eco_bogdan | 3 Jan 2010 09:41
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Re: I will probably close the Megawiki yahoo group, any final comments about it?

 


--- In GtD_Palm <at> yahoogroups.com, "Don" <dv5m42 <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Hello. I have written to Jerry Hedden, the author of Megawiki for the
Palm, to see what he is up to these days, since Megawiki has not been
updated since OS4.
> Since there hasn't been any new wiki type programs for a very long
time, and almost all discussions of that type of program resides here
anyway, I am thinking to remove the Megawiki yahoo group. The Megawiki
Wiki site disappeared a while ago (seems like John Kershaw has abandoned
it), and no one has posted to the Yahoo group since 2007.
>
> Since the Megawiki group is such a large resource, albeit very
outdated, I wanted to check if there was any reason for its continuance,
since we still have well over a thousand members, albeit inactive.
>
O, I just join this group :) First of all, there are Wiki engines for
PalmOS 5. I use WikiZ (It works fine at my Treo 680).
May be new Palm Pre give new breath to palms.
In the other hand - there are many resources with information about
organization technicues in palm.
My voice is get to live this group.

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Donna Holmes | 27 Jan 2010 14:52
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Get back to me pls

Hi, 

I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick trip to the UK and I lost a bag which
contains my passport and credit cards. I know this may sound odd, but it all happened very fast. I've been to
the US embassy and they're willing to help me fly without my passport but I just have to pay for my ticket and
settle some bills. Right now I'm out of cash plus i can't access my bank without my credit card over here. I
have contacted them but they need more verification. I'm just gonna have to plead with you to lend me some
funds right now? I'll pay back as soon as I get home. I need to get on the next available flight home.

Please reply as soon as you get this message so I can forward the details as to where to send the funds. You can
reach me via the hotel's desk phone if you can, the numbers are,  011447024065511 or 011447024064567 You
can also email me via my yahoomail, as I can easily access it here donna_ancypa_holmes@...
I await your response...

Thanks
Donna Holmes

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Stan Michael | 27 Jan 2010 14:53
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Re: Get back to me pls

 

Very typical scam.  Do not respond!

Stan

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--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Donna Holmes <donna.ancypa.holmes <at> gmail.com> wrote:

From: Donna Holmes <donna.ancypa.holmes <at> gmail.com>
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Get back to me pls
To:
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 6:52 AM

Hi,

I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick trip to the UK and I lost a bag which contains my passport and credit cards. I know this may sound odd, but it all happened very fast. I've been to the US embassy and they're willing to help me fly without my passport but I just have to pay for my ticket and settle some bills. Right now I'm out of cash plus i can't access my bank without my credit card over here. I have contacted them but they need more verification. I'm just gonna have to plead with you to lend me some funds right now? I'll pay back as soon as I get home. I need to get on the next available flight home.

Please reply as soon as you get this message so I can forward the details as to where to send the funds. You can reach me via the hotel's desk phone if you can, the numbers are,  011447024065511 or 011447024064567 You can also email me via my yahoomail, as I can easily access it here donna_ancypa_holmes <at> ymail.com
I await your response...

Thanks
Donna Holmes

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Paulo Abreu | 27 Jan 2010 16:11
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Re: Get back to me pls

 

ha ha ha ha !!!!
Yeah, right.

2010/1/27 Donna Holmes <donna.ancypa.holmes <at> gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick trip to the UK and I lost a bag which contains my passport and credit cards. I know this may sound odd, but it all happened very fast. I've been to the US embassy and they're willing to help me fly without my passport but I just have to pay for my ticket and settle some bills. Right now I'm out of cash plus i can't access my bank without my credit card over here. I have contacted them but they need more verification. I'm just gonna have to plead with you to lend me some funds right now? I'll pay back as soon as I get home. I need to get on the next available flight home.
>
> Please reply as soon as you get this message so I can forward the details as to where to send the funds. You can reach me via the hotel's desk phone if you can, the numbers are,  011447024065511 or 011447024064567 You can also email me via my yahoomail, as I can easily access it here donna_ancypa_holmes <at> ymail.com
> I await your response...
>
> Thanks
> Donna Holmes
>
>
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Brenda | 28 Jan 2010 07:18

Re: Get back to me pls

 

This user has been banned.

