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Bro. Craig Beeman | 14 Dec 15:37

Datebk on iPhone now possible?


http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/12/14/rebuild-palm-os-apps-for-iphone-with-styletap-ios-wrapper-sdk/

Could this b our long awaited answer?

Bro. Craig

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Marcia Sue Clever | 16 Dec 18:34
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Re: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

I just read the article...Thanks! I still do not hold out hope. The developer of DateBook has held firm and
fast that he will NOT develop for the iPhone or iPad under ANY circumstance. I'd love him to reconsider, I
ask every 6-12 months, but  the answer has been a consistent NO.

Sent from Marcia Sue Clever MD iPhone

On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:37, "Bro. Craig Beeman" <BroCraig@...> wrote:

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> http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/12/14/rebuild-palm-os-apps-for-iphone-with-styletap-ios-wrapper-sdk/
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> Could this b our long awaited answer?
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> Bro. Craig
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> This was sent from my MacBook Pro.
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goldwings | 16 Dec 18:42

Re: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

I have had the same response from him. There is a absolute no on developing 
datebook for the iPhone or iPad. This is in a very large way due to Apple 
restrictions.

Apple does not allow you to develop an application that competes with their 
own and this includes their very crappy calendar.

I no longer use my palm although I still have it on my table and I recharge 
the batteries when they get low but I am 99.9999999% on a iPhone now. The 
only thing I look at my palm for is to look at what week of the year it is.

David Sawyer
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>I just read the article...Thanks! I still do not hold out hope. The 
>developer of DateBook has held firm and fast that he will NOT develop for 
>the iPhone or iPad under ANY circumstance. I'd love him to reconsider, I 
>ask every 6-12 months, but  the answer has been a consistent NO.
>
> Sent from Marcia Sue Clever MD iPhone
>
> On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:37, "Bro. Craig Beeman" <BroCraig@...> 
> wrote:
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Sandy Sawyer | 16 Dec 19:53

RE: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

Be sure to continue to enter important dates in your Palm because iPhone does not search back farther than
about a year. It will, at least, give you a good data base.

Datebk still does so many things so much easier than iPhone that I still try to keep it up to date and charged.  I
also have an extra T/X in storage that I bought as a backup when I found out they were going to stop making Palm pdas.

I also miss the writing capabilities and the editable dictionary that completed words and phrases that I
had added.  Also the ability to edit, copy and paste so easily.  

As you can tell, I really miss using it full time.

Sandy

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I have had the same response from him. There is a absolute no on developing 
datebook for the iPhone or iPad. This is in a very large way due to Apple 
restrictions.

Apple does not allow you to develop an application that competes with their
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Moshe Feder | 16 Dec 20:00
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Re: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:42 PM, "goldwings"
<goldwings@...> wrote:

> I have had the same response from him. There is a absolute no on developing 
> datebook for the iPhone or iPad. This is in a very large way due to Apple 
> restrictions.
> 
> Apple does not allow you to develop an application that competes with their 
> own and this includes their very crappy calendar.
> 

I share your frustration that CESD feels he and Apple could never achieve a modus vivendi. Since I love my
iPad, but still miss DateBk, I too have written to him directly, asking him to reconsider his decision or to
work with an established Mac/iOS developer to port DateBk and Pimlical to those platforms. 

It will truly be a shame if CESD sticks to his decision, both for those of us who have appreciated his software
designs, and for the good cause his work supports, which will miss the potential funding that could be
extracted from a universe of iOS users that is far larger than the Palm platform ever achieved.

However, your allegation that Apple always prohibits development of apps that compete with their own is
mistaken. A quick visit to the App Store will reveal numerous competitors to Apple's default camera and
music player apps, for example. As for apps with different kinds of calendar functions, a simple search on
the term "calendar" results in 3,188 hits for the iPhone and 991 for the iPad. Many of these aren't relevant
to what we'd want, but plenty are. Indeed, members of this mailing list have often discussed such apps as
Pocket Informant here. PI is aimed at the same uses as DateBk and is undeniably a direct (and superior)
competitor to Apple's Calendar app. That's why I'm convinced that there's no insurmountable reason
there couldn't be an iOS version of DateBk.

Moshe
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Sandy Sawyer | 16 Dec 20:04

RE: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

WebIs, (Pocket Informant) tells me that they are in a constant struggle with
Apple.  I use PI but it has conflict problems that they keep trying to work
out.

Sandy

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On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:42 PM, "goldwings" <goldwings@...
<mailto:goldwings%40davesgoldwing.com> > wrote:

> I have had the same response from him. There is a absolute no on
developing 
> datebook for the iPhone or iPad. This is in a very large way due to Apple 
> restrictions.
> 
> Apple does not allow you to develop an application that competes with
their 
> own and this includes their very crappy calendar.
>
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Moshe Feder | 16 Dec 20:32
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On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Sandy Sawyer wrote:

> WebIs, (Pocket Informant) tells me that they are in a constant struggle with
> Apple. I use PI but it has conflict problems that they keep trying to work
> out.

Although I don't use the app, I hope they succeed. It would be interesting to know more about what the issues are.

Whatever the problems, it hasn't kept them from reaching version 2.02 in their iPhone version and 1.68 in
their iPad version. Nor has it prevented the app from being, to quote their own copy, "#4 in sales for all
mobile apps for several years running." If competition were really the root issue on Apple's side, I don't
think that could have happened.

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Sandy Sawyer | 16 Dec 20:50

RE: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

I agree, it isn't about competition, it's about the architecture
restrictions of the Apple devices and the parameters that Apple sets for
their own OS that create conflicts.  The newest update, OS 5, has caused
some issues so far.

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On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Sandy Sawyer wrote:

> WebIs, (Pocket Informant) tells me that they are in a constant struggle
with
> Apple. I use PI but it has conflict problems that they keep trying to work
> out.

Although I don't use the app, I hope they succeed. It would be interesting
to know more about what the issues are.

Whatever the problems, it hasn't kept them from reaching version 2.02 in
their iPhone version and 1.68 in their iPad version. Nor has it prevented
the app from being, to quote their own copy, "#4 in sales for all mobile
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Martin N | 16 Dec 21:58
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RE: Datebk on iPhone now possible?

Lo,

At 18:53 16/12/2011, you wrote:
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>Be sure to continue to enter important dates in your Palm because 
>iPhone does not search back farther than about a year. It will, at 
>least, give you a good data base.
>
>Datebk still does so many things so much easier than iPhone that I 
>still try to keep it up to date and charged. I also have an extra 
>T/X in storage that I bought as a backup when I found out they were 
>going to stop making Palm pdas.

Yeah i bought a second TX for datebk6 and handyshopper.

I carry both the TX and my Pre3 smartphone.

Martin N

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Voytek | 16 Dec 22:39
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On Sat, December 17, 2011 4:42 am, goldwings wrote:

> Apple does not allow you to develop an application that competes with
> their own and this includes their very crappy calendar.

wasn't it more to do with allowing direct access to internal database ????
and, lack lack of APIs ????

> I no longer use my palm although I still have it on my table and I
> recharge the batteries when they get low but I am 99.9999999% on a iPhone
> now. The only thing I look at my palm for is to look at what week of the
> year it is.

even though I now have Android mobile, and, Android tablet, I still use
Palm, primarily for DateBk

email I mainly use Android, though, server searching on Snapper is still
NOT available on Android (I think ?)

out of curiousness, I installed PI (as it was available on Amazon) (but
haven't really looked beyond covers as yet)

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