martin trotter | 16 Mar 2011 00:09

[HS] Shops not disappearing

 

Lo,

I have say a bag of jelly babies that are on offer at Sainsburys supermarket for 71p.
Later in the year Morrisons supermarket has jelly babies for 74p so i add that in and its ticked in Details > Stores.

If i uncheck the sainsburys price it still stays in the NEED view ad the cheapest when i would expect it to disappear as its unchecked.

I want to keep the older price even though its not available anymore ()offer) for reference but i cant seem to do that.

Is this a bug ie unchecking doesnt seem to change anything

Running on a Palm TX

thanks for your time

Martin N
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Greg Gaub | 16 Mar 2011 02:21
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Re: [HS] Shops not disappearing

 

martin trotter wrote:

>I have say a bag of jelly babies that are on offer at Sainsburys supermarket for 71p.
>Later in the year Morrisons supermarket has jelly babies for 74p so i add that in and its ticked in Details > Stores.
>If i uncheck the sainsburys price it still stays in the NEED view ad the cheapest when i would expect it to disappear as its unchecked.
>I want to keep the older price even though its not available anymore ()offer) for reference but i cant seem to do that.
>
>
First question is, what Store list are you viewing when you say you're
seeing it when you expect it to be gone?
If you're looking at the Sainsburys store list, then you're right, it
should not be showing in that list.
If you're looking at the All Stores list, then it should appear in the
list because that view shows all needed items from all stores.
If you're viewing the Morrisons store list, then it should appear
because the item is still assigned to that store.
The All Stores list will always show the lowest price for an item, and
the specific stores will show the price with a little mark of some kind
if it's not the lowest price to remind you that there's a lower price
somewhere else.
I just tested this and it works ok. I'm using a Palm, HandyShopper build
6228.

-Greg

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martin trotter | 16 Mar 2011 04:20

Re: [HS] Shops not disappearing

 

Lo,

> martin trotter wrote:
>
> >I have say a bag of jelly babies that are on offer at Sainsburys supermarket for 71p.
> >Later in the year Morrisons supermarket has jelly babies for 74p so i add that in and its ticked in Details > Stores.
> >If i uncheck the sainsburys price it still stays in the NEED view ad the cheapest when i would expect it to disappear as its unchecked.
> >I want to keep the older price even though its not available anymore ()offer) for reference but i cant seem to do that.
> >
> >
> First question is, what Store list are you viewing when you say >you're
> seeing it when you expect it to be gone?
> If you're looking at the Sainsburys store list, then you're right, >it
> should not be showing in that list.

No not that one.

> If you're looking at the All Stores list, then it should appear in >the
> list because that view shows all needed items from all stores.

Yes that is the one; the jelly babies show which is what i would expect
but in all needed it is still showing the price from Sainsburys even though it is unchecked in details>>>stores.

> If you're viewing the Morrisons store list, then it should appear
> because the item is still assigned to that store.
> The All Stores list will always show the lowest price for an item,

Even though i have unchecked it?

>and
> the specific stores will show the price with a little mark of some >kind
> if it's not the lowest price to remind you that there's a lower price
> somewhere else.
> I just tested this and it works ok. I'm using a Palm, HandyShopper >build
> 6228.

Doesnt seem right to me but i think in my original email it wasnt explained in enough detail. Hopefully it is clearer now and you understand what i am trying to do.

thanks for your time

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Greg Gaub | 16 Mar 2011 05:29
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Re: [HS] Shops not disappearing

 

martin trotter wrote:

>Yes that is the one; the jelly babies show which is what i would expect
>but in all needed it is still showing the price from Sainsburys even though it is unchecked in details>>>stores.
>
>
>>If you're viewing the Morrisons store list, then it should appear
>>because the item is still assigned to that store.
>>The All Stores list will always show the lowest price for an item,
>>
>>
>Even though i have unchecked it?
>
>
Well, let's say in 6 months, you're looking at your list and only saw
the Morrisons price shown, because you unchecked the other store long
ago, but forgot. You might think that Morrisons has the lowest price and
keep getting it there.
Either way, someone is not going to like the behavior, so I doubt it
will change.
Just know that when viewing All Stores, the price shown will always be
the lowest entered price, regardless of the store being checked for that
item for that store or not.
Knowing this, you can either go with it, or change how you use the app.

