klaymendk | 1 Apr 10:10 2008
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Re: Palm /computer future

--- "Catherine McFarland" <catherine.mcfarland <at> ...> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt <wmacorig <at> ...> wrote:
> > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > It has also the Access platform [...]
> Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> eeepc?

Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been a
part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and then
re-merged in various configurations.

Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS". More
specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more modern
linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP). Incidentally,
this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian, both as a company
and operating system.

Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications: Linux
apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I think),
and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of linux devices
ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference designs" out there
but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia, Openmoko, Linux
computer, or Eee.

Learn more at:
http://www.access-company.com/home.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform

Regards,
Klaymen

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klaymendk | 1 Apr 10:29 2008
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Re: Developing a custom GTD Palm app

Hi all,
this is just another small progress report, so you don't mistake the
radio silence as a sign that I've wandered off in another direction. I
know that some of you (Mike) have been wondering what's up.

It's been four months since my last update, and the gtd.g-b.dk site
seems very stale. I apologize for that; I haven't been keeping the
site up to date with what I've been doing (which, to be fair, hasn't
been all that much either...). I shall post an update and a new sample
download "soon".

Okay, so progress:
* Categories are now rock solid and look exactly like the built in
Categories, only better ... there are less limits and the dialogs
support full-screen (DIA) size.
* The context-centric Next Actions list is nearing something
functional, but it's still very limited.
* There is support for the 5-way nav wherever it makes sense (which is
in a lot of places). It's my intention to make the app as
"one-handedly useable" as possible. Also, mapping the app to a
hardbutton allows you to cycle through the main screens with repeated
hardbutton presses (similar to the built-in PIMs).
* Still no way to delete actions...
* Still no way to view/edit action details (dates, notes)...
* There's just a single and noncritical bug.
* The outline is still not working. Internally, the data is actually
linked as an outline, but I just have no way to show it.

I'm still very much "into" this project, and personally can't wait to
have it done, or at the very least in a useful state. But, for the
record, at the same time I see more and more signs of the Palm OS
nearing the end of its useful life. Also, I am truly intrigued by the
Openmoko project. We'll see what the future brings.

Cheers,
KlaymenDK

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Catherine McFarland | 2 Apr 21:16 2008
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Re: Re: Palm /computer future

Klayman,

Thanks so much for your efforts. I'm not really an OS person and didn't
realize there was so much complexity behind the linux platforms. From my
reading on the Access site, it seemed to me that the Access Linus Platform
ran on a specific version of Linux which was different that the version
installed on the eeepc. But with your information I was able to get further
info and I think it will still work.

Thanks again,

Catherine

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:10 AM, klaymendk
<jan+yahoo <at> g-b.dk<jan%2Byahoo <at> g-b.dk>>
wrote:

> --- "Catherine McFarland" <catherine.mcfarland <at> ...> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt <wmacorig <at> ...> wrote:
> > > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > > It has also the Access platform [...]
> > Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> > something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> > device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> > eeepc?
>
> Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been a
> part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
> hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and then
> re-merged in various configurations.
>
> Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS". More
> specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more modern
> linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP). Incidentally,
> this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian, both as a company
> and operating system.
>
> Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications: Linux
> apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I think),
> and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of linux devices
> ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference designs" out there
> but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia, Openmoko, Linux
> computer, or Eee.
>
> Learn more at:
> http://www.access-company.com/home.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform
>
>

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rivera.ivan | 2 Apr 23:18 2008
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Re: Re: Palm /computer future

Hello.

Let me share this news with you:

http://blog.treonauts.com/2008/04/an-apple-in-you.html?utm_source=tnemail&utm_campaign=email&utm_medium=daily

Any comments?