Strange... this person has been a member since 2004.

Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52:05 AM, you wrote:

> I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick trip to
> the UK and I lost a bag which contains my passport and credit cards.

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Anne O'Hearn | 28 Jan 2010 21:47
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Re: Get back to me pls

 

Interesting. I've seen this message before, the spammers glommed
onto address books of the senders, who were completely unaware that
an email like this had been sent out ostensibly from them.

I've received this same message from applicants to our residency program,
but actually their valid email addresses were hijacked to send out the spam (Yes, this
has happened several times in the last 3 years). When I contacted the "sender", they
were shocked and apologetic that this email had seemed to come from them. (Why
would they be asking for money from their possibly future medical training program?)

Please check with the user before banning them, I'd bet dollars to donuts
that this was not intentional.

Anne O, Program Coordinator
Dept of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Albert Einstein Medical Center
Philadelphia, PA

1d. Re: Get back to me pls
Posted by: "Brenda" brenda <at> brendagann.com brendag4
Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:27 pm (PST)

This user has been banned.

Strange... this person has been a member since 2004.

Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52:05 AM, you wrote:

> I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick trip to
> the UK and I lost a bag which contains my passport and credit cards.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

This message is intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of these documents.

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Luke Turnbull | 28 Jan 2010 22:09
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Re: Get back to me pls

 

I've seen a similar thing on another group recently. The genuine person
has had their email account compromised and used. In the other
instance, it was a very well known person within a professional body and
obviously not genuine.

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Paulo Abreu | 29 Jan 2010 01:05
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Re: Re: Get back to me pls

 

Viruses and alike can do this.

2010/1/28, Luke Turnbull <luke <at> luke-turnbull.com>:
> I've seen a similar thing on another group recently. The genuine person
> has had their email account compromised and used. In the other
> instance, it was a very well known person within a professional body and
> obviously not genuine.
>

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Tom Baker | 30 Jan 2010 14:20
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Re: Re: Get back to me pls

Anne O wrote:
>
> Please check with the user before banning them, I'd bet dollars to donuts
> that this was not intentional.

Agreed with that -- for one thing, it is really easy to "spoof", that is,
send an email message and make it look like it came from someone else.  For
something that is supposed to be from the Yahoo server, collecting all our
addresses would make that possible as well.

Also, there have been relevant hack attacks later.  This article says Yahoo
may have been hacked, and Gmail admits it was (and Donna Holmes, and me too,
are gmail users:

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-01-14/business/17828129_1_google-s-e-mail-service-google-s-chief-legal-officer-adobe-yahoo

(Gmail has taken the step of running through https secure sockets all the
time now, so I feel comfortable to be still using them.)

The Yahoo attack would have been earlier this month.  Note that, if it was
Yahoo that was compromised, then *everyone on GtD may have been compromised*,
not just Ms. Holmes.

     * * * * *

Actually, I don't think it is bad to immediately ban the user, as long as
they get notified in a separate email and then steps can be taken to address
the situation.  But please don't leave them in the dark, send them some
notification, and please don't make the assumption that the GtD member sent
the spam.

I would suggest, as one form of "self-policing", that a person who starts a
new thread should get a copy of it sent to them; for instance, in this case,
Donna Holmes herself would have gotten an email, supposedly from herself,
that she had not posted. (I don't know if this already happens.)  It may be
a setting in the Yahoo Groups setup. But I know some maillist servers were
set up to send the message to everyone *except* the person in the From line.

Tom

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Anne O'Hearn <ohearna@...> wrote:

