSX 10.4 (since 10.5 is coming soon).. but I'm also 
tempted to go straight to 10.4 right now, and provide a Universal binary 
(application that includes builds for both PPC and Intel in one 
application.) That introduces some issues, but removes others, and at 
least lets me play on a more modern setup since 10.2 is years old and 
tends to annoy me a bit :) More to point, if I build a 10.2 now, then 
switcheroo to 10.4, immediately someone will find a problem on 10.2 .. so 
perhaps its best to just cut ahead and be done-with.
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Jeff Mitchell | 2 Nov 2006 15:13

Re: is there a sample shadow plan that i can use

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, murthysuresh wrote:

# I am trying to start using shadow. i use agendus. i want to look at a 
# sample plan. can someone direct me to the right plance. It can be a use 
# case, sample template, screenshot etc. it will be useful

	The main website has some screenshots.

	I used to have a collection of some handy lists, but due to how 
people use the application (customized, data that pertains to their life, 
etc) I found most of them weren't really useful for people to download. 
ie: Folks store CD collection lists, tasks for their work, chores to be 
done, you name it.. but all fairly personalized.

		jeff

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Jeff Mitchell | 2 Nov 2006 15:09

Re: Sooner or later....

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, br4978 wrote:

# ...we'll see the next version of Shadow Plan.  Hey, Jeff - care to break 
# your tradition and give us a hint of when the next release will emerge?  
# "Coming Soon" has been posted to Codejedi.com since June 30, and we'll 
# be pushing into 2007 shortly...

	This month, if life doesn't throw me any (more) benders :)

	Just working on the OSX and Linux builds; the existing Windows and 
Palm are fairly much 'it', though I might toss a few more things in since 
so many folks have had the beta there already for so long.

		jeff

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jeff_stautz | 2 Nov 2006 15:37
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Re: Mac OSX .. will need testers soon :) (And Linux, and Windows)

Hi Jeff--

>  	(Of course, the question then arises.. do applications build on 
> 10.4 tend to work on 10.2 and 10.3, or do they only work forward and
not 
> backward?)

If you're building the app using XCode, you can specify which versions
of the OS you're compiling for so that you can maintain backward
compatibility. 

If I remember right, when building a Universal Binary in XCode, you
can specify different deployment target OSs and different compilers
for the PPC and Intel "versions" (which are then rolled into one binary).

Check out
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/cross_development/index.html
for details. And also take a look at 
http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?UniversalBinariesAndJaguar and
http://mcdevzone.com/2005/11/08/universal-builds-for-ppc-x86 .

Hope that helps... Good luck!

 
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Lyle Johnson | 2 Nov 2006 15:12

Re: Mac OSX .. will need testers soon :) (And Linux, and Windows)

Jeff,

The latest releases of most popular Mac OS X applications (read: the ones that *I* use) tend 
to support only Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4. I think it's admirable that you are concerned about 
those users still running 10.2, but I don't think anyone would fault you for upgrading your 
build system if there are obvious advantages for doing that.

I'll be glad to help out with testing, although I admittedly don't use the desktop UI very much. 
I'll go sign up for that now.

Lyle

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>  	I know I've been more quiet than all of us like for a bit, but 
> getting the machines rolling again ;)
> 
>  	This posting is about OSX though, to be specific...

 
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B. Cook | 3 Nov 2006 17:50
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Just some newbie questions..

Hello,

I have recently come across your app by way needing something like 
'thought manager' for my mac.

When I saw shadowplan I was quite impressed by it, not to mention that 
when I saw it had palm keyboard support <grin>

Anyway, I'm trying to understand what I should and should not be able to 
do with this as an unregistered user.  So that I can show it to the 
powers that be, and get approval to purchase it.. anyway..

I have a TX, and an ibook, and an XP box and a Win2k box.  I have 
installed shadowplan on my palm, and desktop app on each of the Windows 
PCs and the ibook.  My databases/lists do not show up in the desktop app 
unless I choose Raw, (which is fine), but I can't seem to make changes 
on the windows desktop app, and have them show in the palm app.

I've tried 'Request upload on next Sync' and it doesn't seem to act the 
right way..

Also how does the license work, I saw that it was tied to the Palm 
Desktop User.. so I'm just wanting to understand how if how I would like 
to use it, would be valid.

I want the Desktop on my mac, xp box and win2k box, I may have the app 
open on my palm, and I may have one of the desktops open at the same 
time.  I would like the desktop (whatever platform) and the palm to be 
in sync; understanding that the desktop of that box can only be as up to 
date as the last sync..
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skarabrae | 4 Nov 2006 05:39

Re: Digest Number 2249

Greetings all:

Our house uses an eMac (PPC) with OS 10.3.9. And we're stuck at the
level for now, because my wife uses PageMaker, and we can't afford for
her to upgrade to InDesign yet. {<sigh> If we'd bought InDesignm, we
wouldn't be able to afford the hardware to run it.}

Sooo, whatever you do, Jeff, please make it work perfectly for me, and
to heck with everyone else! :-)

And just for fun, we still use the LCIII at least weekly. For simple
text processing, Nisus Writer 5.1.3 on System 7.6 is as solid as
Shadow. Coal is getting hard to come by, though, to keep the
computer's steam pressure up.

Cheers,
Neil Slater
in windy, cold Regina

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 	I know I've been more quiet than all of us like for a bit, but 
getting the machines rolling again ;)

 	This posting is about OSX though, to be specific.

 	Right now I'm debating my build environment for maximum effect; 
I've always maintained a policy of being behind the curve since that
tends 
to support others behind the curve, and those on the front generally have
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Morgan Young | 5 Nov 2006 13:05
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OT, and Crossposted about Wifi

I am now having problems accessing anything to do with my wifi.  my T|X 
locks up when trying to even turn on the Wifi radio.  I have hard reset and 
reinstalled without success, and also tried to restore from a backup from 
July without success.

I am becoming kind of desperate to come up with a solution, and any help 
would be appreciated.   to me, the wifi, is one of the more important 
functions of my Palm T|X.  as such, I aplogize for the cross posting.

 
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murthysuresh | 5 Nov 2006 14:36
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starter questions

HI
I use palm agendus and have categories
for eg. Trading Stocks has tasks like 
1. scan daily
2. mark trading entry and exit conditoins
3. setup alerts
......

I want to use shadow to setup projects etc which could in turn reuse 
some of the todo tasks
for eg.

Project-> Make 1000 dollars
1. mark trading entry and exit conditions(reuse from earlir todo)
2. Buy(New todo)
3. Sell(New todo)

How do i do it with shadow. After reading all the reviews, i just 
bought shadow but cant get it to work like i want to.

 
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richie_sails | 7 Nov 2006 01:51
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Register desktop without Palm device

I am a registered user of Shadow Plan + Desktop, but no longer have a
Palm device. Is there any way to register the desktop only software
without the Palm, such as generating the keyfile from my Shadow Plan
+ Desktop registration information? 

Is there a particular filename and text file format to create this? My
email request to support has gone unnoticed. (I checked my spam
filter too).

 
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