-Greg

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dboicu812 | 20 Mar 2011 08:21

[HS] Idea for 'Note' view: add ability to "Insert Current Date"

 

When I'm browsing the weekly grocery flyers or noting prices in-store and I:
- see a price change to an existing item in my HandyShopper database, or
- come across an amazing 'record-low' sale price
- see a package size change to an existing item

..I'll add a comment in the item's "Note" tab so that I can keep a historical record of the price change, 'super' sale price, or package size change. And I add today's date. examples:
- "Walmart: reg $4.99 sale $1.00, March 20 2011"
- "Costco: was $9.79, went up to $12.99, March 20 2011"
- "Was 750g, now 700g; March 20 2011"

It's a bit slow to type out a date on a touchscreen PDA such as my Axim X3i, so years ago i found a button-remapping utility (for WM2003) that allowed me to auto-insert the current system date via a single tap of a hardbutton. VERY NICE!

A while back, I had to hard-reset my PDA and so lost all my apps, and I haven't been able to find the same remapping utility anywhere or any other that has an 'insert date' function. I've been entering the date manually every time. But that got me thinking-- surely an 'insert current date' feature would be a great addition to HandyShopper itself!

Ideas for possible methods of implementation:
-a) add it as an icon at the bottom of the window, before or after the up/down arrows or 'Cancel' text.
-b) add it to the 'Edit' context menu
-c) add it to a 'press-and-hold' context menu in the text-area of the "Note" tab. (context menu doesn't currently exist, so it'd have to be added).

I assume 'b' would be easiest, but that (and 'c')would require 2 presses - 1 to open the menu and 1 more to execute the action. Therefore, I feel 'a' would be the best solution.

Chris, and others, I'd be interested to hear you thoughts on the idea.

Thanks for reading!

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dboicu812 | 22 Mar 2011 05:33

[HS] Weird Edit menu text bug [screencap included]

 

Device: Axim X3i (WM2003)
HS Version: v3.2 build 6516

Bug Description:
When in 'Item View' (the page with [Item | Note | Stores] tabs), if I click 'Edit' at the bottom of the screen, in the menu that pops up, the item below 'Delete Note...' appears as non-readable square characters.

Screencap:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4179/hsmenutxt1.jpg

Further Observations:
Clicking the squares-text results in a "Delete this item?" prompt, indicating that the expected text in the menu should be "Delete item".

I thought the problem might be that my device's language setting is set to 'English (Canada)' rather than English (United States), but no, changing to that, or any other English regional variant does not product readable text for that menu item.

Checking the HS .exe file's menu tree in ResourceHacker, I did not spot see anything unusual with the text for 'Delete item'. Therefore, I'm stumped.

Chris, any ideas?
Does anyone else see this on their device?

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chrisant_wa | 22 Mar 2011 21:49

[HS] Re: Weird Edit menu text bug [screencap included]

 

Probably a quirk due to some difference in how the old style toolbar menus are set up versus the WM5.0 and higher menus are set up.

Not something I'd post an update for. Maybe if some other important issue comes along then I might look into a fix.

--- In handyshopper-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, "dboicu812" <yahoogroups <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Device: Axim X3i (WM2003)
> HS Version: v3.2 build 6516
>
> Bug Description:
> When in 'Item View' (the page with [Item | Note | Stores] tabs), if I click 'Edit' at the bottom of the screen, in the menu that pops up, the item below 'Delete Note...' appears as non-readable square characters.
>
> Screencap:
> http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4179/hsmenutxt1.jpg
>
> Further Observations:
> Clicking the squares-text results in a "Delete this item?" prompt, indicating that the expected text in the menu should be "Delete item".
>
> I thought the problem might be that my device's language setting is set to 'English (Canada)' rather than English (United States), but no, changing to that, or any other English regional variant does not product readable text for that menu item.
>
> Checking the HS .exe file's menu tree in ResourceHacker, I did not spot see anything unusual with the text for 'Delete item'. Therefore, I'm stumped.
>
> Chris, any ideas?
> Does anyone else see this on their device?
>

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