>
>
> Interesting. I've seen this message before, the spammers glommed
> onto address books of the senders, who were completely unaware that
> an email like this had been sent out ostensibly from them.
>
> I've received this same message from applicants to our residency program,
> but actually their valid email addresses were hijacked to send out the spam
> (Yes, this
> has happened several times in the last 3 years). When I contacted the
> "sender", they
> were shocked and apologetic that this email had seemed to come from them.
> (Why
> would they be asking for money from their possibly future medical training
> program?)
>
> Please check with the user before banning them, I'd bet dollars to donuts
> that this was not intentional.
>
> Anne O, Program Coordinator
> Dept of Obstetrics and Gynecology
> Albert Einstein Medical Center
> Philadelphia, PA
>
> 1d. Re: Get back to me pls
> Posted by: "Brenda" brenda@... <brenda%40brendagann.com>brendag4
> Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:27 pm (PST)
>
> This user has been banned.
>
> Strange... this person has been a member since 2004.
>
> Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52:05 AM, you wrote:
>
> > I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick
> trip to
> > the UK and I lost a bag which contains my passport and credit cards.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> This message is intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is
> addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential,
> the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If you are not the
> intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to
> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
> copying, or distribution of this information is strictly prohibited. If you
> have received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately to
> arrange for return or destruction of these documents.
>  
>

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Stan Michael | 31 Jan 2010 00:53
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Re: Re: Get back to me pls

 

Plus, if they get banned, they will miss out on everything we've been talking about this month!  :-D

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--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Tom Baker <tombaker17 <at> gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom Baker <tombaker17 <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GtD_Palm] Re: Get back to me pls
To: GtD_Palm <at> yahoogroups.com
Cc: brenda <at> brendagann.com, ohearna <at> einstein.edu, donna.ancypa.holmes <at> gmail.com
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 6:20 AM

Anne O wrote:
>
> Please check with the user before banning them, I'd bet dollars to donuts
> that this was not intentional.

Agreed with that -- for one thing, it is really easy to "spoof", that is,
send an email message and make it look like it came from someone else.  For
something that is supposed to be from the Yahoo server, collecting all our
addresses would make that possible as well.

Also, there have been relevant hack attacks later.  This article says Yahoo
may have been hacked, and Gmail admits it was (and Donna Holmes, and me too,
are gmail users:

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-01-14/business/17828129_1_google-s-e-mail-service-google-s-chief-legal-officer-adobe-yahoo

(Gmail has taken the step of running through https secure sockets all the
time now, so I feel comfortable to be still using them.)

The Yahoo attack would have been earlier this month.  Note that, if it was
Yahoo that was compromised, then *everyone on GtD may have been compromised*,
not just Ms. Holmes.

     * * * * *

Actually, I don't think it is bad to immediately ban the user, as long as
they get notified in a separate email and then steps can be taken to address
the situation.  But please don't leave them in the dark, send them some
notification, and please don't make the assumption that the GtD member sent
the spam.

I would suggest, as one form of "self-policing", that a person who starts a
new thread should get a copy of it sent to them; for instance, in this case,
Donna Holmes herself would have gotten an email, supposedly from herself,
that she had not posted. (I don't know if this already happens.)  It may be
a setting in the Yahoo Groups setup. But I know some maillist servers were
set up to send the message to everyone *except* the person in the From line.

Tom

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Anne O'Hearn <ohearna <at> einstein.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Interesting. I've seen this message before, the spammers glommed
> onto address books of the senders, who were completely unaware that
> an email like this had been sent out ostensibly from them.
>
> I've received this same message from applicants to our residency program,
> but actually their valid email addresses were hijacked to send out the spam
> (Yes, this
> has happened several times in the last 3 years). When I contacted the
> "sender", they
> were shocked and apologetic that this email had seemed to come from them.
> (Why
> would they be asking for money from their possibly future medical training
> program?)
>
> Please check with the user before banning them, I'd bet dollars to donuts
> that this was not intentional.
>
> Anne O, Program Coordinator
> Dept of Obstetrics and Gynecology
> Albert Einstein Medical Center
> Philadelphia, PA
>
> 1d. Re: Get back to me pls
> Posted by: "Brenda" brenda <at> brendagann.com <brenda%40brendagann.com>brendag4
> Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:27 pm (PST)
>
> This user has been banned.
>
> Strange... this person has been a member since 2004.
>
> Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52:05 AM, you wrote:
>
> > I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now but I made a quick
> trip to
> > the UK and I lost a bag which contains my passport and credit cards.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> This message is intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is
> addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential,
> the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If you are not the
> intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to
> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure,
> copying, or distribution of this information is strictly prohibited. If you
> have received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately to
> arrange for return or destruction of these documents.

>

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