On 4/2/08, Catherine McFarland <catherine.mcfarland <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Klayman,
>
> Thanks so much for your efforts. I'm not really an OS person and didn't
> realize there was so much complexity behind the linux platforms. From my
> reading on the Access site, it seemed to me that the Access Linus Platform
> ran on a specific version of Linux which was different that the version
> installed on the eeepc. But with your information I was able to get further
> info and I think it will still work.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Catherine
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:10 AM, klaymendk
> <jan+yahoo <at> g-b.dk<jan%2Byahoo <at> g-b.dk>>
> wrote:
>
> > --- "Catherine McFarland" <catherine.mcfarland <at> ...> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt <wmacorig <at> ...> wrote:
> > > > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > > > It has also the Access platform [...]
> > > Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> > > something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> > > device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> > > eeepc?
> >
> > Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been a
> > part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
> > hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and then
> > re-merged in various configurations.
> >
> > Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS". More
> > specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more modern
> > linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP). Incidentally,
> > this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian, both as a company
> > and operating system.
> >
> > Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications: Linux
> > apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I think),
> > and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of linux devices
> > ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference designs" out there
> > but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia, Openmoko, Linux
> > computer, or Eee.
> >
> > Learn more at:
> > http://www.access-company.com/home.html
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Lavaplay | 3 Apr 02:17 2008
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Re: Controlling the PDA from the PC


----- Original Message -----
From: David A. Desrosiers
To: GtD_Palm <at> yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [GtD_Palm] Controlling the PDA from the PC

> Since I use supermemo almost everyday this programme would be very
> useful to create new flashcards. I have searched the archives in
> vain. Do you know which piece of software is this and where can I
> get it? and does it what it says in the box??

I think what you seek is called KeyLink:

http://www.mobilityware.com/KeyLink/KeyLinkProduct.htm

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klaymendk | 3 Apr 09:08 2008
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Re: Palm /computer future

--- "Catherine McFarland" <catherine.mcfarland <at> ...> wrote:
> Klayman,
> Thanks so much for your efforts. I'm not really an OS person and
> didn't realize there was so much complexity behind the linux
> platforms. But with your information I was able to get further
> info and I think it will still work.
I'm so glad to be of service! I may not have the answer you seek, but
if I can help get you started in the right direction, I've helped just
the same.

:o) Klaymen

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Steven J. Aves | 3 Apr 12:51 2008
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Re: Palm and PPC Differences?

--- In GtD_Palm <at> yahoogroups.com, Nico <holvoetn <at> ...> wrote:
This is my position too. Whether it be Palm OS or Windoze I've found
over the years that eventually the core purpose of the app has been
achieved and updates become eye candy. Sometimes the updates cause
more problems than they're worth.

A concept that seems foreign to some computer / handheld users is "it
works, that's good enough."

Steve

> What is the problem with using applications not being updated for
so long
> when they still do what you want them to do ?
> Those apps need to get things done as easy as possible, they are
not for
> being looked at ;-)
>
> Greetz,
> Nico.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Paul C | 3 Apr 19:54 2008

Re: Palm /computer future

--- In GtD_Palm <at> yahoogroups.com, "klaymendk" <jan+yahoo <at> ...> wrote:
>
> --- "Catherine McFarland" <catherine.mcfarland <at> > wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt <wmacorig <at> > wrote:
> > > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > > It has also the Access platform [...]
> > Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> > something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> > device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> > eeepc?
>
> Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been
> a part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
> hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and
> then re-merged in various configurations.
>
> Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS".
> More specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more
> modern linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP).
> Incidentally, this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian,
> both as a company and operating system.
>
> Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications:
> Linux apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I
> think), and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of
> linux devices ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference
> designs" out there but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia,
> Openmoko, Linux computer, or Eee.
>
> Learn more at:
> http://www.access-company.com/home.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform
>
>
> Regards,
> Klaymen
>

That's a little misleading, Palm has publicly stated more than once it
will not be using ALP, and is working on its own OS. See:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2254698,00.asp

Paul

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Paul C | 3 Apr 20:00 2008

Re: How to sync ToDo's with an online service?

--- In GtD_Palm <at> yahoogroups.com, "Leonardo Garcia" <liberleo <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm asking if anyone know a way to mantain the tasks (not the
> calendar) syncronized with an online service like rtm, google, airset,
> etc., I've tested goosync and airset, both offers a calendar sync, but
> nothing to mantain the tasks. And the tasks is the core of my GTD
> implementation using the original built-in palm apps.
>
> Every sugestion will be welcome.
>
> Thanks
>

Plaxo will sync tasks, notes, contacts, calendar, etc. but
unfortunately I don't know of a PalmOS client for Plaxo. I'm using it
indirectly through Outlook (i.e. Plaxo syncs all my Outlook apps
together, along with Google Calendar).

Paul

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Fernando Barajas | 4 Apr 08:20 2008
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Re: Re: How to sync ToDo's with an online service?

BTW, Goosync has announced task sync for their premium version

http://www.goosync.com/

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